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Chaserjoey

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Oct 27, 2017
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Why would Square Enix release another bundle when they have a bundle that is more appealing because it comes with KHIII? Nothing against you for your post, I'm just baffled by the person you linked suggesting another PS4 bundle is coming that is worse than the one already available.
Okay, before y'all quote me yeah I am shocked that it was legit lmao
 

Rotobit

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I'm very doubtful, some really over-estimate the power of the Switch

Unless, of course, we are getting the Switch Pro next year. Or they go the route of cloud streaming for Japan.

Or we get Kingdom Hearts III: Pocket Edition
 

fiendcode

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2 actually , xenoblade and fe warriors .
That and the entire library of snes vc. Also some games , the way they ran might as well have been exclusives, like hyrule warriors.

The point is nintendo has set that precedent , its not beyond them and its pretty much the only way theyll see games like kh3 running reasonably on their hardware.
There were also some 3rd party n3DS exclusives. Most were minor games or indies but the were some pretty notable ports like The Binding of Issac Rebirth and Minecraft.

A lot more titles saw n3DS enhancement though in various ways (Monster Hunter, Ace Combat, Smash Bros, Petit Computer, Terraria, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Pokémon, Hyrule Warriors, Hatsune Miku, etc, etc). Some were improved in viduals/performance, some improved load times, some added control options, some used amiibo, or any combination of the above.
 

Lelouch0612

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The artstyle should scale well to lower resolutions, it might be worth a try.

They will likely port the KH collection first.
 

P-MAC

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I'm very doubtful, some really over-estimate the power of the Switch

Unless, of course, we are getting the Switch Pro next year. Or they go the route of cloud streaming for Japan.

Or we get Kingdom Hearts III: Pocket Edition

I dunno man Kingdom Hearts 3 looks far from the most demanding of games. it has high image quality which would obviously be reduced on Switch but it's not like it's full of crazy lighting and effects. It will need some compromises for sure but there's no reason it shouldn't be doable. If it was impossible, Wolfenstein would be too.
 

UltraMagnus

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If they're willing to do it for DQXI, why not here I guess. They both run on UE4 so it's not the same thing as FFXV.

That said SE may also already know Switch Pro or whatever is coming.
 

Rotobit

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I dunno man Kingdom Hearts 3 looks far from the most demanding of games. it has high image quality which would obviously be reduced on Switch but it's not like it's full of crazy lighting and effects. It will need some compromises for sure but there's no reason it shouldn't be doable. If it was impossible, Wolfenstein would be too.

While the trailers so far haven't really highlighted it, the areas in Kingdom Hearts 3 are massive and open. If they were segmented like they were in previous games then I could see the compromises being made due to it being more linear like Wolfenstein and Doom, but they're not.

There's this quote from Nomura on the subject:

"This Kingdom Hearts is a bit different. One world is equivalent to one [previous] game, and the things to do for each world are vastly different."

The only open world games we've seen on Switch so far are Breath of the Wild, which is incredibly stylized, has a dynamic resolution, and has a hard time hitting 30fps sometimes, and Skyrim, which is running on an engine from a decade ago.

I'm not ruling it out completely but I think the final product would be kinda garbage and reflect poorly on the quality of the game if it actually came out.
 

Tsunamo

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From what I recall there's been a couple of interviews where it's been boughtup and they've said they wouldn't rule it out when the Xbox One/PS4 versions are done.

If they can do some cutbacks and get it running at around 30fps i'd doubledip for sure. With that said though I really really hope they endup porting The Story So Far Collection aswell. I'd love 3 on Switch, but having the rest of the series on there would be absolutely amazing and a good way to get everyone caughtup.
 

Pablo Mesa

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this is such a weird thing to say "Square enix is interests", like if you are interested, just do it, they own the IP, or what is Disney telling em not to do it?
 

Vinnk

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I would probably still get KH3 on PS4 because that is where it will look best, but I would totally buy a "Story so Far" pack on the Switch. That's lot of game there and the only way I would ever finish it is with a portable version. As it is I don't plan to buy KH3 anytime soon because I haven't played most of the series.
 

Notaskwid

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Yeah, for real, I'm not sure about the feasibility of Kingdom Hearts 3 (or 0.2) on the switch, but they are for sure leaving money on the table for not having at least 1.5+2.5 on the console, I wonder what is stopping them from doing it.
Maybe 1 and 2 have something proprietary to Sony?
 

Dr. Mario

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The only open world games we've seen on Switch so far are Breath of the Wild, which is incredibly stylized, has a dynamic resolution, and has a hard time hitting 30fps sometimes, and Skyrim, which is running on an engine from a decade ago.
Xenoblade 2? It looks pretty similar to KH3 if you take away some of the more elaborate UE4 lighting shaders. Obviously any port will have lower polygon models and aggressive dynamic resolution, but the fact that KH3 has cartoon graphics makes it very suitable for a Switch port.
 

Rodjer

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Xenoblade 2? It looks pretty similar to KH3 if you take away some of the more elaborate UE4 lighting shaders. Obviously any port will have lower polygon models and aggressive dynamic resolution, but the fact that KH3 has cartoon graphics makes it very suitable for a Switch port.


XC2 looks ugly and blurry af, Zelda looks better and it's better optimized.
 

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I'd rather have a 1.5+2.5 port to PC / Xbox and a eventual KH3 port to Steam.

