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Which character are you playing as??

  • Kassandra

    Votes: 1,964 77.7%
  • Alexios

    Votes: 565 22.3%

  • Total voters
    2,529

FunkyMonkey

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,419
just started origins for the first time and it's hard to not jump to this before I finish it. but I am LOVING origins so far. sad I slept on it
 

Darkstorne

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,813
England
Photo mode is going to be just as addictive as Origins was!

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Lukar

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 27, 2017
23,352
Has been unpacking for half an hour now for me. Does it always take that long?
Steam preorders are notorious for taking a long time to unlock. If you have a good connection, you're usually better off just downloading the game after it's unlocked rather than preloading it beforehand.
 

Deleted member 3897

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,638
Has been unpacking for half an hour now for me. Does it always take that long?

Yep, did it on a SSD for once, Takes hours for me on a standard HDD.

Steam preorders are notorious for taking a long time to unlock. If you have a good connection, you're usually better off just downloading the game after it's unlocked rather than preloading it beforehand.

Pretty much. If you download to a HDD you are better off just downloading the game after it releases. Pre-loading and unpacking is meant more when you go it on a SSD.
 

Enduin

You look 40
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,470
New York
Played for a few hours last night and it was a really great time. I just finished up the Origins DLC over the weekend so how that game operates and plays is really fresh in my mind and the difference gameplay wise is very apparent. Odyssey is noticeably more refined and smoother with a lot of small improvements that I know will go a long way with such a large game. It really feels like a big upgrade in terms of character controls, movement, combat and so on.

Performance has been on par with Origins or better as well for me as well which is great. I've had a rock solid 60 FPS at 1080p, ultra everything, Borderless no Vsync and scaled to 120% on a 1080ti, i7 5820 @ 4.4ghz and 16GB RAM. Latest Nvidia Drivers. Maybe with some luck some patches can let me push it to 140% scaled, which I could never really do reliably in Origins.

I've enjoyed the vibe so far, character models seem a lot more detailed, better animations. Writing a whole lot more engaging and you get a better sense of Kassandra, her relationships and life on the island. The whole dialogue choice stuff seems a bit hit and miss though so far. Not bad, but not really adding a whole lot. I met Odessa and the responses to my choices felt off from what I thought they'd be. Otherwise the game has been reasonably challenging and definitely makes me approach things differently than I did in Origins. Playing on Hard w/ minimal HUD and Exploration Mode has been fun. Not really convinced by Exploration Mode so far though. Doesn't feel any different from going Minimal/No HUD in Origins, but we'll see how things go as things progress. Look and feel of Kephallonia has been great too. Can't wait to see more of the world.
 

Lucifonz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,132
United Kingdom
Disappointed to see the audio quality throughout the game is still terrible, much like Origins. It's as if the game's audio is all recorded at a low bitrate. Just sounds muddy.

Probably won't bother most or even be noticable to some due to being pretty dependent on your sensitivity to it / audio setup.
 

Dphex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,811
Cologne, Germany
Disappointed to see the audio quality throughout the game is still terrible, much like Origins. It's as if the game's audio is all recorded at a low bitrate. Just sounds muddy.

Probably won't bother most or even be noticable to some due to being pretty dependent on your sensitivity to it / audio setup.

audio quality in Origins was indeed bad, for everyone with sensitive hearing it was a disgrace, it sounded like phoned in on an old telephone, super muffled.

sad to hear it is the same in the new game...
 

Enduin

You look 40
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,470
New York
Godbless Uplay for no stupid unpacking like Steam. I only realized you could VPN the game early last night at 9 and after a quick install and switch over to Australia via Tunnelbear VPN and I was in the game by 910.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,289
The people complaining about "grind" seem like people who have an even harder time adjusting to this series becoming a "RPG" than even I have. I don't remember grinding for anything in Origins. These people probably want to skip the majority of the content and just go from mission to mission and are mad they can't do that, but as someone who leans more on the completionist side I end up never seeing a level gate.
 

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,071


For those who don;t like to grind...


There is absoluely *no need* to make that purchase.

Even without XP boosts, simply doing missions, raiding forts and taking out mercenaries will give you enough XP to reach level 10 in less than 10 hrs. You don't need to go out of your way to take missions either. Any new town or settlement you enter, check the requests board. Or in general each town as 3, 4 side missions in themselves.

