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Sony as a Publisher is on a roll and this is probably their best year. What changed?
- Thread starter Toriko
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Sony should just bring a lot of their unused IP to VR. Not only VR games didn't have expectation for AAA graphic fidelity, so they cost cheaper to make than AAA games. Their audience are hungry for meatier VR games and they're more open minded to try games in various genres.
Warhawk VR, Ape Escape VR, Jumping Flash VR, Omega Boost VR.
Hell, give me Twisted Metal VR as well. The ability to decouple your head view to aim weapons from driving the car would be welcome addition to Twisted Metal imo, you no longer have to line up enemy's car to the front of your car to shoot them.
Facts. The PS2 era was really the time where it all started. I mean in the PS1 you had Ape Escape, Syphon Filter, etc but it was a whole lot of 3rd Parties as well.
With the PS2, that's where a lot of the output from 1st Party was beginning to show with games like:
Jak & Daxter
God Of War
Twisted Metal Black
Ico and Shadow Of The Colossus
Ratchet & Clank
SOCOM
Sly Cooper
Siren
Mark Of Kri
Primal
Dark Cloud
Killzone
The Getaway
And so many more
That era was really the foundation period and it kept expanding ever since.
There is plenty of multiplayer stuff coming from third parties.
Quality single player AAA experiences on the other hand are becoming more and more rare.
It's very very unfortunate that The Order 1886 didn't take off... : (
I love the concept, ideas, setting, characters, etc.
I love the concept, ideas, setting, characters, etc.
The games finally came out lol. We'll probably say the same thing if Days Gone, Death Stranding, & The Last of Us Part II comes out in the same year.
In terms of commercial success, yeah this year is probably one of their most successful where first-party titles are concerned.
But in terms of well-recieved exclusives, Sony were pumping out quality titles as far back as the PS1 days. Those games just tend to get overlooked because, apart from Gran Turismo, they didn't define the system nearly as much as the big third-party franchises like Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Tomb Raider did.
But in terms of well-recieved exclusives, Sony were pumping out quality titles as far back as the PS1 days. Those games just tend to get overlooked because, apart from Gran Turismo, they didn't define the system nearly as much as the big third-party franchises like Final Fantasy, Resident Evil and Tomb Raider did.
Sony's first party publishing efforts have always been strong and they've put enough investment and care into ensuring strong and organic growth into their studios - instead of trying to expand them too quickly - while fostering an excellent culture of cooperation and knowledge/tech sharing among the first party dev house amd exclusive third party studios.
They've also made some regrettable, albeit necessary decisions to close some studios that were underperforming in order to trim the fat and elevate the profile of the rest.
Their studio management is top notch, they understand games development and they focus on their core strengths as a publisher. That's why they're more successful than ever.
They've also made some regrettable, albeit necessary decisions to close some studios that were underperforming in order to trim the fat and elevate the profile of the rest.
Their studio management is top notch, they understand games development and they focus on their core strengths as a publisher. That's why they're more successful than ever.
Driveclub was not a miss - it sold well unfortunately it had online/technical issues at launch that impacted the reviews. (sorry its my all time fav racer! I am very defensive of it.)
Yeah like I said a fan base willing to put up with mediocrity. Imo the games I mentioned...those were the only games worth playing at the time. (Even had to download DCU ONLINE again) Remember how we had to sit through remasters? What changed with Sony is it took time for these games to be made, for these studios to grow and finally release their games. They were staggered perfectly once they released.
Driveclub was great. And their output has been pretty solid throughout the gen with Bloodborne/Uncharted etc. PS3 was fantastic too. Not sure what OP means by what changed. They just had more hits at one small time frame I suppose, but I always felt their output was pretty strong overall.
Even their misses are popular enough among a lot of people. DC especially.
Also, to me this topic is incoherent. Sony has literally been on a roll for years. You don't just start doing well in 2018 with 80m consoles lol. I mean if you are going back to the start of PS3 gen lol. But that's like a decade ago.
Yeah, easily. This topic is pretty dated. If this came out 7 years ago I would not blink lol.
DriveClub is unarguably one of the best racing games of all time. It had a bit of a rough start with the online portion but they fixed that and polished the game to near perfection (great DLC model helped too).
Can't agree more! Driveclub has a learning curve and is rather challenging compared to Forza Horizon, PGR and NFS, but it's an amazing game. Winning the most difficult events is incredibly rewarding.
LOL.....
Maybe because Sony has good 1st party devs and is giving them enough time ?
But how many of those released within a year's period and how many scored 85+?
Why? Almost everyone else is doing just that. What would be the point?
The only thing i find lacking is Japan Studio's output. Apart from the collaborations, all we've got was Knack and Gravity Rush.
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Yeah, I feel like they should give that a try as well while still pumping the SP games. Even a game like Horizon 2 could have some balling Monster Hunter co-op missions or Colosseum type fighting with dinos running about. Naughty Dog will continue making them thankfully, the new San Diego team is likely to incorporate it if it's an Uncharted reboot.
Add co-op 1v1 in Horizon 2, Uncharted with MP, Naughty Dog games. Get AAA level talent to work Crash Team Racing, All Stars Reboot in 3D, Soccom FTP in the vain of Counterstrike for PC, and a proper FPS or TPS whose focus is multiplayer, maybe from GG's second team.
If the PS5 sells anywhere as well, you pretty much have Spiderman 2, Horizon 2, new Uncharted all coming within the first year if it's released in 2020. Shit is crazy. I'm curious to see if Spiderman and TLOU Part II hit 15 million this generation though. TLOU 2 likely will because it will sell on the PS5 like the original game.
