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BigDes

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And Ciri calls Geralt her father in a conversation with Gretka. Adoptive fathers are still fathers and that's not a confirmation.

Something can be true and unconfirmed.
On the first game it is heavily implied. In the second game it is directly confirmed several times.

Edit: though neither game would fit with the whole sad dad redemption arc anyway. First game is saving your daughter and getting revenge, second game is a flat out revenge play.

Neither of them are particularly redemptive.
 

SolVanderlyn

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DMC5 is coming, get hype

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I like the gradual progression from nice dad to total asshole dad.
 

hibikase

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Unfortunately outside of a few exceptions like Yakuza, video games aren't treated as a serious enough medium in Japan to tell adult stories on the level of TLOU or GoW.
 
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Don't take this thread as an attack on Japanese games, peeps. cool.
 

Man God

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Unfortunately outside of a few exceptions like Yakuza, video games aren't treated as a serious enough medium in Japan to tell adult stories on the level of TLOU or GoW.

Both...fully funded by a Japanese company.

Also there have been far more Japanese examples listed in this thread.
 

Crayon

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You just wanted to say "sad dad redemption!"

I would too, if I had thought of it. Pretty clever. Catchy.
 
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Sad Dad is on another business trip to Tokyo but won't be back til this weekend. Strangely Unfeeling Mom never has anything to say about it.
 

Strangelove_77

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Japan's too busy making games about kids and teens for kids and teens.
 

hibikase

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Both...fully funded by a Japanese company.

Also there have been far more Japanese examples listed in this thread.

You're grasping at straws here. Those games were both made by American studios, and intended for a Western audience.

And Sony Interactive Entertainment is based in California now anyway. It's not a Japanese organization anymore.
 

Omegamon

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One thing I have noticed is that the "kids" in dad japanese games are more idealized(never argue,do everything the parents says) while the ones in western games act more like real kids. That's just in in dad games tho, the ones with kids as protagonists are fine.
 

RestEerie

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It'd certainly be interesting and refreshing to have games feature an older woman being a mentor/guiding figure for a young male character, and the male character learning and trying to emulate her as his role model. You certainly don't get that in games.

Heck, come to think of it, I don't think we really see that in entertainment media in general. It's usually "father/son" or "father/daughter" type scenarios.

Where is the kill bill game adaptation?
 

Deleted member 1839

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Corvo is 100% her father.

Don't remember if they explored much of it in the novel and haven't played 2 myself but I did find this.
https://www.gameinformer.com/games/.../21/21-things-we-know-about-dishonored-2.aspx

The game starts with a day in the life of Empress Emily Kaldwin, a character that Arkane was intent on exploring more after the first game. "By the end of Dishonored, Emily was a very interesting character to us," Colantonio says. "She was the only thing good in the world actually worth saving. She was also a reflection of Corvo's actions, and some players figured out that she was Corvo's daughter."
 
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Japanese games skew to certain genres Japanese gamers like.

You don't see too many sports, sad dad SP games, shooters, racers (aside from maybe GT), western style RPGs, MMO.

Games usually geared to that teenage kid/anime style, but then some reason and somehow some games like Resident Evil, Gran Turismo and PES I think are popular. Games that are more gritty and realistic-ish. So you'd think they'd make more of these, but Japanese devs don't.
 

Aftervirtue

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Not the main protagonist, but the first boss in Bloodborne, father gascoigne
is definitely a sad dad and perfectly sets the morbid tone of the world.
 

Striferser

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sad dad redemption is a catchy name, i'll give you that OP

My contribution:
Siren Blood Curse, well it's not about fatherhood for the whole game, but one of the main character is a father who try to save his daughter, and when the ending rolled around, he definitely earned that sad dad redemption
 

Nightengale

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Japanese game development skew to the youth market - and even when Japanese developers are growing older, there doesn't appear to be the notion the market wants to make a lot of games that evoke the life story of the middle-aged man/woman.
 

Steel

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Wasn't the original Nier basically the sad dad concept? I haven't actually played it mind, just automata.
 

StormEagle

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It'd certainly be interesting and refreshing to have games feature an older woman being a mentor/guiding figure for a young male character, and the male character learning and trying to emulate her as his role model. You certainly don't get that in games.

Heck, come to think of it, I don't think we really see that in entertainment media in general. It's usually "father/son" or "father/daughter" type scenarios.
A Full Metal Alchemist (prequel-ish) game could focus on that. The brothers even emulating their teachers biggest mistake. And since the first anime already introduced heavy altering of the story, the game could retell the proper story arc with focus on Izumi Curtis and all but completely sideline Hohenheim.

A Kill Bill game could be cool.

Where is the kill bill game adaptation?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kill Bill seems more of an Angry Mom Revengeance type.
 

Kewlmyc

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Replace "sad dad" with "sad big brother" and you'll get more results. Some NSFW probably.
 

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Don't remember if they explored much of it in the novel and haven't played 2 myself but I did find this.
https://www.gameinformer.com/games/.../21/21-things-we-know-about-dishonored-2.aspx
They are explicit about it in 2. I mean there is a reason everyone saying "I didn't realize Corvo was Emily's father" are all also saying they haven't played 2.

It is also heavily implied in 1, to the point that assuming anything else is silly because the only evidence that exists is that Corvo is her father.