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New Switch model coming in second half of 2019, reports Japanese WSJ
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Built-in controls and removal of the dock doesn't actually "switch" anymore though. What you're describing would split the userbase and is not simply a "cheaper switch"
It would be interesting if they are able to have a 1080p screen and basically have a version of the Switch that doesn't have to downgrade to run portably but does it just as an optional mode to save power. I don't know if that's feasible, but it seems like a way to slowly phase out the OG version while not having new hardware being as hampered by being compatible with a low power mode, at least in my mind.
Complete system transfer functionality has been available on the Switch for ages. It's tucked away in the settings.
Yeah I don't doubt that at all which is exactly why I don't think a pro revision is necessary this soon. They can release a pro model in 2021 or so which could compete a lot better than one released in 2019.
But anyway my point is, if the purpose of this new pro revision is to get next gen ports then those ports wouldn't be able to come to the base Switch at all. And like you said I don't know how true that is. Developers and insiders have said card costs and capacity are affecting ports more than processing power. That and ROI.
That's true I guess. Doesn't make it any less shitty of them if they do it though.
I'd be more than happy with smaller bezels (resulting in slightly bigger screen) and enough extra juice for native undocked (720p) and 900p-1080p docked (both modes also offer better framerates and visual quality) for exclusives and first party games (games like DOOM and Wolf 2 can be 720p-900p with better framerate and visual quality). 2019 is too early for a Super Super Switch 2 (with full backwards compatibility).
Hmm... but what about transferring one user? I wouldn't mind letting my daughter have this switch, but not having the ability to move all my (or her) saves over would be a hassle.
So, i realize this thread is well past it's usefulness by now but it seems to me that nobody is actually reading the article sourced by the op. I'll take a deeper dive at this confusing piece that starts with a:
Oh, you're not doing so well nintendo.
But the switch is selling at "a pace that compares favorably" to the fastest selling console of all time...Which it means, it is doing very well, right?
So, ok, Nintendo may or may not be doing well but a revision is coming according to this piece, but what's changing?
Eh, is it even feasible that some months before a revision is made Nintendo hasnt decided on the hardware? Seems very very unlikely.
Thankfully someone has a clue
"People with knowledge of the discussion" said that the one thing nobody is complaining about (the screen) might be changed, or not, who knows.
Then, we have the most important part of the article
So, why would an upgraded switch answer questions about the future of the 3ds, when the 3ds is known for being a cheaper product for a younger demographic, and an upgrade on the switch would surely result on a product at least as expensive as the one we have now.
At the same time, software makers seem to be expecting a cheaper and maybe smaller console, so, again, the article tells us fucking nothing, and that's it.
Seems to me like nobody actually knows (or atleast the person who wrote this article) nothing about the new switch revision, although it's likely it will happen cause apparently the wsj is legit when it comes to this things. I say meh, it'll be a switch lite for kids to play your animal crossing and pokemon on the go. Maybe Nintendo will shrink it, maybe not, but they'll cut costs somewhere and sell a cheaper sku for children, that's my take
Oh, you're not doing so well nintendo.
But the switch is selling at "a pace that compares favorably" to the fastest selling console of all time...Which it means, it is doing very well, right?
So, ok, Nintendo may or may not be doing well but a revision is coming according to this piece, but what's changing?
Eh, is it even feasible that some months before a revision is made Nintendo hasnt decided on the hardware? Seems very very unlikely.
Thankfully someone has a clue
"People with knowledge of the discussion" said that the one thing nobody is complaining about (the screen) might be changed, or not, who knows.
Then, we have the most important part of the article
So, why would an upgraded switch answer questions about the future of the 3ds, when the 3ds is known for being a cheaper product for a younger demographic, and an upgrade on the switch would surely result on a product at least as expensive as the one we have now.
At the same time, software makers seem to be expecting a cheaper and maybe smaller console, so, again, the article tells us fucking nothing, and that's it.
