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BradGrenz

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Oct 27, 2017
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The truth is, LOTS of people in the games industry disliked Colin for valid reasons, but could never say anything because he was protected by the IGN/KF mafia. (Mitch Dyer threatened my career when I complained about some idiotic thing Colin said about welfare.) And right now, we're seeing what happens to Colin when he's not protected. And it's kinda nice.

Honestly it does not surprise me that Mitch Dyer is also kind of a dirtbag. He always struck me as an opportunist and a sycophant.
 

flare

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Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
1,306
Finished up the latest podcast driving home from thanksgiving dinner. I love the whole crew but once again that podcast highlights why I'm such a big fan of Ben. Consistently thoughtful and eloquent discussion points put forward by Ben. And not just that but maintains the passion to go along with it. Great stuff

Ben has developed into that most rare animal who can not only write as if he was speaking to people but also speak as if he was writing thoughts on paper.

I love Ben in part because of this. He's so good at clearly translating his thoughts into words. His passion is just infectious, gotta be between him and Huber. Though I do love it when Jones goes on one of his rants.
 

Calderc

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Oct 25, 2017
2,964
The sad thing is, he knows EXACTLY what he's doing. Note there was never any "please leave the Kinda Funny guys alone, everyone" message from him, EVER. And the KF guys' replies are STILL filled with Colin's fans tweeting hateful messages to this day.

It's amazing to think the power he used to wield by failing upwards so dramatically at an institution like IGN. After the first "debate me" blowup, I was absolutely surprised to see so many messages coming in from industry folks thanking me for taking him down a peg. But they had to do it privately! And that just blows my mind.

And yeah, it does suck to know his audience is a bunch of angry white guys who could conceivably do some harm to me now that he's told them all I'm his potential assassin.

Wait, Did Colin really say you were threatening to kill him?
 

ashtaar

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,518
Jeez reading this made me depressed
First I didn't even know Brandon was entertaining the idea of going on colon s show, wow I mean yeah, I tried to give him a chance but dude is just bad I mean it sucks because sometimes his videogame stuff is on point but he's a dirtbag, even worse than his sexist tweet was his rant on PS ILY a few weeks before it kicked off, i mean thinking back to how mad i was about that makes me want to stop listen to kfgd anymore that Greg was perfectly content to let him slide with that ignorance.
Then this whole thing about Ian , he's not my fave but he's grown me and the idea that people would attack him for saying that we should believe victims of assault? Just wow
 

Anti

Banned
Nov 22, 2017
2,972
Australia
Hi, "Mackey" here, and I feel the need to defend myself from some of the dumb things being said in this thread. I don't "poke" Colin; in fact, I don't even @ him. If so, you're just asking for him to send his toxic fanbase after you (as he did with the EZA fan who also didn't @ him). In fact, all of his "DEBATE ME" nonsense was spawned by me screencapping incredibly dumb things he said and tweeting it out. (Again, without sending any of my followers to him.) Unfortunately, since I sometimes tweet about the incredibly bad things a public figure says publicly, he's told his six figures of followers I am going to kill him and his large family. He's also told vile lies about the careers of his peers when they criticize him for things he says.

The truth is, LOTS of people in the games industry disliked Colin for vaild reasons, but could never say anything because he was protected by the IGN/KF mafia. (Mitch Dyer threatened my career when I complained about some idiotic thing Colin said about welfare.) And right now, we're seeing what happens to Colin when he's not protected. And it's kinda nice.

Mitch Dyer does look like a dbag.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,884
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everything that needs to be said has been said.


While I agree with this sentiment in a general perspective, not everyone is constantly up to date on things and they have a right to express their views, opinions and concerns as it comes across. This isn't a private discord and you aren't a mod with the authority to steer conversations in any particular desired direction.
 

Deimo5

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Oct 25, 2017
297
This. Everything that needs to be said has been said.

What reviews are upcoming? I know Ben's reviewing xenoblade and has aspirations to get to Divinity and Warhammer Total War 2, but how about the others?

I don't think there's much left this year but come 2018 there will be another deluge of games. Ben is screwed with Monster Hunter World and DB FighterZ coming out on the same day lol. I would assume he wanted to review both.
 

Dmax3901

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Oct 25, 2017
7,877
While I agree with this sentiment in a general perspective, not everyone is constantly up to date on things and they have a right to express their views, opinions and concerns as it comes across. This isn't a private discord and you aren't a mod with the authority to steer conversations in any particular desired direction.
Well said and I agree.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think there's much left this year but come 2018 there will be another deluge of games. Ben is screwed with Monster Hunter World and DB FighterZ coming out on the same day lol. I would assume he wanted to review both.
It's a shame Box Peek isn't going to be ready this side of Christmas, it would be been nice to have some edited content releasing in December which would otherwise be a relatively quiet month for the channel.
 
