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Zhukov

Banned
Dec 6, 2017
2,641
Hang on... what?

Who the fuck needs to be good at their hobbies?

I mean, if you are good then hooray, but nothing bad is going to happen if your oil paintings suck or whatever.

PS. My writing was self-indulgent rubbish and my drawings were mediocre at best.
 

Treasure Silvergun

Self-requested ban
Banned
Dec 4, 2017
2,206
Social media has certainly amplified this. There's always someone better than you at something. Problem is, back in the day, truly exceptional people were either famous, or they'd never interfere with your life. Nowadays, every John Doe who's really good at something is on FB or YT. You will be compared to them.

And because everyone can be compared to so many others, we get the creeping feeling that we're never enough. And this can influence your social life and relationships. With so many people to choose from and at a touch's distance on your phone, why would anyone choose you if you're not the best? Only 20 years ago people were much happier to settle. Not anymore. Every age feels like high school, you're constantly scrutinized, weighted, compared, judged. The "alphas" are noisier than ever.
 

RulkezX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,342
I guess I'm still guilty of this though getting less so as I get older.

I put off learning guitar for years because I thought I was too old but bought one a couple of years ago and self taught through YT and the internet. I'm good enough to play songs well enough that it makes me happy and that's enough.

OTOH I want a mountain bike as the region in live in has some of the best MB trails in Scotland and even more just within driving distance but have held off for ages because cycling has become the refuge of elitist bores rocking £5000 worth of gear and sleeping in Team Sky gear. There's almost an expectation that you have to have expensive kit to even enter the sport
 
Oct 28, 2017
605
I experienced this on the internet in artist circles before the current ubiquity of the modern kind of social media and it caused me to stop drawing for almost a decade. Woe to think of how intense it is now.

There was such a backlash against kids who were overly sensitive and would scream IT'S JUST MY STYLE in response to reasonable critique. But that was also seen as someone making an "excuse to be bad at art". That was the subtext under the mockery.

No one thought about how all those hours spent making fun of "bad art" and "bad artists" and their "excuses to be bad at art" on webcomic hosting sites or DeviantArt would have a collateral effect on me.

It made me not want to say "yeah I'm not good at this and I'm not really in it to get better", because, among my peers who were in it to get better, that would mean I'd be the kind of person they made fun of — a person who had no respect for myself, no respect for art, and no respect for effort, and thus deserved to be ridiculed.

So I stopped drawing. :/

I moved entirely to creative pursuits I did want to put the time and effort into becoming proficient at (music, games). But I used to draw all the time. Reading this article, I cried a bit remembering how much I used to love drawing. It was one of my absolute favorite pastimes as a kid. And that's what it was — a pastime. I feel like the internet kinda took that from me.

Even now with more maturity and hindsight, I've had fun picking up the pencil again recently, but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it without the excuse of it being supplemental to something else I'm doing "for real" i.e. game concept art, music cover art.
 
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Lady Murasaki

Scary Shiny Glasses
Member
Oct 25, 2017
680
This is so true. I really like to read about cinema and its history, but in my circle of friends, it is very tiring since everyone thinks you must write a review about every movie or TV show you watch. People talking over and over and over about photography, ''homages'' to other mainstream directors, and fucking long takes. And of course, sport hating Netflix originals.

Not to mention the need of having a supposedly ''refined taste'' that most of the time don't even reach art/independent films, but mostly is composed of people saying how Nolan's Batman Trilogy is one of the biggest cinematic masterpieces ever made. Can't we just... Enjoy watching stuff and not over analyze it?

I also play the piano and sing and it ALSO was a competition. Apparently, you can't play or sing anymore without having a YT channel with your covers to ''prove it'' - studio techniques and equipment for recording obligatory. Or if you write, you must publish it online and gather a ''social media following''. And drawing - only digital drawing is ''valid''. And reading - you are not allowed to read things translated into your native language if you understand English, because apparently, every translation is trash. And people classifying every book into tropes and talking about goddamn Joseph Campbell over and over again.

I feel all my hobbies were kinda tainted by this to some extent and this even mined my pleasure in doing it. It's easy to say ''just get over it'' but it's something hard to dodge, feeling like you are not good enough, ''why you bother'' thoughts creeping inside your mind when you just want to share your hobbies and interests with other people and online communities. Maybe the right way to enjoy hobbies is doing everything offline, strictly by yourself.
 
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plngsplsh

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,142
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Nerdyone

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,723
This reads like someone is really insecure about themselves and less about society as a whole.

I"m in my 40s and just got into strong man competitions. Haven't won yet but still doing it. I also just picked up guitar. I suck but I enjoy it
 

Nerdyone

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,723
This article resonates with me. I can't even play some games anymore (CS for example) because I get so frustrated with how bad I am now compared to my younger self. Same with weightlifting -- I feel so demotivated going to the gym and knowing I'll never be as strong as I was in my prime.



This is interesting. Does local game scene refer to a specific genre like fighting games or do you mean games in general? And where are you based? Creating local tournaments is something that has interested me for a good while.
With weightlifting, don't think for a second that your 20s are your prime unless you are competing. I couldn't break 495 in the deadlift until I was 40
 

Dream Machine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,085
Protip: Don't post about it on social media until you get better at it if you're self conscious about not being good at it.
 

jackal27

Member
Oct 25, 2017
940
Joplin, MO
I feel this completely and in fact it's killed my drawing in the last few years... I really wish I could ignore it, but I'm not sure I can.

I just recently got back into Gundam models and now I'm thinking about painting, distressing, building landscapes, etc. I really shouldn't though.