Seems to me like nobody actually knows (or atleast the person who wrote this article) nothing about the new switch revision, although it's likely it will happen cause apparently the wsj is legit when it comes to this things. I say meh, it'll be a switch lite for kids to play your animal crossing and pokemon on the go. Maybe Nintendo will shrink it, maybe not, but they'll cut costs somewhere and sell a cheaper sku for children, that's my take
If I'm not mistaken it's a complete account transfer, not a complete system transfer. So no problem.
Switch+
If there's actual improvements to the internal hardware like the n3DS, which I don't necessarily believe to be the case yet
If there's actual improvements to the internal hardware like the n3DS, which I don't necessarily believe to be the case yet
Yeah I can see it being a X2. Maybe a die size reduction for same power useage but with nicely increased clock speeds and memory bandwidth.
I didn't believe Nintendo would release a revision this soon, but with the technology that's already available it's actually a good idea to get it out of the way, get all the attention in 2019, and not get swallowed in 2020 by the release of the PS5 and the XBOX Scarlett.
For a good while the former two will be more important than the latter. As long as that remains true, it's best to have a model that has genuinely good graphics in third party ports and a base model that makes them serviceable, and have it now to keep the momentum going.
These new more powerful versions were many years after the release of the original hardware (5+ years i think?). That's a big difference than releasing a new Switch revision similar to a N3DS or DSI only 2 and a half years after the original release. So yes it would be new for them (and dumb).
Why does the power gap even matter at this point? Its primarily a handheld system. Theres no possibility of it competing against the others regardless of what they release. Even if Nintendo did a Switch Pro, it would still lag far behind PS5/Next Xbox and wouldnt get AAA games anyway. It still wouldn't even get games out right now like AC or Tomb Raider etc.
Jesus now we're talking about if it'll get exclusive games? It's a hardware revision, not a next-gen console.
I'm glad I've waited. I guess I'll wait even longer now.
I was worried I'd buy then this would happen.
I was worried I'd buy then this would happen.
Eh, Switch won't get swallowed by newer, more powerful machines. Xbox One, PS4, PS4 Pro, and Xbox One X are all already considerably more powerful. Switch's entire success is a result of the utility of the device (portability). They don't need to worry about how powerful these next round of machines are going to be, but they do need to be concerned about what Sony is going to do with PS5 to try and negate Nintendo's advantage regarding portability (I don't think Microsoft will bother).
It's a Switch thread. We must shit the bed, by hook or crook.
Next year looks very interesting for Nintendo
- 64GB carts made available to developers
- Japanese publishers like Capcom and Sega expected to start unveiling stuff that isn't complete shit
- Take 2 and Blizzard coming on board
- Probably the most insane first party lineup of any system ever
- A hardware revision
As much as I want a more powerful Switch I do think this will end up being a Switch with a smaller chip process which will mean docked clocks on the go allowing for a 1080p screen OR the smaller chip and increased battery will be used in a portable only Switch which will retail for $199 in time for Winter 2019 and the next big Pokemon game.
I think the second option is the likeliest allowing Nintendo to further expand the user base which means more software / DLC / Online subscription revenue. A Switch which boosts handheld and docked resolution or a dedicated console Switch which does 4k would be great but only appeal to a fraction of the people a dedicated handheld Switch would.
I wouldn't mind something of a marginal upgrade that gets games like Xenoblade 2 running at full 720 in handheld.
Depends on what angle you're coming from - handheld vise, there's almost always been a handful of exclusive games. Game Boy Color, DSi and n3DS all got their exclusive titles.
But I don't expect this to happen here.
I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. Games like Red Dead Redemption 2, Devil May Cry 5, & the Resident Evil 2 remake are likely far above what the Switch can handle, even considering with what we can reasonably expect for this new Switch model. Even with the 64GB carts, they're still gonna be hella expensive for third party publishers to utilize unless Nintendo eats a vast majority of the cost (if not all of the cost). Though on the Capcom side, I'd imagine that we'll get Ace Attorney 7 at some point alongside more ports of their older games (namely Resident Evil 4-6 & Ace Attorney 4-6). Not sure about Sega, unless they have another mainline Sonic game cooking in the oven right now.