Because outside of the era bubble, people love playing more MP games.
It's not luck at all. They have been publishing quality diverse titles since PS1/PS2 days.
They consistently grow each gen, sure there are bumps along the way and shitty things like closures in video games happen even to talented studios. But out of those failures also come better management of assets for other studios as they learn from closing that studio what games they should be making.
Driveclub had a rough launch, but got better as time went on. And I think ultimately told Sony that have one dedicated studio for racing games is enough since there are so many of them and so many failed studios that make them. The same I guess can be for shooters, Xbox surpassed them a long time ago in this arena. And there are so many third party shooters that having another one even if super well made and unique is hard to carve a niche.
They seem to have found what they are good at which is well made single player games. And unique smaller indie titles, along with Japanese developed/published games.
I would like for them to make another shooter either through a reboot or remake of Resistance, or a new IP that isn't killzone by Guerrilla. But I'm totally fine with what they have been making slate wise. If I want some online shooter there's tons choose from.
Same goes for racing games, now that forza is on PC makes it even harder to care about anything outside of Gran Turismo on Playstation, even though I own driveclub.
They have had more wins than misses. And it sucks that those misses ended up closing some of the studios.
They give their devs the time and the money to make what they want. No other publisher would ever take the kind of risk that Sony did with God of War for example.
And they garner a lot of goodwill by not stuffing their singleplayer games with fucking microtransactions *cough*Ubisoft*cough*.
And they garner a lot of goodwill by not stuffing their singleplayer games with fucking microtransactions *cough*Ubisoft*cough*.
In terms of Diversity and what those games offer? Yea. Show a lineup as that diverse in 2018 by Nintendo and Xbox?
Spiderman, Detroit, God of war, MLB the show, Shadow of the collossus, astro bot VR, Firewall:zero hour,
Ok but when you have an entire industry already catering to that, with several successful studios whose specialty is precisely that, and dozens of games already falling by the wayside due to market saturation, why would Sony insert themselves into that market when their strengths clearly lie elsewhere and they are obviously being successful at what they're doing?
it's not like there's a dearth of multiplayer content out there already for people to play.
And they got enough from western 3rds...
But western SP games becomes less and less.
So I am very Sony delivers great SP stuff !
And you have almost every single studio that Sony has catering to SP games. Nothing wrong with a few taking a shot at MP, if they want to and have a great idea for it. No one said it's the death of MP games, stop overreacting.
Though they should bring back Warhawk. It's a unique experience that I think would be received well with a modern engine and modern controls (but keeping the gameplay the same, including picking up weapons and only spawning with a knife and pistol).
Sony was way more prolific in the past, many may conveniently belittle their output past gen, but they really had quite a lot of releases in most years, between PS3 and PSP during the whole generation.
Considering God of Wars, Detroid and even Spiderman were shown for years and several times, the same with the presumedly 2019 releases of Days Gone and Dreams, they really managed to stretch their actual hand this generation.
Considering God of Wars, Detroid and even Spiderman were shown for years and several times, the same with the presumedly 2019 releases of Days Gone and Dreams, they really managed to stretch their actual hand this generation.
Is merely having a different opinion and calmly presenting it overreacting now?
Wut?
I think it's the simple fact that their heavy hitters and established franchises have shown up late in the cycle.
The had plenty of misses at the begging of this gen with Driveclub, Knack, The Order, and Killzone Shadowfall. These games didn't completely suck and they weren't garbage but they weren't exactly top tier AAA either.
Spider-Man also, while exclusive wasn't developed by a Sony first party in-house studio.
The had plenty of misses at the begging of this gen with Driveclub, Knack, The Order, and Killzone Shadowfall. These games didn't completely suck and they weren't garbage but they weren't exactly top tier AAA either.
Spider-Man also, while exclusive wasn't developed by a Sony first party in-house studio.
God of War and Spider-Man (note the hyphen!!!) were shown at two E3s. Dreams is probably one of the most ambitious games ever and it's MM which is still making money and they haven't released a 'new' game since Tearaway Unfolded on the Vita.
Somebody at Sony has a talent for scouting good material. Reminds me of how some sports teams have lots of money but can't compete at the top level. I also want to think they are very supportive until the end and will delay titles if they have to. They have an excellent track record but it's not all rosey (The Tomorrow Children). I do think when they have a AAA title in the works and believe in it they will do what it takes to curate that title. To me ever since The Order 1886 they have been pretty much perfect with the big titles.
Just seems like they know their audience better this gen vs last in terms of general appeal. Selling more hardware and being the industry leader always helps too as it did in the PS1/2 days.
Personally though, I went from owning 16 exclusives on PS1 and PS2 to owning 6 on PS3 and now just 3 on PS4 (only upcoming release that interests me is TLOU II). But my waning interest in their output is more likely a result of the death of the AA scene and rise of indies (which I buy on PC) than anything else
Personally though, I went from owning 16 exclusives on PS1 and PS2 to owning 6 on PS3 and now just 3 on PS4 (only upcoming release that interests me is TLOU II). But my waning interest in their output is more likely a result of the death of the AA scene and rise of indies (which I buy on PC) than anything else
Nothing has changed really. In terms of quality, Sony has always been good with their exclusives in that respect. If you're looking at quantity, this is a year when all their major exclusives dropped every couple of months. It just kind of happened. There's no guarentee next year will be the same or less.
I agree Sony is killing it as a publisher, but I'm never sure why SotC is included in lists like these, that was a pretty safe bet IMO. It has years of hype that lead up to how well it did as a remake.