A really easy way to get more XP is to stealth chain kills. Stealth kills give you more XP than fighting in general and chains stack and add more.
 

CopperPuppy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,636
The people complaining about "grind" seem like people who have an even harder time adjusting to this series becoming a "RPG" than even I have. I don't remember grinding for anything in Origins. These people probably want to skip the majority of the content and just go from mission to mission and are mad they can't do that, but as someone who leans more on the completionist side I end up never seeing a level gate.
Yeah, no one would call me a completionist and I never had to grind in Origins.
 

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,071
Also, for anyone worried. Quests give you XP scaled to your level, so you wont be getting 200XP only when doing random missions at level 40. You'll get appropriately tagged amount of XP (for example, by the level cap, I was getting 20~30k XP per mission).

Another great way to get quick XP is to do the conquest missions. They reward you with a metric TON of xp and great loot.
 

sredgrin

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
12,276
You can buy the XP and gold boosts (for 2 hours) with Uplay club points if you feel so tempted by them anyway. At least on PC, not sure how it is integrated on consoles.
 

matimeo

UI/UX Game Industry Veteran
Verified
Oct 26, 2017
979
The people complaining about "grind" seem like people who have an even harder time adjusting to this series becoming a "RPG" than even I have. I don't remember grinding for anything in Origins. These people probably want to skip the majority of the content and just go from mission to mission and are mad they can't do that, but as someone who leans more on the completionist side I end up never seeing a level gate.

I don't know about that. I love to complete side things which is why I rarely finish games like this but with Origins I felt the gating. First time in an Assassin Creed game I felt it so early on and immediately felt it was by design. Even just exploring I felt the gating with how much stronger enemies were in other areas. Reminded me of how Destiny would gate your exploration with enemies that had the red question mark on their heads to denote they were super high level and you didn't belong there yet.

With the Witcher 3 I never really felt that although it's been awhile since I played.
 

Blackthorn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,315
London
The people complaining about "grind" seem like people who have an even harder time adjusting to this series becoming a "RPG" than even I have. I don't remember grinding for anything in Origins. These people probably want to skip the majority of the content and just go from mission to mission and are mad they can't do that, but as someone who leans more on the completionist side I end up never seeing a level gate.
Yeah I don't get it, I spent all of Origins significantly overlevelled and was relieved when they patched in an option for level scaling. It was the same for me in TW3, and basically any level-based RPG I've ever played.

I think it's an inherent issue with the conditions in which reviewers play a game versus players. I don't have a deadline to hit and will hoover up all quests as they're presented to me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,695
I don't know about that. I love to complete side things which is why I rarely finish games like this but with Origins I felt the gating. First time in an Assassin Creed game I felt it so early on and immediately felt it was by design. Even just exploring I felt the gating with how much stronger enemies were in other areas. Reminded me of how Destiny would gate your exploration with enemies that had the red question mark on their heads to denote they were super high level and you didn't belong there yet.

With the Witcher 3 I never really felt that although it's been awhile since I played.
TW3 handled this by having the main quests hand out enormous amounts of xp. The downside to this is that you would quickly be overleveled and xp rewards for all other quests would scale down and pretty soon you were just getting 10 xp for doing a hunt or something and it felt kinda shitty. It worked for just completing the story but was awkward for everything else.
 

spacer

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,959
no that story is long burried, and the modern stuff is barely in the game these days. Origin had like... 20 minutes overall of modern stuff in the 100 hours or whatever it took to do everything.
Hmm, that's a shame. The modern story with Minerva and the solar flares or whatever was the most interesting part of the whole series in my opinion.

How have they explained why mythological creatures are in this new game?
 

dex3108

Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,577
I felt gating in Origins too. Sometimes i was in the mood to do just the story and i had to do few side missions to progress. Just because some of you have time or enjoy side content doesn't mean that everybody else has. Also if sidequests weren't so boring and without same mission structure maybe i would enjoy playing them more. That is why making XP boost in Odyssey kinda feels wrong.
 

Enduin

You look 40
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,470
New York
I'm the type of person that explores every location before doing any main mission, which resulted in me revisiting areas I already cleared out a while ago in Origins and never having to deal with mission gating. I always exhausted every side quest before moving on in the main story.