Pretty much. I'm not ruling out that this leak could actually end up being about a clamshell device rather than a v2, as it would explain the requirement for a lower power, thinner screen a little better than the other options.
This is what people need to remember. This revision -- be it a Pro/Slim or whatever -- is a companion to the current Switch. Not a replacement. Not the start of a new generation.
They wont replace the system after only ~2 years. It could worse/best (depends on how you look at it) case senario be exclusive games, but they're likely only to be a handful.
New 3DS was more of a hardware revision than a next gen console and it got exclusive games. It's a valid concern considering what Nintendo has done in the past.
I'll always thing of this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Shield_(set-top_box) - as the first revision of the Switch. Like NVIDIA build the thing to have the dual purpose of showing a consumer device and having something to pitch to Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.
That was 2015 (mid).
Switch was 2017 (early)
New thing is 2019 (mid-late)
That was 2015 (mid).
Switch was 2017 (early)
New thing is 2019 (mid-late)
It didn't really get exclusive games from Nintendo. It got ports.
There are no games that Nintendo could port to a hypothetical "New" Switch that wouldn't also be able to run on the current Switch.
But its a handheld. It goes placed. Being smaller/better battery/more efficient is worth an upgrade for a 2.5 year old console (if mid-late 2019)
Not even that, but Sony and MS both released multiple updates this gen.
It will use an updated Tegra processor to improve battery efficiency and remove the current hacking vulnerabilities. It will also feature an improved screen to make use of that extra power efficiency. It will also feature a new kick stand, but otherwise be the same size as the current switch and use the same joycons.
Screenshot this.
Screenshot this.
If it's going smaller than whatever. No big deal. I don't want it smaller.
Capcom will do many more ports/remasters, more MT framework games (AA7, MHP5, MMX9, etc) and probably some more RE Engine Cloud releases for Japan and maybe they'll start testing them overseas. The system will continue missing out on native RE Engine games and MHW but it's going to get basically everything else.
Sega will have more Sonic, Puyo Puyo, Sakura Taisen, Football Manager and lots of Sega Ages. It'll just miss out on Yakuza really.
The best way for Nintendo to drive down card costs though is through scaling up production. Hopefully some of their huge titles like Smash Ultimate and Pokémon VIII start shipping on 32GB cards to help that along.
Isn't it said that Smash Ultimate will take up 16GB? You'd think that it'd be the one game that would need a 32GB cart. As for Pokémon Gen 8, I'm not sure if it'll need a 32GB cart.
It got one exclusive game. That's it. And there were two 3DS revisions before the New 3DS.
I would really love two new Switch. When I see this graphic:
I think there is a market for an home console only (18%) and another for an handheld console only (30%). Nintendo would be dumb to not create a dedicated console for these markets.
For the future, they should have three devices:
I think there is a market for an home console only (18%) and another for an handheld console only (30%). Nintendo would be dumb to not create a dedicated console for these markets.
For the future, they should have three devices:
- An home console. No screen, but the most powerful console from Nintendo. All games can run at 1080p/60 FPS.
- An hybrid: the current Switch.
- An handheld console. The smallest and the cheapest console.
As long as GameStop does some sort of trade-in special with the current Switch model, I'm in day one.
Speaking of which, what's been Gamestop's history with trade-ins on console revisions? Are they pretty good with offering a nice deal when trading in the older model?
Speaking of which, what's been Gamestop's history with trade-ins on console revisions? Are they pretty good with offering a nice deal when trading in the older model?
I would really love two new Switch. When I see this graphic:
I think there is a market for an home console only (18%) and another for an handheld console only (30%). Nintendo would be dumb to not create a dedicated console for these markets.
For the future, they should have three devices:
All Switch would have the same library and they could be used together.
- An home console. No screen, but the most powerful console from Nintendo. All games can run at 1080p/60 FPS.
- An hybrid: the current Switch.
- An handheld console. The smallest and the cheapest console.
Can't share all the games between this many SKUs. Stuff like Labo, Mario party, and 1-2 Switch only work in certain modes and not others. You'd fragment the userbase this way
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