Again, go look at the actual data. I posted the link, so you can dispute that all you want.
https://www.smartcompany.com.au/technology/top-global-tech-leaders-world-revealed/
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Google's Project Stream Showcases Assassin’s Creed Odyssey Gameplay
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https://www.smartcompany.com.au/technology/top-global-tech-leaders-world-revealed/
Way off topic here, but there's nothing definitive in that story. It's just a subjective ranking based on arbitrary criteria and arbitrary weighting, like any magazine's Best Place to Live or any website's Game of the Year.
you're not the only one with access to the internet
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-are-the-world-s-largest-technology-companies.html
https://www.trendrr.net/8626/largest-tech-companies-world-famous-it-software-richest/
https://www.google.pt/amp/s/www.for...-largest-tech-companies-2018-global-2000/amp/
https://financesonline.com/top-10-richest-companies-in-the-world-in-2018-by-revenue/
I mean, open both their pages in wikipedia, compare the actual financial data and argue all you want, thems the facts
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yeah, powerful is subjective and i dont even understand what it really means, richest i can understand
And is also aimed to that one that don't want lose their time talking about differences of 400 pixels ....
Let try to explain this to era...lol
The first who will be scared are Nintendo and Sony but mostly Sony ..meanwhile nintendo fan base dosnt care about third party games mostly.....sony..is the only one without any infrastructure in the cloud computing (I'm talking about serious stuff...like data centers to can compete with Google , Ms or Amazon in future...not..gaikai)
...one thing is sure the time of local computing for gaming is arriving to an end if isnt now it will happenen In the next 10/15 years
I disagree with this completely. as long as there is any form of noticeable input lag / latency etc it will never replace local computing for gaming
We said powerful, not rich. Maybe you need to read the context before jumping in.
There is a definite use for streaming and as long as there remains an option to use physical hardware and also have a physical copy or digital copy then I have no problem at with them going in this direction as well.
if this ends up becoming a netflix-esq streaming library for games, I'm all for it. Signed up for the beta, will really curious how well it'll work
That's how i'm seeing this streaming stuff too. I could see it working with some kind of games of course.
But you're not going to basically move the machine that's running the game you're playing hundreds of kilometers away from you without any ripercussion.
Imput lag can't be solved, it's phisical.
In big cities and major centres, it won't be hundreds of kilometres away. More like 30-40 for outer suburbs. This won't be a ubiquitous solution suitable for everyone but there's certainly a large enough potential market for it.
So basically Google is trying to do the same thing Sony is doing with PSNOW? (and that other services tried in the past years)
Despites that Sony now is adding the Download option...
I think Streaming games is an interesting solution, you basically just need a "browser".
Would love to try it.
Despites that Sony now is adding the Download option...
I think Streaming games is an interesting solution, you basically just need a "browser".
Would love to try it.
Everyone in the industry knows that. That's why Sony bought Gaikai way back when and keep operating PS Now even though I doubt it's overly profitable at this point.
I remember doing this with Gaikai many years ago, straight from their website. Witcher 2 ran extremely well even with my slow internet connection in the Philippines (2mbps?)
My biggest issue with this is that films on Netflix (and other streaming services) are regularly pulled from the service. I was half way through Wolf Hall on Netflix before it was removed from the service.
That's not a future I want to be part of for gaming. At least now nobody can remove my games. I have them for life. With streaming I'm paying a monthly fee to rent the games. Cool tech, but not for me.
I don't understand the folks who hate on streaming. It's a great solution to translate high end gaming down to low end devices. AAA shouldn't be walled off from folks who can't afford to drop $600 on a GPU. Streaming opens up the possibility of mobile play, and allows casual players a visual standard normally reserved for enthusiasts. Improving streaming solutions is nothing but a good thing.
It's so strange to see the repeated negativity toward changes in the gaming space. Is it that hard to look at the landscape and see opportunity instead of an assault on what you hold dear?
It's so strange to see the repeated negativity toward changes in the gaming space. Is it that hard to look at the landscape and see opportunity instead of an assault on what you hold dear?
Because of PS Now, which is most people's only experience (including my own).
PS Now is fucking abysmal. It's incredibly laggy, has dreadful 720p image quality with artefact and framepacing issues, and it's janky as hell and takes forever to actually start a game.
I haven't tried Geforce Now because it's still closed beta (unless you own a Shield TV) but from what I hear it's a far slicker experience.
But whilst I have an interest in the technology, I have no interest in playing games that way. One of the beauties of videogames is that we get wonderfully uncompressed video on our TV. As a high bitrate and IQ whore who is input lag intolerant, game streaming is only going to be the stuff of nightmares for me.
I also think much of the hate comes from the concern that this could replace consoles, rather than be an additional option. It's like the fear of casual gaming success, or VR success. It triggers people in to worrying that it'll replace what they already know and love. Personally, I don't see this happening. Switch has shown what is becoming possible at low power small form factors - if anything we'll soon be getting to a point of further diminishing returns, where a low priced, low power and single APU will provide all the 4K gaming goodness we need. No streaming required.
1. Tops out at 1080p, typically 30fps(60 in some cases). How does that look on your new 43", $350, 4K TV?
2. Inconsistent quality (hitching/artifacting) and latency.
3. Can't play without a connection.
4. Scaling in the data center for peak is a huge issue.
Remember when the Xbox One launched and the world melted because it was going to require an always on network connection? Cloud is not just an always on connection, it's a fast enough connection as well. Oh, and nothing on planes, trains, public WiFi, etc. There is a place for cloud gaming in the mix of game options, but not as a replacement of console/local and/or not for a very long time.
