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PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,742
Have you counted your calories before? Perhaps you are not eating as much as you think. Unless you are an exception to the laws of thermodynamics.

I know how it is. I have a tough time putting on weight without engorging myself to the point of it being uncomfortable.

I have some sort of metabolic issue that makes my body burn calories much faster than it should. I can put away an entire pizza in a sitting and not gain anything.
 

FliX

Master of the Reality Stone
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
9,875
Metro Detroit
My wife and I are testing the waters (so to speak) about becoming pescatarians. I feel like Ive had my fill of read meat and Im close to being done with chicken completely.

Dairy I dont know about. I enjoy two or three servings of yogurt a day. Thats tougher for me to give up than steak and bacon truthfully.
There is great soy/cashew/etc. yoghurt out there.
Depending on your location, I love Alpro, tastes like the real deal.
 
OP
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Account closed at user request
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Oct 25, 2017
5,475
AS a doctor i want to inform you that food alergies are more common than you think. In portugal around 23% children have at least 1 allergy to food. I don't remember how many of them are to "vegetables" but i'd assume at the very least 10-20 % of our children would be incapable of having a healthy vegan diet. While with adulthood allergy symptoms usualy decrease the fact is there is probably 10-15% of our population that can't survive on a vegan diet. That is just allergies, diseases such as IBS and IBD would push that number higher.
So you are not in the 1% that can't eat vegan, you are probably in 25-30% of the pop that can't be vegan.
Do note that this is in Portugal, in your country epidemiology data might show different figures.
Hmm bear in mind I have many allergies, and they're basically all non-severe.

I know many people with allergies and they don't get in the way of veganism. But for me personally my allergies JUST knock out the food types that are very prevalent in vegan food (wheat, mushrooms, many buttypes, etc)
 

bye

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,424
Phoenix, AZ
User warned: Antagonizing and discrediting a fellow user without raising evidence.
That guy saying he is a doctor was spreading misinformation and lies all over the last vegan thread, so keep that in mind.
 

Samara

Member
Oct 25, 2017
407
Québec
Yeah, I can't do vegan. My body would turn to dust and fall apart without the protein I get from meat and dairy. I'm already way, way too skinny to make a large-scale change to my diet without debilitating health issues as an immediate result.

Doesn't help that the majority of non-dairy substitutes (and all non-meat substitutes) taste like garbage. I had a seitan steak once and couldn't make it more than two bites in before I had to send it back to the kitchen. Just disgusting.

As a vegetarian, I absolutely agree about seitan. Just awful and disgusting. Taste like bacon or something tasty, it does not.

I've spent enough money to just stick to gardein for my fake meats. They're not afraid of seasonings.

That's the thing. If you don't find what you feels tastes the best at the very start of any vegetarian diet, you're more likely to not try anything else. That's how bad most vegan dishes tastes.
 

JustinP

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,343
If my weight didn't float around 115 to 120 all the time I would be super happy with this metabolism. But I'm not exactly a fan of the whole heroin chic look, especially considering I don't do any drugs at all.
This is me, but a dude. If you're like me, around age 30 you'll gain the ability to put on a little weight but instead of filling out to make you look normal it just goes 100% to your belly and you go back to wishing you were incapable of gaining any weight. It's duuuuumb.
 

karnage10

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,505
Portugal
That guy saying he is a doctor was spreading misinformation and lies all over the last vegan thread, so keep that in mind.
you can take your time reading what my NHS says here. I don't get why you and some other think i'm making this up... Do you think i enjoy seeing the bad effects of vegan diet on my work?
Why don't you ever show reputable sources instead of just insulting my credibility?
If you want me to prove that i'm a real doctor just PM. I have nothing to hide...
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,742
This is me, but a dude. If you're like me, around age 30 you'll gain the ability to put on a little weight but instead of filling out to make you look normal it just goes 100% to your belly and you go back to wishing you were just skinny. It's duuuuumb.

I'm 33, yeah. My metabolism is like "aging? What's that?" I blaze through calories like a goddamn hummingbird.
 

saenima

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,892
Capitalism is sucking the planet dry so a select few can own everything, corporations and politicians have known about climate change and the depletion of resources for decades and instead of addressing that they continued to enrich themselves because fuck it profits, most people keep ignoring the problems of overpopulation and rampant consumerism of goods that serve no real purpose besides fuelling vanity and temporary self worth.

But i, as a single individual that has no kids and doesn't really drive but rather walks everywhere, that avoids making any purchase of things that are not needed, and that definitely had no vote whatsoever in any of the decisions that brought us here should definitely be shamed for liking meat.

Look, if you're a vegan, more power to you. But you really have no right whatsoever telling other people what to eat.
 
Jan 2, 2018
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Yeah this is exactly the reason why I turned vegetarian this year. Fish was the hardest part and I still eat it sometimes but only farmed fish.

I love cheese and yoghurt too much to ever go vegan, probably.

I think if we just start with eating less it will already make a difference. Imagine the world meat consumption cut by half.
 

GrooveCommand

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,340
I know giving up cheese is tough.

