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I can't tell you for sure as I haven't managed to launch the game even once yet even without RTSS. Technically the moment the game-window appears before it crashes you could quickly try and add an exclusion in RTSS.
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My PC can no longer play Windows Play Anywhere titles because I signed out of the store for a while
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I can't tell you for sure as I haven't managed to launch the game even once yet even without RTSS. Technically the moment the game-window appears before it crashes you could quickly try and add an exclusion in RTSS.
Yeap, to jump through those hoops to play one game is ridiculous. Mind you I don't hate Windows 10 itself as it can be configured to run fairly well (Pro or Enterprise version is pretty much a must though) but Windows Store?!
Ironically enough my dislike for Windows Store will push me to move away from Skype (along with making all my relatives switch) since MS is going UWP only again with it. Good going, MS.
Wait, you are also having problems with 'apps' on the store? I haven't heard many problems with those. Skype downloads within seconds for me, just as Whatsapp, Netflix, Spotify, etc. What kind of problems did you have with downloading Skype?
No, don't have issues with apps in general because I don't use them. I do not want to sign in to Windows Store. I don't sign in with Windows account either.
I have had issues a few years back and that was enough (had to reinstall Windows as Store just wouldn't work no matter what workarounds I did).
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I find the notion of having to reinstall Windows to get rid of issues mind-boggling aswell. It's a solution but not a fix. Don't get me wrong, by now I actually like Windows 10, that is, the core OS itself. It's fast, it's stable and it's feature-rich, The UWP-part and UI are bad though, I guess I don't have to say much about the UWP half, but even with the store-issue aside, I often have troubles with notification-toasts not appearing until I restart Windows Shell Experience Host and the Settings app is alot of times needlessly convoluted. On the UI front MS literally went from pragmatic (Win 95/98/2000) to good idea and serviceable (XP) to elegant but flawed (Vista) to quite great (Win 7) to what the hell are you even doing? (Win 8 /8.1) to okay it gets better I guess (Win 10 1803). I know I know tablet and convertibles need a specialized UI to work well but in my opinion MS went backwards about it.
I fully admit that Windows 7 looks kind of dated nowadays but a better way to handle that would have been is to take the Windows 7 UI as a base and create a tablet UI evolving from it instead of doing it the other way around by taking the Windows Phone UI and bolting it ontop of Windows 7 but that's a discussion for another day.
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And great the game still won't start. I'm at my wits end. DCOM Event 10010.
EDIT: I reimaged my Windows 10 install now back to the state of September 4th and the game is downloading again, interestingly enough it didn't detect the install of my October Windows and I potentially lost 64gb on one drive permanently but if the dammed game finally works now I don't care.
EDIT: I reimaged my Windows 10 install now back to the state of September 4th and the game is downloading again, interestingly enough it didn't detect the install of my October Windows and I potentially lost 64gb on one drive permanently but if the dammed game finally works now I don't care.
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So here's a question for you and anyone else affected: do you run MSI Afterburner or other GPU-boosting software? I just disabled mine and tested... and the games in question worked. Turned MSI Afterburner back on, and it didn't work. In the short term, in order to enjoy MSI Afterburner's affects on my system, I have to boot the game, wait for its splash screen to actually turn over, and THEN immediately toggle MSI Afterburner. UWP games/apps are clearly checking for this thing in a way that they never did before. Seeing if I can get a workaround from the MS team helping me, but in meantime, I'd love to hear whether you or anyone else can reproduce the same thing.
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I'm glad you managed to fix your issue and thanks for the mention! :) The MSI Afterburner problem with FH4 was somewhat known already, sadly this isn't my issue, AB was one of the first things I closed while testing. I literally went through the my Task Manager and ended every process that isn't part of Windows which didn't help either. Now I have a question for you though, does your testing-rig have the Windows GameBar and GameDVR enabled? I read a few comments that disabling both and increasing the Afterburner RTSS injection delay fixes the issue entirely.
Just tried, and no dice. (I don't see any injection-delay settings in AB, just in RTSS; I've had zero issue leaving RTSS on when booting FH4. Just AB.) Remind me, can you boot any other UWP games, or are they all acting the same way on your rig?