2. Inconsistent quality (hitching/artifacting) and latency.
3. Can't play without a connection.
4. Scaling in the data center for peak is a huge issue.
Remember when the Xbox One launched and the world melted because it was going to require an always on network connection? Cloud is not just an always on connection, it's a fast enough connection as well. Oh, and nothing on planes, trains, public WiFi, etc. There is a place for cloud gaming in the mix of game options, but not as a replacement of console/local and/or not for a very long time.
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that will be less and less the case as GAAS takes over more of the market however :/ As someone who generally buys physical whenever possible its something I've learned to accept.
lol, how do you define "powerful"? seems like a random atribute to me. i define power by money as we live in a capitalist world, so, not only apple but also samsung are richer, thus more powerful than microsoft to me
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Man i can see it already. This being bundled with google fiber is going to be a game changer.
*Where google fiber is available*
This is just like the whole aversion to 'all digital' all over again on enthusiast forums. Now everyone is all for 'all digital' and streaming is the enemy. Once MS and Sony jump on board I'm sure opinions will change.
By GAAS, do you mean a future where we don't buy games in physical form or purchase and download digitally, but pay a monthly fee to stream a game?
Nah. Can't see that future at all. We live in a world of Netflix and Spotify, but I can still buy a film on Blu-ray, or even buy my music on vinyl. Physical games will still be here for a very long time.
If gaming was streaming only then I'd give up gaming.
Not everyone in the US is capped. My 100MB/s service does not have a data cape attached to it at all.
Games as a service where you need persistent online access for them to function.
Kinda shocked by the lack of responses in this topic. If this test really works well, the gaming landscape we know could really change. Google has the funds, the technology and the brand power to make a huge difference. More than Microsoft back in the early 2000's.
Yea the game looks good (1080p eh). But graphics were never the "issue" with streaming services. Latency is.
I highly doubt this will be a huge deal due to this. Unless they solve the latency issue with streaming, there is no way this will take off over traditional hardware. EVER.
I highly doubt this will be a huge deal due to this. Unless they solve the latency issue with streaming, there is no way this will take off over traditional hardware. EVER.
Just received one as well. The NDA has me vexxed, though.
Because right now this isn't anything more than Geforce Now etc. We don't know anything about Google's long term plans with this, whether it's being treated as a side project or a major pillar of the future company. And of course Google is ultimately an advertising company, and we have no idea how that fits in here either. Will they have first party studios and exclusives? Will it just use a Bluetooth controller with a Chromecast for playing on your TV, or a more dedicated device? There are plenty of rumours but very little known about how serious Google actually is about this.
Personally I think the company to be successful in the cloud will be the one that integrates it seamlessly with the dedicated box. Eg PS Now is currently a bubble - you can't play your existing PS4 library in the cloud using the service (you'd need to set up remote play and do it that way). What Sony needs to do is remove that bubble and basically have your PS4/PSN fully mirrored truly in the cloud, all your games, apps etc, so you can continue where you left off on other devices, and then come back to your console and continue further, without needing to leave your PS4 on for remote play. PS Now needs to stop being a separate bubble, and it also needs to work properly, have more server locations to reduce latency and higher resolutions. Then you have a PSN you can take with you everywhere and games you can play anywhere on any device. But crucially you still have your console at home for the ultimate experience.
I got in, and if I read this correctly, I can pretty much play the whole game for free?
On another note it natively reads my Dualshock 4 wired up which is nice.
On another note it natively reads my Dualshock 4 wired up which is nice.
While that is great for you, caps are only going to become more common going forward. Couple that with net neutrality being axed and I can see these being barriers to our streaming future. That 100MB/s connection will mean nothing if you're getting throttled by your ISP on certain services.
Got in, initial impression pretty good. It was maxing the recommended speed, need to check how much of our 1TB cap we're consuming before I go hog wild testing this out
DEFINITELY gonna test it out at school between lecture and lab though, should be a fun time waster
DEFINITELY gonna test it out at school between lecture and lab though, should be a fun time waster
Damn. No invite here, at least not yet. I was looking forward to trying it out on my university's fast network
My internet is as follows. I'm connected via LAN:
There were times that it was running decently smooth, and times that it really started to chug along and drop frames. The game was okay, I personally don't care for Assassin's Creed too much, but the opportunity to try new tech and leave feedback on it is always fun for me.
For a first attempt at this I'm impressed while being about what I expected, and I can see this being pretty good in the end with some more optimizations. Just imagine whipping out your cheap Chromebook and playing AAA games from a browser.
I'm curious to see how those who may have worse internet than me fare, and how the impressions from here turn out.
My internet is as follows. I'm connected via LAN:
There were times that it was running decently smooth, and times that it really started to chug along and drop frames. The game was okay, I personally don't care for Assassin's Creed too much, but the opportunity to try new tech and leave feedback on it is always fun for me.
For a first attempt at this I'm impressed while being about what I expected, and I can see this being pretty good in the end with some more optimizations. Just imagine whipping out your cheap Chromebook and playing AAA games from a browser.
I'm curious to see how those who may have worse internet than me fare, and how the impressions from here turn out.
How was the input lag?