Cheese recommendations from a vegan:

Treeline (great as a dip or spread):

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Miyoko Mozzarella:

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Any of the Miyoko cheesewheels (great with crackers):

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Chao (Great for grilled cheese, burgers, sammies, etc)

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Airegin

Member
Dec 10, 2017
3,900
I'm all for cheese substitutes but I'm guessing they cost twice as much as real cheese?
 

Deleted member 2761

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm going to try and cut back on meat, but man is it hard when all the campus dining halls offer are unappetizing salad bars.
 

haziq

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,655
The funniest thing about threads on this subject is that the people advocating for population control don't seem to realize how fascist such a suggestion is. Because the ones that are always considered the perpetrators of overpopulation are the poor, the immigrants, the third world countries, the ones having their resources ravaged by the US & China.

It's even funnier when someone suggests reining in the population drastically. Like... how in the world are you going to do that without a massively violent event?
 

Forearms

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Oct 25, 2017
595
The funniest thing about threads on this subject is that the people advocating for population control don't seem to realize how fascist such a suggestion is. Because the ones that are always considered the perpetrators of overpopulation are the poor, the immigrants, the third world countries, the ones having their resources ravaged by the US & China.

It's even funnier when someone suggests reining in the population drastically. Like... how in the world are you going to do that without a massively violent event?

Don't worry, we can let them kill themselves self-righteously to save the planet... and everyone else can continue living.
 

Stinkles

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,459
This sucks. Fix our shit scientists. Get me a decent cost effective uncompromised tasty vegan and energy efficient alternative. Not a $14 slab of oatcake for a Whole Foods foodie vegan dad. I mean something that tastes and feels better than a steak. That's not magic that's simply great design and execution. Vat meat is going to be an awesome business that can be focused and artisanal and moral and ethical and shit. Ironically then meat eaters would have to gently convince vegans that fake meat was tasty and ethical.It's electric cars of food problem. We said it's gotta have range and performance and price and we're getting there . It's working. Now do that for meat, Elon Tusk.

Fix our shit scientists.

these plebes will never solve the spoiler tag, please let me aboard your apocalypse yacht, great scientists.
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
20,459
The funniest thing about threads on this subject is that the people advocating for population control don't seem to realize how fascist such a suggestion is. Because the ones that are always considered the perpetrators of overpopulation are the poor, the immigrants, the third world countries, the ones having their resources ravaged by the US & China.

It's even funnier when someone suggests reining in the population drastically. Like... how in the world are you going to do that without a massively violent event?

Societies respond well to wealth and freedom as it relates to birth rate. Higher efficiency and safety of pregnancy in concert with female empowerment reduce birth rates drastically and harmlessly and happily. That currently has some race components but less and less and the trend is there with capitalist societies with socialist safety nets worldwide underpinnings. So far, the shortcut antidote to reducing populations is not oppressing women and having free trade and democratic systems.
 

haziq

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,655
Societies respond well to wealth and freedom as it relates to birth rate. Higher efficiency and safety of pregnancy in concert with female empowerment reduce birth rates drastically and harmlessly and happily. That currently has some race components but less and less and the trend is there with capitalist societies with socialist safety nets worldwide underpinnings. So far, the shortcut antidote to reducing populations is not oppressing women and having free trade and democratic systems.

The problem is that the countries considered wealthy enough to have curbed the birth rate still consume more resources than the poorer countries twice over, as well as having a much bigger footprint on carbon emissions & overall destruction to the environment.

A US family of three contributes more to our climate change problem than, say, a Mexican or Taiwanese family of ten. So, while enabling more economic growth & female empowerment would be great in a general sense, it's still the wrong approach to this specific problem. Because poorer countries with high populations weren't the problem to begin with. Overconsumption in first-world countries is the real problem here.
 

peppersky

Banned
Mar 9, 2018
1,174
This sucks. Fix our shit scientists. Get me a decent cost effective uncompromised tasty vegan and energy efficient alternative. Not a $14 slab of oatcake for a Whole Foods foodie vegan dad. I mean something that tastes and feels better than a steak.

"Sure, I'm all for going vegan, but only if it takes literally less than zero effort from me."
 

texhnolyze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,174
Indonesia
Does the article say how we could improve our protein consumption while replacing meat? I don't think I could completely forego eating meat, but I could see myself only eating it once a week.
That's a start. If everyone who regularly eat meat reduce their consumption, the impact will be pretty significant, globally.

Instead of eating meat every day, people can eat them 5 times a week, and lower it gradually.
 

RenorMirshann

Avenger
Nov 6, 2017
705
Poland
I eat fish once or twice a week. That's it. When my mother is visiting, she makes us chicken. When I'm eating out (once a month?) I sometimes order a pizza with a different meat, but I think it's OK to treat myself with it once in a while and I don't feel bad about it.

I have no children, nor I plan to have.

The next thing on list is reducing my use of plastic, I drink a lot of bootled water and it's bothering me for some time.

I don't care if people think that all of this does not really make a difference. It feels great to think that I'm helping the planet. In a very micro scale, of course, but I'm obviously not the only one and with all the people that live even more conscious lives, there MUST be a visible impact.

I don't really talk about it with anyone, though, unless provoked. Eat your meat, I will only judge you silently.