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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DT8| News, Site Updates, and Speculation | Think outside the Box
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95% of the Smash community also doesn't bathe, let's not pretend the loud ones are the smartest. Bayo is hard as fuck to use, but the rewards are worth it. If people would spend the energy they use to complain to actually learn how to fight against her, then there wouldn't be an issue.
I agree, it depends if we are gonna have a "blow out" direct with several reveals or just a low key one with story mode/spirits details and 1-2 reveals with another echo or two.
its more like a few people with bad hygiene, but sure 95% because Kotaku ran a dishonest article and thats funnier
just like we're not reducing the FGC to people like Infiltration.
Nerfing OP characters doesn't mean a game is unhealthy, it means the developers are striving for balance. Trying to buff every character to be on the level of the OP character would lead to so many more problems.
Nice thread to post this comment in, lets see how this goes for you.
I don't know if they ever will have a "good spot" that's not a general Smash segment. I expect one more big/medium segment in a direct and that's it.
It's like 50/50 on cool stuff and boring stuff IMO. Choices like Chandelure, Suicune, and Aegislash are pretty great and unexpected, and going with Braixen over Delphox was also smart. But there are too many starters and having 2 Pikachus and 2 Mewtwos is dumb. Hawlucha got so robbed. At the very least they do have pokemon from all gens, though it's a shame they never got at least one pokemon of each type in there, and they also missed out on including some very common archetypes like birds or fish. Zangoose or Lopunny or Meleotta could've worked for a normal type, and for Rock types there's like pretty much any fossil pokemon, Tyranitar, and Lycanroc. Figuring out how to make a bird or a fish fit in would be difficult of course but I think if they could make Chandelure work they can make anything work.
Pretty much everyone in the thread is expecting another Smash-focused Direct sometime before release. Have him be the equivalent of K. Rool in the previous Smash Direct.
Hawlucha not being in Pokken is still one of the most mind-boggling decisions I can recall in recent memory.
2 Pikachus and 2 Mewtwos is the same deal as smash where they didnt steal other characters spots. Their models, animations and moves are largely derivative.
Typing means fuck all because its a fighting game and type advantages aren't a thing, and most of the moves are either made up or function nothing like the ones theyre inspired by.
Like you can say there are lots of fire types, but Blaziken and Braixen are nothing alike so its kind of redundant.
people do either take it as gospel or use it to make low effort posts. I cant support anything that could lead to any kind of bullying when I was physically and verbally abused for a large part of my youth for being different.
I'm thinking the last Direct, at the least, follows the pattern of the previous one, IE:
- Open with a character.
- Last round of Echoes.
- Final character reveal.
I don't buy for a second that Nintendo would implicitly reveal the remaining amount of characters in the box art or show so much content in the last Direct without trying to match up with the final one.
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I mean now that you mention it E3 ended on Ridley and the August Direct ended on K.Rool. Geno's usually considered the third member of the "Never Happening" trifecta.
Aw man, now you got me thinking it.
I still feel he is up in the air, it hasn't seemed like SE really gives a shit about smash.
Hey I'd be thrilled, I also think the box theory is dumb.
I'm still thinking we'll get something this month.
I don't think it will be total silence until November and Sakurais comments didn't say we wouldn't get a reveal soon (and even then that Famitsu article was meant to come out much earlier) but it will probably be more low key and only have 1 newcomer and maybe an Echo
I don't think it will be total silence until November and Sakurais comments didn't say we wouldn't get a reveal soon (and even then that Famitsu article was meant to come out much earlier) but it will probably be more low key and only have 1 newcomer and maybe an Echo
The problem was that people deemed almost everything to be OP once a new top tier rose from the ranks. It sucked. No character was allowed to be "the best". A large chunk of Smash Bros. 4's commonly agreed to top characters are looked down upon a lot simply on the basis that they're just straight up better than everyone else on the roster.
Looking back at it, I honestly feel horribly naive for thinking Sheik was in desperate need for a nerf, when the reality was I was just sorely frustrated by the fact that a lot of my favorite characters were just underwhelming in comparison. With the exception of a couple of characters, a large majority of "balancing" in Smash 4 involved great characters taking substantial hits because they were just overwhelmingly seen as better despite the fact that a lot of other characters just straight up lacked stuff. Not that stuff like Diddy Kong's hoo-hah wasn't horrendously overtuned, but it's not like Diddy was the only one with a braindead kill confirm - Bowser and DK have the same stuff, you just don't hear about it often because their other tools aren't enough to make them contend on the same level.
It's a similar problem Street Fighter V has faced where people expect characters to get nerfed now whenever they've shown a dominant performance. Constantly nerfing characters that are better is not a good idea. With Smash 4, it's created a slippery slope where Bayonetta, Cloud and maybe Rosalina are the only characters I'd unequivocally call "great" characters, because if you keep taking away things from characters, then the only ones that can contend are the ones that have stupid things about them that no one can respond to.
I expect a Smash Direct in November and it will be structured to the one in August.
-Newcomer trailer
-Newcomer showcase with stage overview
-Two echo fighters
-Online
-All-star mode
-Event matches
-Misc. modes
-Spirits overview
-Montage of final stages
-Montage of final items, Pokemon and assist trophies
-Send off with final newcomer trailer
That's honestly a lot to still cover. Plenty to easily fill up 30 minutes or so. Maybe there will be a quick statement briefly talking about post launch plans but we won't get any extensive details.
