Streaming consoles are coming Next Gen, will you jump in ?

A streaming service that is locked to a specific console is about the stupidest possible way of making a streaming service. If someone makes a service, they should put out a app on every possible relevant OS out there.

Nope. Too much dependencies. I'm fine with the current experience. Don't need streaming.

Nope
And even if streaming takes off I'll just use my traditional console and/or PC for it.

Ex-Actarus said:

You don't like Netflix ?

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Not an apt comparison at all. Serving video streams is wholly different from a highly scalable, latency sensitive, real time rendering infrastructure that would need to be maintained and operated. Their largest core media business is what? Video. A business that they are the leaders in and been doing it on the web for longer than just about anyone (at scale). They couldn't prevent a 40 min outage during the World Cup this summer. Their core media business. How will they provide sustained GPU/CPU/MEM @ <40ms @25Mbit for a massively distributed audience? Happy to be proven wrong, but it's a tall order for sure.

I jumped on early last gen when I think OnLive? was a thing. It wasn't there at all. The lag was terrible but if the tech is there, I'll try it. I'm still sticking with hardware in house though.

As long as there is band caps this streaming crap will never succeed.

Interfectum said:

I watch streaming videos on Netflix and HBO Now all the time and enjoy. I don't need to own or covet them. I consumed them and moved on. I don't see why games are any different especially if they are available at a monthly price similar to Netflix.

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I guess it's fine, if you don't actually care much about games.

Not with this infrastructure

Currently in the NVIDIA Geforce beta program, 150mbps, but the servers always seem so busy, which causes the resolution & framerate always defaults to my sub native monitor resolutionmakes. Could be my laptop though, but going by this experience, it wasn't quite there yet for me.
One major advanage was that I didn't have to install games (they're installed within a sec. on their servers + patches and all) on my laptop and launching a game didn't take that long. Moreover, when it did work stable, it was great that I could play games with settings cranked up on my 6 year old laptop.

I'm curious as to how it would be with PSNow or other services in the future (microsoft) and I wouldn't mind having it along a traditional console.

No thanks.

You already know shitty telecoms with fuck with it like they did Netflix and Hulu.

Imagine Console Y streaming not counting towards you data cap but console Z does.

Crayon said:

Okay, guys. What happens when Google funds a sick game that is exclusive to their streaming service? How much does that scare you?

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With the amount of other amazing games not locked into a streaming service? Not a single bit.

There are 40 years of physical games I could play if the industry ever moved to an all digital or all streaming future. I won't support the destruction of gaming.

Ex-Actarus said:

I disagree.
We're here on ERA, it's the Internet, it's the Cloud. If anything, there is more Art and creativity nowadays than ever before. Look at all the businesses and startup that exist thanks to the Internet technology. The barrier of entry was so high before the Internet.

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None of that matters. If a game only exists as a memory or a recorded video it doesn't really exist at all.

So I completely disagree with your Doom and Gloom scenario. Vinyls, CDs, DVDs, Blu Ray are still a thing today despite the streaming services. It's not like it will be be : "get a streamimg console or nothing". Come on now.

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Except the games industry has made clear their intention to move away from physical media. Much so more than the music, film, and television industries. A streaming only future destroys the possibility of real preservation.

Is it the ONLY option for console gaming? If so, yes. But if I can remain traditional with physical media, then that.

MakoEyes said:

No, if it is streaming only, I am out.

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My answer right here.

I can understand if there's a separate SKU that's strictly streaming. Like a "PS5 Lite" alongside its main system that's half to 2/3 the cost of its beefy brethren. But if streaming is the only option to play games, then nah that's not working for me.

Streaming games will be a niche for a very long time. No way it becomes the norm any time soon

Hell no. Eventhough I have a 200Mbps connection, it can still occasionally hitch or kick me out during Netflix and online play. I'd hate the idea of that being a possibility with all games, single player included. I also like to have ownership of my games, eventhough I might not be able to get post-release patches for them years from now.

I find it hard to believe game streaming is going to take off globally, when many regions don't have it as good as we have in Scandinavia. Hell, NA has data caps even at this age.

Crayon said:

Okay, guys. What happens when Google funds a sick game that is exclusive to their streaming service? How much does that scare you?

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I cannot afford the time right now to own all the consoles/games, I will be fine when it happens again and again just like it has happened in the past.

xxracerxx said:

I cannot afford the time right now to own all the consoles/games, I will be fine when it happens again and again just like it has happened in the past.

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And in ~15 years that service shuts down and that game is lost forever where today if you miss something it has a much higher chance of existing forever as physical media and you could go back 40 years later and still play.

Nope, if game streaming became the future, I would quit modern gaming and go full retro.

No, never.

After jumping to 4K?

"Streaming consoles are coming next gen."

No, they aren't.

For me there is no reason for a streaming device instead of a real console. I can afford a console and I have no Intention to play games anywhere else at home than on my TV.

If you are an early adopter for new console generations a streaming device will probably turn out more expensive in the end while offering a worse experience thanks to latency and Image quality.

Yeah.. no. I'll stick with PS4 till the end then.

Absolutely not. If gaming went full steaming only then I'd be done with gaming. Ownership and preservation are very important to me. I don't want to pay a monthly fee to play games that are taken from the service.