Did the same exact thing last night on Odyssey, Did the main mission up to getting my Bow and then I explored both islands and went to every single ? on the map before moving on and starting the main mission w/ Cyclops stuff. It definitely undermines certain main missions, but I can't help it.
 

nrtn

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,562
I felt gating in Origins too. Sometimes i was in the mood to do just the story and i had to do few side missions to progress. Just because some of you have time or enjoy side content doesn't mean that everybody else has. Also if sidequests weren't so boring and without same mission structure maybe i would enjoy playing them more. That is why making XP boost in Odyssey kinda feels wrong.
Yeah, I had to keep doing some too yesterday cuz I was lvl 33 and the main quest was lvl 35.

Good thing though exploring the map is amazing because of the graphics and differente landscapes and atmospheres.

I had a good time exploring.
 

thedas

Member
Jul 25, 2018
488
I'm the type of person that explores every location before doing any main mission, which resulted in me revisiting areas I already cleared out a while ago in Origins and never having to deal with mission gating. I always exhausted every side quest before moving on in the main story.

Did the same exact thing last night on Odyssey, Did the main mission up to getting my Bow and then I explored both islands and went to every single ? on the map before moving on and starting the main mission w/ Cyclops stuff. It definitely undermines certain main missions, but I can't help it.
Same, I cleared the Cyclops lair twice. I wonder if I can ignore the main quest and just do all the points of interest of the map when I'll get the boat.
 

WadeIt0ut

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,985
Iowa
Is legit. Considering how much i loved Origins, i'm really looking forward to a refined version of Origins in Ancient Greece. Although Goty is a very hard spot to gain this year.

A lot of it is just my personal preferences on genres. I love action RPGs and I will like a good open world action RPG more than any other genre.

Forza Horizon 4 - Very good so far but I don't think I can ever make a racing game my GOTY.
Spider-man - Didn't enjoy it as much as some. Found NYC and the general atmosphere boring compared to other Insomniac games.
God of War - Loved it but it was way more claustrophobic and guided.

Red Dead has a chance but I it will be hard to make me enjoy the old west more than the Greek world in this game.
 

Blackthorn

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,315
London
Doesn't seem to be an option. You get the onscreen prompt for the eagle as soon as you are close and I'm not sure if will go away until you give in and use it.



Initially, yeah. When you get a quest you can ask questions about where to go. Your quest log will update based on the answers. So you will get directions like "It's in the sunken ruins near the Islet of Zeus to the south of ...".

Another time I got updates depending on investigating the area. So the the first update was "To the west of the lumberyard" after examining some tracks from a wagon. Then, when Kassandra determined it was a heavy load and they couldn't have gone far, the directions updated to "To the west of the lumberyard and no more than 250m away."

The big problem is, as noted above, as soon as you are within 200m of the location you get a prompt to use the eagle to pinpoint the location.

I initially thought that Exploration Mode might have been a late addition to the game but the amount of unique dialogue recorded makes it clear that it was a decision made pretty early on. It's just a shame that they couldn't trust you to find the location when get close.
I found a sort-of solution to this. If you turn off hints in the HUD settings you no longer get the prompt to use the eagle.
 

Orb

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,465
USA
The scope of this game actually seems overwhelming to me, in a negative way. And I didn't even really like Origins very much. Maybe I'll get around to it eventually, but I have a few backlog things I want to clear out, and Red Dead is fast approaching...
 

CrichtonKicks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,183
I don't know about that. I love to complete side things which is why I rarely finish games like this but with Origins I felt the gating. First time in an Assassin Creed game I felt it so early on and immediately felt it was by design. Even just exploring I felt the gating with how much stronger enemies were in other areas. Reminded me of how Destiny would gate your exploration with enemies that had the red question mark on their heads to denote they were super high level and you didn't belong there yet.

With the Witcher 3 I never really felt that although it's been awhile since I played.

TW3 was balanced so that main quests gave out enormous XP while side quests gave out a pittance.

I found a sort-of solution to this. If you turn off hints in the HUD settings you no longer get the prompt to use the eagle.

That's good to know. I usually leave hints on while learning new gameplay mechanics.