Oct 27, 2017
277
Yep, he put out an update on patreon at the beginning of the month explaining why it's taking longer than he anticipated. When it was funded, Kyle was aiming for ~september/october for the first episode.
 

MrMette

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Oct 29, 2017
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To be honest, I rather have Kyle take his time with Box peek anyway (and I guess everybody else as it seems that most if not all of them are doing something for Box Peek).
Make it as good as it can be. No need to rush it.
 
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ZeroNoir_

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Oct 25, 2017
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While I agree with this sentiment in a general perspective, not everyone is constantly up to date on things and they have a right to express their views, opinions and concerns as it comes across. This isn't a private discord and you aren't a mod with the authority to steer conversations in any particular desired direction.

Ok i will move on.

I'm done
 

Adeptfawn

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Oct 28, 2017
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I don't think there's much left this year but come 2018 there will be another deluge of games. Ben is screwed with Monster Hunter World and DB FighterZ coming out on the same day lol. I would assume he wanted to review both.
Has it been confirmed Ben is reviewing DB FighterZ and Monster Hunter World? They come out on the same day, so I assumed they were going to give one of those to another ally (probably DBF to either Brad or Huber)
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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The podcast this week was great. I really loved Ben's input during the EA discussion. As usual, his input is thoughtful and well articulated. The L&R game was really fun, too.
 

Stowaway Silfer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Glad to see the Ben love in here. Post-EZA, Ben has been my favorite member of the crew BY FAR.

Yes, and his family. And prior to that, he told his entire Reddit he had "secret info" from "a friend of mine" that I'm mentally ill. So yes, Colin is clearly a good guy everyone should work with.

Damn it. This whole incident and all I've learned about Colin from you guys has been enough of a "Milkshake Duck" moment for me without having seen this. This makes it pathetic at this point. Colin seems like a lost cause.
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
Anyone who follows his twitter at all lnows that bobservo has an unhealthy obsession with colin. The fact that you guys are just having "normal" conversations with bob says a whole lot about how ignorant this thread is being.

Colin wasn't nice to bob. But bob obsessively searches for colin threads on a dummy twitter account because he was blocked, talks shit about him incessantly (without even having the decency to try and addresss him directly), and refused to entertain Colin's offer to make content out of their debate while donating any money made. If this is the thread for "love and respect," you guys really shouldn't be associating with that guy.


Don't take bobs act on this thread at face value. "I'm not trying to send people after him when i tweet" says a guy repeatedly taking screenshots and talking crap.

And to somehow act like it's virtuous to constantly rip a guy but NOT tag him in the conversations is absurd. It's quintessential "talking behind someone's back" and bob is trying to sell it like some kind of mature step.


You'll also notice hat bob has 5 total posts on resetera. One to promote his podcast, and then 4 In this thread to talk about colin. He joined October 28, has never posted about a a video game or favorite console, or anything like that. No evidence that he cares at all about this board. Except of course when colin gets brought it, and suddenly he's here and talkative.

Look, there are plenty of reasons to dislike colin. Don't particularly care for him myself. But bob is just as deserving (and perhaps more so) of being shunned by a community that preaches love and respect. But instead you're just believing everything he says and acting like his interactions are totally normal.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
9,155
What kinda defense is that? Him talking shit about Colin does not make it okay for Colin to send his 166k following to harass him nor anyone else.
That is what I'm taking away here. That doesn't even consider that bob apparently has very real reasons to hold this grudge regardless of that being healthy or not.
It also doesn't help that this shit follows Colin around. So when I look at other people and their followings it begs the question why Colin especially can't divorce himself from any of that. 2 possibilities a large scale conspiracy is going on or it is his conduct that attracts this kinda of shit. Occam's razor tells me it's the latter.
False equivalency to somehow make it ok in this post is through the roof.

Again take bob out of the equation he is just of the many things on the pile of shit. Colin has still not taken down the tweet outing one of the EZA people to his following and has again not taken a stance against the harassment going on under his name.
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
What kinda defense is that? Him talking shit about Colin does not make it okay for Colin to send his 166k following to harass him nor anyone else.
That is what I'm taking away here. That doesn't even consider that bob apparently has very real reasons to hold this grudge regardless of that being healthy or not.
It also doesn't help that this shit follows Colin around. So when I look at other people and their followings it begs the question why Colin especially can't divorce himself from any of that. 2 possibilities a large scale conspiracy is going on or it is his conduct that attracts this kinda of shit. Occam's razor tells me it's the latter.
False equivalency to somehow make it ok in this post is through the roof.