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Well the only other UWP game I could test thing with would be Forza Horizon 3 which I had to uninstall but I suppose I could try that again too. Even after reimagining my Windows I still get that dammed 10010 DCOM error. I'll let FH3 download again overnight and see what happens tomorrow.
Word. I'm still running into issues booting Sea of Thieves, whether or not I have any other software running, and I'm doing my own download-and-reinstall thing for that one to see if THAT fixes anything.
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This is really frustrating, I methaphocally want to cry over these issues. Good luck in fixing Sea of Thieves, definitely keep me updated please! Can you check your Eventviewer as to which error you get?
The new big thing is application modernization, which basically means decoupling the various features or "facets" that make up UWP (e.g., the packaging and installation format aka AppX/MSIX, the XAML UI framework, the Windows UI contracts like Share, the AppContainer sandbox, the Store, etc.) from each other, and allowing/encouraging existing Win32 applications to adopt each of them independently of each other.
Depending on how you look at it, you could call this "abandoning UWP" since they are putting less energy into promoting UWP as a whole and more into promoting its component technology. OTOH, most all of the new stuff originated as part of UWP, and if your app adopts all the pieces, you have a UWP app.
If you're curious about the "new" stuff and where they are going with it, their conference last week had a good overview: https://myignite.techcommunity.microsoft.com/sessions/64519?source=TechCommunity
BTW, PWAs on Windows are UWP apps. They use the same sandbox, etc., and all the pieces above except for the XAML UI framework (which was never an essential part of UWP as they always supported web tech based apps as well)
I had my own thread on this piece of crap. It's finally working for me so I hope you can get it too.
Thank you very much for this information. I'll check out the conference tonight.
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Please link me your thread!
My own shitshow continues too. I reimaged my Windows back to my updated October state and naturally had to download the game again. Yesterday before sleeping I made it to 11gb and had to shut the PC off but guess what, the download just wouldn't pause. So I said to hell with it and shutdown the PC anyway. This morning I then clicked on "Install" again, it went to "Downloading 11gb of 64.5gb" and then the store crashed. When I re-open the store now no download is listed but it still appears to be downloading, Windows Delivery Optimization Service is pulling down a constant 6mb/s and 64gb on the install-drive are gone so I just hope it actually installs.
I contacted Playground Games and they want me to record a crash-record via the Feedback Hub.
Kind of going through the same face of allowing all the users of the pc to play gamepass games on their account and shit is fucking confusing. Come on Microsoft , get it together.
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Oh hell that doesn't bode well for my current download, I'm really sorry you had to go through this mess aswell.
I just left it alone and somehow it finished downloading about an hour later.
Then my wheel didn't work correctly, just like the demo. I've submitted a support ticket on the Forza support website but I'm not holding my breath. Thank god for this gamepass free trial.
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Yikes, I would almost call FH3 a bug-free launch compared to FH4, sure you had performance issues in FH3 but atleast the game downloaded, launched and could be played. I'm doing the same with my download, it vanished from the download-list now but my PC is clearly still downloading something looking at the network-meter. Maybe it will show up as installed in an hour, who knows.
The exact same wheel works perfectly with FH3.
If offered I would take performance issues over my wheel not working.
People are complaining about the PC version of FH4 all over the internet. I've lit a candle last night, praying that Microsoft doesn't succeed in acquiring more studios that I like. I would hate to see their future games being locked to Microsofts broken walled garden as well. :(
Yet you promote Driveclub which had one of the worst launches in game history, locked to 30fpps and has no mod support. There is a patch already for Forza Horizon 4 (Xbox and PC) but you'd rather scour the internet looking for those with issues while ignoring everyone who doesn't have any and are enjoying the game.
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Point taken that's fair, I hope they eventually get that sorted. I may have finally a solution to my launch issues, I can try it in an hour.
Driveclub launches years ago. Nobody had issues downloading Driveclub or had to reformat their PS4 to get it.