I could see the previous games on switch, but KH3? Even with all the engine improvements I highly doubt it would run on it without some massive compromises.
 

Łazy

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I'm very doubtful, some really over-estimate the power of the Switch

Unless, of course, we are getting the Switch Pro next year. Or they go the route of cloud streaming for Japan.

Or we get Kingdom Hearts III: Pocket Edition
If anything, a lot of people underestimate it I'd say.

It certainly won't be a pocket edition.
Yeah, for real, I'm not sure about the feasibility of Kingdom Hearts 3 (or 0.2) on the switch, but they are for sure leaving money on the table for not having at least 1.5+2.5 on the console, I wonder what is stopping them from doing it.
Maybe 1 and 2 have something proprietary to Sony?
SquareEnix alreasy said they're waiting for 3 out before doing that.
Could be a deal with sony, could just be a personal decision, but they said it.

For me KH 1 to 3 were locked.
After FF coming to switch the most obvious would be KH (it shouldn't as other series for me are superior but nowadays that's how it is).
this is such a weird thing to say "Square enix is interests", like if you are interested, just do it, they own the IP, or what is Disney telling em not to do it?
Last time a company said "we'll see" they were already developping so... whatever they say.
Could mean anything really.
 
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Psamtik

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KH3 would do very well in Nintendo's ecosystem, so this isn't a surprise. It's not as if the art style wouldn't lend itself to a lower-spec version, either - look how well KH2 holds up.
 

Henrik

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I dunno man Kingdom Hearts 3 looks far from the most demanding of games. it has high image quality which would obviously be reduced on Switch but it's not like it's full of crazy lighting and effects. It will need some compromises for sure but there's no reason it shouldn't be doable. If it was impossible, Wolfenstein would be too.
This.

I wasn't impressed by KH3 when it was shown on stage at TGS. Especially the snow world looked similar to KH2 design wise. This is made for the fans and not newcomers to keep it as traditional as possible.

Very likely they can find a solution to make it run on Switch.
 

Mbolibombo

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Well them being interested in bringing it to the Switch would be given.. if it's possible is another question.
I dont think it's impossible by any means but it at least has to look good enough to warrant a release.
If we do see the KH collection for the Switch and it's called "the story so far" on the Switch as well.. yeah then I might think it might happen.


With all that said, anything that comes from youtube fame Dreamcastguy, OJ, SMD64 and so on... I dont put much stock in at all.
 
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As a Switch Owner, I'd prefer if they give me The Story So Far. Looks like a better product to start with and also, it's easier to put on the Switch
 

Aprikurt

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KH3 would do very well in Nintendo's ecosystem, so this isn't a surprise. It's not as if the art style wouldn't lend itself to a lower-spec version, either - look how well KH2 holds up.
No offence, but I think this is taking the view that "Cartoon art style = lower tech". KH3 is years ahead of KH2, graphically. There's a lot of lighting/shading going on, and lots of enemies on screen at any given time.
 

Spine Crawler

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they should start with KH 1.5,2.5 and 2.8

3 will probably be severely downported but i dont have an issue with it. KH on PSP and 3DS were great
No offence, but I think this is taking the view that "Cartoon art style = lower tech". KH3 is years ahead of KH2, graphically. There's a lot of lighting/shading going on, and lots of enemies on screen at any given time.
and UE4 is a scalable engine. there are a lot of UE4 games on switch

it will need optimization but i dont see it as an impossinble endeavour
Sure thing.

For $60, same release date as the $40 complete collection of all KH games for PS4.
id buy it for portability (got the games on ps2 and the remasters on PS3.
 
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While the trailers so far haven't really highlighted it, the areas in Kingdom Hearts 3 are massive and open. If they were segmented like they were in previous games then I could see the compromises being made due to it being more linear like Wolfenstein and Doom, but they're not.

There's this quote from Nomura on the subject:



The only open world games we've seen on Switch so far are Breath of the Wild, which is incredibly stylized, has a dynamic resolution, and has a hard time hitting 30fps sometimes, and Skyrim, which is running on an engine from a decade ago.

I'm not ruling it out completely but I think the final product would be kinda garbage and reflect poorly on the quality of the game if it actually came out.
There are two open world UE4 games, one is Rime, which has performance problems everywhere, and there's Ark coming out which is much more demanding on hardware than KH3.
DQXI is also coming from Square Enix, also on UE4, and also a 30FPS open world game.
 

Psamtik

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No offence, but I think this is taking the view that "Cartoon art style = lower tech". KH3 is years ahead of KH2, graphically. There's a lot of lighting/shading going on, and lots of enemies on screen at any given time.

Agreed, and it wasn't my intention to detract from how astonishingly good 3 looks. It's more a matter of 2 holding up remarkably well for its age, such that splitting the difference could still result in a great-looking game with its style recognizably intact. It's easier to picture low-spec KH3 in my head than, say, low-spec AC: Odyssey.
 

Wise

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Oct 27, 2017
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Would love KH3 on the switch but would the switch be able run it at a reasonable frame rate?
 

Dalik

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I'd rather have a 1.5+2.5 port to PC / Xbox and a eventual KH3 port to Steam.

I could see the previous games on switch, but KH3? Even with all the engine improvements I highly doubt it would run on it without some massive compromises.
It's only a matter of time really when even dragon quest is on PC day and date with ps4.
 

DXB-KNIGHT

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I can see that happening plus they can add a secret new clip at the end.
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