If this post was directed at me, i encourage you to read my post again. I did nothing to "defend" colin and said i don't even like him myself. I'm just amazed at the people in this thread just lapping up what bob says and giving him a free pass for his own toxic behavior.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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If this post was directed at me, i encourage you to read my post again. I did nothing to "defend" colin and said i don't even like him myself. I'm just amazed at the people in this thread just lapping up what bob says and giving him a free pass for his own toxic behavior.

I read your post and it read like "I'm not defending Colin BUT everyone should know how Bob's conduct totally in some form or some way attracted the natural consequence of Colin sending his following on him, something something. Both sides share the blame in this". Basically trying very hard to make it seem like Bob is bad in a way like Colin.
And it's hard to really think that had any other purpose than somehow justifying what Colin did.
And that is total nonsense again cause harassment is in no form equal to talking shit on twitter on someone.

Also wanna be clear I'm not even a fan of retronauts never listened to it. I just know cause it's very easy follow the drama that Colin attracts and the way he handled this one is disgusting as heck.
 

Alucrid

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Oct 25, 2017
11,426
You'll also notice that DrMario has 4 total posts in the Easy Allies OT. One to promote his love and respect, and then 3 in this thread to talk about bobservo. He joined October 27, has never posted about a podcast or favorite EZA bets, or anything like that. No evidence that he cares at all about this thread. Except of course when bobservo gets brought up, and suddenly he's here and talkative.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
9,155
You'll also notice that DrMario has 4 total posts in the Easy Allies OT. One to promote his love and respect, and then 3 in this thread to talk about bobservo. He joined October 27, has never posted about a podcast or favorite EZA bets, or anything like that. No evidence that he cares at all about this thread. Except of course when bobservo gets brought up, and suddenly he's here and talkative.
the irony x)
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
No, I'm not defending colin sending his followers after bob. That's obviously a crappy thing to do. I'm just trying to caution people in this thread to not take everything bob says st face value, since he shares plenty of the blame for that whole situation. And to just note it is bob who seeks out Colin's info to continue their battle (despite colin blocking him) and it's bob who seemingly only wants his resetera account for the purposes of continuing his colin feud.

That's not defending colin. That's saying let's just ignore BOTH of these guys and move forward.

And i never said they were "equivalent" but what bob does is absolutely harassment.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
9,155
No, I'm not defending colin sending his followers after bob. That's obviously a crappy thing to do. I'm just trying to caution people in this thread to not take everything bob says st face value, since he shares plenty of the blame for that whole situation. And to just note it is bob who seeks out Colin's info to continue their battle (despite colin blocking him) and it's bob who seemingly only wants his resetera account for the purposes of continuing his colin feud.

That's not defending colin. That's saying let's just ignore BOTH of these guys and move forward.

And i never said they were "equivalent" but what bob does is absolutely harassment.
In what way does he share the blame of getting harassed by Colin's following. You say you don't defend it but then you say shit like this?
What am I supposed to think? Can you at least see how weird this is from my perspective? I'm going to dial back here and assume that there is some massive misunderstanding on my part here and let you try again.

Also how is that harassment did bob ever spam colin directly? Are you really trying to make the case that when I tweet out x person is shitty for holding y views that's harassment?
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
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You'll also notice that DrMario has 4 total posts in the Easy Allies OT. One to promote his love and respect, and then 3 in this thread to talk about bobservo. He joined October 27, has never posted about a podcast or favorite EZA bets, or anything like that. No evidence that he cares at all about this thread. Except of course when bobservo gets brought up, and suddenly he's here and talkative.


But to be clear, i do have other actual posts on this site, so i not? I interact with EZA fans mostly in the Facebook group.

Funny enough, i actually came into this thread to talk about how much i enjoyed the discussion of noct vs. tmnt reveals. But then felt compelled to weigh in on you guys treating bob and his opinions as totally normal.
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
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In what way does he share the blame of getting harassed by Colin's following. You say you don't defend it but then you say shit like this?
What am I supposed to think? Can you at least see how weird this is from my perspective? I'm going to dial back here and assume that there is some massive misunderstanding on my part here and let you try again.


Is this a serious post? How does bob share the blame? Because of incessantly shit talking colin on twitter, and now apparently resetera. He could just move on, stop searching Colin's tweets from a dummy twitter account, and focus on what he enjoys.

Or do you guys really think it's completely normal to evade a twitter block with a fake account for the purposes of shit talking?
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is this a serious post? How does bob share the blame? Because of incessantly shit talking colin on twitter, and now apparently resetera. He could just move on, stop searching Colin's tweets from a dummy twitter account, and focus on what he enjoys.

Or do you guys really think it's completely normal to evade a twitter block with a fake account for the purposes of shit talking?
Oh so now you do think bob deserved getting harassed? cool.
 