Forza 4 issues will most likely get fixed. Windows Store issues are unlikely to be fixed at least in short to medium turn.
Are some having problems? Yes they likely are. I'm not, been playing it earlier and never had to do anything but download the game. Many games have problems at launch and the topic creator is looking for solutions to those problems The difference to the one I responded to acts like this is an epidemic and wants others to join him and boycott the store with no intentions of playing Forza 4.
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I made a new thread for everyone who cannot launch the game so we can have a centralized discussion for eventual fixes and findings: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fo...ting-many-users-from-starting-the-game.72412/
I reset the windows store by using the wsreset.exe and after doing that and disabling EVGA Precision my games started working again.
Not sure it will fix your issue but good luck.
Not sure it will fix your issue but good luck.
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Thanks, I tried that many times already to no avail sadly.
Windows Store is a plague. You may have not issues but a significant number of people do have issues with downloads, being able to launch games, huge patch redownloads and so on. Throw in terrible pricing in general on games (since nowhere else to buy keys for the most part), UWP problems with Byzantine multilayer DRM schemes, issues with mods and so on.
It's a terrible product which mars pretty good games.
Well like i said it's working fine for me. Yes it sucks for those who have issues and hopefully those issues can be resolved quickly, but anyone coming into this thread who aren't even using it currently are not going to get any sympathy from me.
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with voting with your wallet against such a shitshow. But there's a defense force for everything I guess :)
Btw I'm not defending Windows store
I have a load of games there due to play anywhere on Xbox - but have not and will never buy anything from there
Can safely say the download sizes, updates and general jank made me pause ALL downloads and try and keep them either not installed or paused.
I gave up on trying to reinstall my games after a OS rebuild a few months ago
Stupid things like RE7 allowing itself to be installed wherever the windows 10 storage location was, then half the DLC being fine but 3 of them refusing to install on any other drive than C - could have been capcom a vault, but even if it was I would assume it's MS constant changes and not informing devs
I have a load of games there due to play anywhere on Xbox - but have not and will never buy anything from there
Can safely say the download sizes, updates and general jank made me pause ALL downloads and try and keep them either not installed or paused.
I gave up on trying to reinstall my games after a OS rebuild a few months ago
Stupid things like RE7 allowing itself to be installed wherever the windows 10 storage location was, then half the DLC being fine but 3 of them refusing to install on any other drive than C - could have been capcom a vault, but even if it was I would assume it's MS constant changes and not informing devs
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Yeah I can see that, Microsoft really has to work on better error codes and better feedback as far as Windows goes, users shouldn't have to dig through the Event Viewer just to get a cryptic error-code when an App closes without an error. It surely wouldn't kill Windows to pop-up an error saying: "There is a problem with your installation folder encryption, please redownload the app."
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Yeah I can see that, Microsoft really has to work on better error codes and better feedback as far as Windows goes, users shouldn't have to dig through the Event Viewer just to get a cryptic error-code when an App closes without an error. It surely wouldn't kill Windows to pop-up an error saying: "There is a problem with your installation folder encryption, please redownload the app."
Yeah I can see that, Microsoft really has to work on better error codes and better feedback as far as Windows goes, users shouldn't have to dig through the Event Viewer just to get a cryptic error-code when an App closes without an error. It surely wouldn't kill Windows to pop-up an error saying: "There is a problem with your installation folder encryption, please redownload the app."
They should remove the encryption entirely for core PC games. It's useless. It prevents great stuff like mods, but doesn't prevent piracy or cheating.
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Point taken yeah, this is something I don't understand myself, it serves no purpose, especially since you can easily access the files and folders from a Super Elevated Command Prompt.
The whole thing was originally setup for small mobile apps and then Google/Apple type of structure. It was never designed for PC gaming. Yet here we are... if you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. :P.
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Yeah, adding the Windows Phone system to Windows was a very dumb, bolted-on idea :P
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Well maybe in Windows version 2212 when they get as far. I fixed my issue with FH4 by the way! :D
It's not obvious when you have 5 different layers of DRM with some encryption on top and no rights to the install for for users. That's what happens.