-Newcomer trailer
-Newcomer showcase with stage overview
-Two echo fighters
-Online
-All-star mode
-Event matches
-Misc. modes
-Spirits overview
-Montage of final stages
-Montage of final items, Pokemon and assist trophies
-Send off with final newcomer trailer
That's honestly a lot to still cover. Plenty to easily fill up 30 minutes or so. Maybe there will be a quick statement briefly talking about post launch plans but we won't get any extensive details.
That was the thought process I was going with. Even considering Isabelle, all of the ending reveals (or reveals in general honestly) would be super popular characters in their own right:
Ridley: Popular in America.
King K. Rool: Popular on the Smash Ballot.
Isabelle: Popular with general audiences; ESPECIALLY in Japan.
Geno: "Even though he's an old character, we keep getting loads of votes and requests for us to put him in the game."
Geno is in no way comparable to Ridley and K Rool and it is completely delusional to think so.
I haven't played much Pokken, but I was under the impression Pika Libre and Shadow Mewtwo had unique movesets. If I'm wrong then it's not as egregious.
I know typing isn't as much of a differentiating factor compared to each pokemon's unique abilities/personality, but that doesn't stop me from wanting full type representation. Besides using pokemon of different types give them opportunities for different types of themes to their moveset. Like a pokemon which fights by throwing rocks, even if not that unique from a gameplay sense is just cool thematically. Same reason it's cool to see Garchomp being able to dig into the stage or Weavile jump around on ice platforms it creates.
They played almost completely differently from their "vanilla" versions, yeah.
If geno gets in every Zelda one off better get in
Atleast Zelda one offs are in the main series
Her side B always hurt the most. When you hit a fast missile in Melee you can feel the oomph, so to speak.
When you hit a missile in Brawl or 4 they feel like farts in the wind. Brawl was espcially bad.
Yeah, I know right? Sakurai has at least mentioned wanting to add Geno in the past; unlike when he gave reasons for why Ridley shouldn't be in and just didn't mention K. Rool at all.
Libre+Shadow m2 do have really unique moves compared to like a Smash clone, but still clearly based on the original character and not stealing slots on the roster in terms of development.
Machamp and Croagunk both throw boulders, I guess? if they thought they could make an interesting moveset around it im sure they would have done it.
I've just never felt that typing mattered much in a game thats also largely tekken/SC and its own new kind of thing rather than heavily based on the original Pokemon games.
Nah, they're all on an equal playing field.
Main recurring antagonist of a major series
Main recurring antagonist of a major series
Secondary character in a single game from 22 years ago who isn't even owned by Nintendo
It's only fair that Geno gets his chance!
If we were to patch melee now, I'd need fox and falco s shine,
I'd actually buff the top tier peach by changing toad to how it works now
Separate Zelda and shiek
Buff Zelda
Give shiek bouncing fish, need some other moves to compensate
Remove wobbling
Buff link with shield blocking everything projectiles while walking, and sword beam at 0 percent
Buff samus and the rest of the low tiers
I'd actually buff the top tier peach by changing toad to how it works now
Separate Zelda and shiek
Buff Zelda
Give shiek bouncing fish, need some other moves to compensate
Remove wobbling
Buff link with shield blocking everything projectiles while walking, and sword beam at 0 percent
Buff samus and the rest of the low tiers
But Sakurai said he was popular and had a Mii costume.
Totes the next best choice
But Shiek is already top tier without a down B lol. Melee Shiek with bouncing fish would be completely broken.
Y'all joke, but remember that Geno still has a better chance of getting into the base roster than Incineroar since there are two mushrooms.
Samus low tier since when? Shes like high-mid right alongside Pikachu
I don't know why everyone forgets that Mario and Mario Kart have had separate music categories since Brawl.
And yet three games later he still hasn't added Geno. Why? Because as much as he might want to add him he knows he's a completely throwaway character and it would be an absurd decision to prioritise his development time over other characters.
Princess ruto is in more games then geno
And is more important to her high selling franchise then geno is to his
Pink Gold Peach on a bike will be the next newcomer.
Quote me on this.
Oh that's how you meant that. Yeah no, leave my F-air alone.
Does anyone think the tail on the Meta Ridley render is protruding out of sort of a weird spot? It seems like regular Ridley's tail is coming out of where you would expect, approximately the tailbone region:
Whereas with Meta Ridley, it honestly seems to be protruding from the taint / gooch region:
Food for thought.
Whereas with Meta Ridley, it honestly seems to be protruding from the taint / gooch region:
Food for thought.
Chaingrab is the only thing id change...which they did in PAL which was technically a newer version
Do we have a good gameplay shot of his tail? Someone probably just fucked up editing the render.
There's a very good reason for why he wasn't in Brawl or Smash 4. Yes, he did prioritise other characters over Geno; because anyone in their right mind would make a Final Fantasy character the highest priority as the first Square Enix rep. Now he's working on the "ultimate" (or special) Smash game, and he's already added a bunch of characters based on popularity. You really can't be arguing that adding Geno would be "absurd" for a game already based on fan-service?
Here's another argument that i've been dying to use on here (not really directed at your post; just something i've wanted to bring up) : Some people on Era would prefer Sakurai adding his own picks over the popular choices, right? I've seen that idea thrown around here a couple times. My question to them is: how do you feel about Geno? Geno wouldn't just be a popularity pick, he would also be a Sakurai pick, based on how much he seemed to like him in that Nintendo Dream interview. A character that both the Smash fan-base and Sakurai already see eye-to-eye on; what a great final character reveal that would be.
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