I'd be down right now if the Switch had some sorta monthly streaming thing that wasn't just NES games. With that being said, for newer games, I am probably not down for that.

All digital? Absolutely.

All streaming? No way. Not viable until latency is figured out.

Even though I have fiber internet with unlimited usage I will never chose game streaming over traditional gaming.

Hell fuckin no. Even if I were to put aside the fear that games would just stop existing once a service goes down and data caps, I play a lot of games where latency matters a shitload. Tetris with bad latency is borderline unplayable at the speeds I play.

I might buy a streaming box as a secondary gaming system if it works really well, but my main gaming will definitely be on a traditional console next-gen.

Nope. Local for life. Streaming will work well eventually, and even be very good looking, but it will never match local rendering. We are talking Netflix streaming vs. UHD Blu Ray gulf here.

It would be a disaster with my internet, not interested in the slightest bit.

Never wasn't an option.

Depends on the pricing really. I think a gamepass like streaming service would be nice when bored. No 100gb download can just start playing something new right away.

No because I live in the Caribbean and there is zero chance this will work well here within the next 2 decades or so

As a companion service, hell yeah. Being able to play Forza Horizon 4 on my Surface tablet 1080/60fps would be glorious. Not (yet) as my main.

slamhk said:

Currently in the NVIDIA Geforce beta program, 150mbps, but the servers always seem so busy, which causes the resolution & framerate always defaults to my sub native monitor resolutionmakes. Could be my laptop though, but going by this experience, it wasn't quite there yet for me.
One major advanage was that I didn't have to install games (they're installed within a sec. on their servers + patches and all) on my laptop and launching a game didn't take that long. Moreover, when it did work stable, it was great that I could play games with settings cranked up on my 6 year old laptop.

I'm curious as to how it would be with PSNow or other services in the future (microsoft) and I wouldn't mind having it along a traditional console.

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I'm in both the PC Beta and the Shield Beta for GeForce NOW and I can say with 100% certainty that this service is optimized for the Shield.

Any time I used the service on PC I experienced long wait times, occasional hiccups, more incontinency with streaming bitrate, and slightly increased input lag. On the Shield, the service just works. Usually no waiting time, better bitrate consistency, less input lag, and the interface is just really slick and streamlined.

People keep talking about streaming consoles as a hypothetical, but one such console already exists. It's called the NVIDIA Shield and it's fucking amazing. No storage concerns, no spec requirement concerns, just awesome PC games at max settings and high framerates.

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I should probably mention that my Shield is connected to the internet via ethernet cable, which is essential for signal stability.

I will never compromise my ownership or local play for an empty plastic box that streams remotely. I would sooner give up buying new video gaming content.

We're still in the "will digital ownership only be viable on consoles" era.

Ex-Actarus said:

So Google shared some details about "Project Steam" which gives the ability to play games with console quality via streaming. They are actually launching a likited test to play Assassin's Creed Odyssey in 1080p/60fps.



We already heard Microsoft could have a streaming device among thr rumored Scarlett next gen devices. So if Google launches a streaming videogame service next gen, we could have already two options next gen.

We know there are still some technological hurdles ( as highlighted in the BBC news article below ), but will you make the jump next gen ? Will you start enjoy games the same way you can enjoy movies on Netflix or music on Spotify today.

Projet Stream details : https://www.google.es/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-45719240

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Ex-Actarus said:

I don't get all the negative reactions here. We're talking about Google here, not Onlive. If a company can deliver console like quality via streaming, it will be google !

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Half of the complaints and people who disagree with you are in regards to our sad state of Internet Service Providers. Don't ignore those posters. We simply aren't ready for this streaming future until we get rid of data caps and low bandwidth. Wherever you are living may be nice OP, but think about the rest of us. It would be a huge loss for Sony/MS/Nintendo unless a change is made to our internet. I don't see a full on streaming gen for another 10 years or more.

Interestingly enough, I just tried to stream Forza Horizon 4 from my X1X to my PC. Both X1X and pc wired to 1gbps connection. The resolution wasn't too bad but the frame rate as dropping and there was way too much lag.

The only way I would even consider streaming next gen is if it is 100% on par with local consoles but I know it won't be.

Internet in America is trash, corrupt companies like Comcast and Verizon have politicians in their pockets making sure in some areas internet speeds don't go up, only price, and in the areas where the speed does go up, it comes with monthly cap, if you want to remove that cap pay more money...a streaming console will fail in America..

Not viable yet.

It might be cheaper for game per game basis, but the required tool for that (internet connection) will be much higher. Also, everyone will be playing at 4K next gen. Why would you resort to 1080p while paying for premium? 4K streaming is out of the question.

I don't buy it for a second that most of you would be out if streaming was the future.

I'm for it. If I can log into a service and the only requirement is internet access then count me in.

Granted it won't be there for good long while.

No way in hell.

I will definitely go PS5/Switch (or Switch successor) next gen, but if MS proves its 1st party offering has improved and it holds some interesting titles and especially if i'll be able to buy individual games, i'll gladly pick up a Scarlett Streaming Box.

Why would I buy a box? Game streaming services should be deliverable via an app in your existing smart device.

I'll never go all in on streaming, but I wouldn't be opposed to using it every once in awhile if it worked.