Alucrid

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Oct 25, 2017
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you did suggest that someone with a bit of an axe to grind is less deserving of love and respect than someone who uses the model minority stereotype to dismiss the very real discrimination that minorities face

here's the thing. i don't follow either of them on twitter, but when i do see him pop up it's usually about colin. but why? it seems less like some severe infatuation like you and colin suggest and more that colin does a lot of dumb shit that makes it into the larger gaming sphere such that, even if he's blocked you on twitter, it's very easy to find out about. i mean when he's "talking shit" on twitter i was probably "talking shit" a forum without even having the decency to, gasp, address him directly. (doesn't help that he ran away from the forum). so from what i gather it seems like he's less of a stalker and more of someone with a chip on his shoulder. which i can see why when someone tries to lord a donation to charity over your head for a debate or publicly announce that you're mentally ill on twitter. but hey, you know that he has a dummy account to purposefully search out threads about colin on twitter so maybe you could provide me proof that he does have an unhealthy obsession? i guess you're a doctor too so maybe you can verify his mental health as well?
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
I already stated i thought it was ridiculous for
Colin to send his twitter army after bob. Don't know how many other ways I'm supposed to say that.

But i ALSO think the bob could just move on.

And you're still going to refuse to answer whether you think it's normal behavior to evade a twitter block for the sole purpose of perpetuating a twitter feud?
 

TheDarkKnight

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Oct 25, 2017
7,530
Honestly I don't know who is right or wrong in some beef that was in the past and frankly doesn't involve EZA. I also really don't care enough about it to look into it. My interest in coming to this thread is to discuss things related EZA. It doesn't affect my previous stances regarding Colin associating with EZA (which was already no) and if you guys want to take that topic elsewhere I'd appreciate it.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
9,155
Now you're just being ridiculous.
How? I don't know what you're saying 1 time you say you're not equaling what Colin did to what bob did. Then I ask you how he shares the blame in getting harassed. Then you quote his action again. How am I supposed to interpret this.

If you were a decent person you'd just block and ignore him and at most tell your following that him doing that shit will only reflect bad at himself there was never ever a need to out him to your giant following. The same goes for the EZA member that had to close off his twitter.
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My base point here is 1 bad doesn't make another bad ok. Especially when the other bad is disproportional to the other.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Mario + Rabbids is $30 at Walmart. Is it worth it for me to go ahead and buy it despite the fact that I probably won't get around to playing it for a couple of months? I guess the question is, because it's a Ubisoft game, I'm expecting it to fall in price later down the line as opposed to if it was a Nintendo game. Am I wrong in that line of thought?
 

Hasney

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,625
Mario + Rabbids is $30 at Walmart. Is it worth it for me to go ahead and buy it despite the fact that I probably won't get around to playing it for a couple of months? I guess the question is, because it's a Ubisoft game, I'm expecting it to fall in price later down the line as opposed to if it was a Nintendo game. Am I wrong in that line of thought?

It's hard to say. Even Bomberman R has been hard to find below $30.
 

TheDarkKnight

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Oct 25, 2017
7,530
Mario + Rabbids is $30 at Walmart. Is it worth it for me to go ahead and buy it despite the fact that I probably won't get around to playing it for a couple of months? I guess the question is, because it's a Ubisoft game, I'm expecting it to fall in price later down the line as opposed to if it was a Nintendo game. Am I wrong in that line of thought?
Honestly I don't know. I'm not sure how things will play out with non Nintendo Switch game pricing so far. I would guess that it could get cheaper in a year, but maybe not as cheap as 30 in 6 months?
 

DrMario

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Oct 27, 2017
242
If you think me saying "Bob also does toxic things that perpetuates their feud" is equivalent to saying "he deserves to be harassed by Colin's twitter army", that's a ridiculous notion and clearly not getting us anywhere. Not sure if you're purposely being difficult or what, but those are clearly two completely different things. But I'm gonna move on.
 
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Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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DrMario I think we got off of the wrong foot, I'm sorry. I think maybe you know something about bob that I don't the most I've seen is bob retweeting the dumb stuff Colin says and rigging on it like the model minority thing. Maybe you can share something bob said that would make your point clearer about him being a questionable character of his own. Basically what are the statements that made you feel that Bob shares blame in getting harassed.
 

ZeroNoir_

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Oct 25, 2017
3,727
Mario + Rabbids is $30 at Walmart. Is it worth it for me to go ahead and buy it despite the fact that I probably won't get around to playing it for a couple of months? I guess the question is, because it's a Ubisoft game, I'm expecting it to fall in price later down the line as opposed to if it was a Nintendo game. Am I wrong in that line of thought?

I wish I was in the US. DAMN
 
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