US PoliERA 2018 |OT9| Next week has been EXHAUSTING

rjinaz · Sep 29, 2018

Yes I know, no matter what happens somehow Republicans are going to take a win a Dems the loss. He gets confirmed, win for GOP, Doesn't, win for GOP. GOP wins just for deciding to go left or right anymore it seems.

Things are going to be fine. Just wait until he actually does get confirmed and watch the Democrat enthusiasm soar to new heights. Elections are so close now.

JustinP · Sep 29, 2018

Fuck that purple column

Dr. Benton Quest · Sep 29, 2018

Autodidact said:
Based on what polling? What evidence besides Republican strategists trying to speak it into existence?

True mobilization of their base would have come from Roberts stepping down just before midtems.

Winning doesn't drive people to the polls because there are no stakes.

rjinaz · Sep 29, 2018

JustinP said:
Fuck that purple column

The enlightened Independents still can't find a reason to vote even after all this shit. Why am I not surprised? Politics for them is only a way to feel superior to others that pick a side or let politics effect them on an emotional level, that's it. "Oh politics? Well let me tell you why I am so awesome because I don't pick either party like you". They don't actually care.

Baron Eyepatch · Sep 29, 2018

KtotheRoc said:
https://twitter.com/amandalitman/status/1045799018448801793

Exactly. Add to this Kavanaugh's declining approval in polls and movement in favor of Dems in recent weeks. Republicans say this is great for them, which they say about everything. The numbers don't support that yet; so far, they show the opposite!

Autodidact · Sep 29, 2018

Looking at the Huffington post poll...

His level of support has remained unchanged.

More Americans believe her.

He still has low approval.

I'm really not seeing this grand effect he'll be having on GOP turnout.

ZOONAMI said:
I've worked 2 midterms with very positive polling and lost. I disagree. I would also cut any Dem Polling about in half for that reason. GOP shows up in midterms. We tend not to.

2010 and 2014 were GOP wave years

konka · Sep 29, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
I've worked 2 midterms with very positive polling and lost. I disagree. I would also cut any Dem Polling about in half for that reason. GOP shows up in midterms. We tend not to.

Deleted member 17092 · Sep 29, 2018

Fair points. I'm just used to being heart broken in midterms despite the polling.

Diablos · Sep 29, 2018

I quoted Konka but it's not showing up?

Anyway

Can't blame him for having that attitude after 2010 and 2014. I do think Dems will do very good (at least) in this midterm, but again, I get why one would feel differently.

Autodidact · Sep 29, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
Fair points. I'm just used to being heart broken in midterms despite the polling.

But polling really wasn't good for us in 2010 and 2014.

In 2010, the generic ballot was R+9 right before election day, and we ultimately lost by about 7.

Ogodei · Sep 29, 2018

nature boy said:
True, but red state Ds don't need to confirm him either. Why would they? The 2020 vulnerable Ds could always say it's inappropriate to confirm a SC justice during the lame duck
He would be confirmed by the GOP.

And ramming a SC justice through the lame duck just gives Dems another reason to stack the court (hopefully) in 2021

Are there any D's vulnerable in 2020? Jean Shaheen on a bad night.

nature boy · Sep 29, 2018

Ogodei said:
Are there any D's vulnerable in 2020? Jean Shaheen on a bad night.

Jones if you think he has a chance in Alabama

rjinaz · Sep 29, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
Fair points. I'm just used to being heart broken in midterms despite the polling.

2016 broke a lot of us, but people need to remember, GOP hasn't just had all of congress for the last 5 decades. Obama and the Dems dominated not even 10 years ago. It always swings back and this is an unprecedented president and GOP in terms of overall shittiness. When you lose Alabama, when you win AZ-08 specia election by 5 fracking points, you're in trouble, and that was months ago.

PixelatedProphet · Sep 29, 2018

This guy says he would vote for hitler if he was brought back to life and he voted/ran d to stop trump. He called himself a centrist btw.

Doof · Sep 29, 2018

PixelatedProphet said:
This guy says he would vote for hitler if he was brought back to life and he voted/ran d to stop trump. He called himself a centrist btw.

No one fucking cares. Go kick rocks.

nature boy · Sep 29, 2018

Everyday Math · Sep 29, 2018

nature boy said:

Trump you're in no position to talk

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

PixelatedProphet said:
This guy says he would vote for hitler if he was brought back to life and he voted/ran d to stop trump. He called himself a centrist btw.

And he is a jackass? News at 11

ZAKU-RED · Sep 29, 2018

So captain bone-spurs wants to go down that route ehh.

Midnight Jon · Sep 29, 2018

PixelatedProphet said:
This guy says he would vote for hitler if he was brought back to life and he voted/ran d to stop trump. He called himself a centrist btw.

literally nobody in here cares

rjinaz · Sep 29, 2018

nature boy said:

It is true that Blumenthal has made a handful of recorded statements that were false or misleading about his own military service during the Vietnam War and admitted as much after the publication of the New York Times' investigation in 2010. However, Blumenthal insisted that these falsehoods were "totally unintentional" and claimed that he had "misspoken" rather than being deliberately or knowingly untruthful.

Blumenthal did not always describe his military service in false or misleading terms. At times he spoke more accurately and modestly about his time in the Marine Reserves, and in a 2010 campaign speech (given before the New York Times report was published), he stipulated that "I did not serve in Vietnam."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/richard-blumenthal-vietnam/

Donald must be pissed if he's even bothering with this. Good. Also, I doubt many vets view this as anything other than an attack so, yeah good luck with that. He was still in the military.

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

Blumenthal has a legal case against Trump that just had a big win Friday.

Stinkles · Sep 29, 2018

Imagine getting riled up to help elect a guy you'd hate in real life, who looks down on the MIDDLE class let alone the working poor - and who you're pretty sure is an alcoholic racist.

There's plenty of Nimrods who think he's innocent and telling the truth but the majority of Kavanagh supporters just don't care. He's their guy. That's it.

Autodidact · Sep 29, 2018

III-V said:
Blumenthal has a legal case against Trump that just had a big win Friday.

Bingo

Stinkles · Sep 29, 2018

III-V said:
Blumenthal has a legal case against Trump that just had a big win Friday.

The emoluments thing?

nature boy · Sep 29, 2018

III-V said:
Blumenthal has a legal case against Trump that just had a big win Friday.

Forgot about that

Reyes · Sep 29, 2018

Who is more to the left, Warren or Bernie?

I think she is running.

Autodidact · Sep 29, 2018

How much of each other's support would they cannibalize?

OmniOne · Sep 29, 2018

I've been on the Warren train for a long time. I understand people's criticism of her, but I don't share most of them. I think she is inspiring, and a policy nerd.

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

Stinkles said:
The emoluments thing?

one of them, yes ;)

XenodudeX · Sep 29, 2018

You have my sword, Warren.

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

OmniOne said:
I've been on the Warren train for a long time. I understand people's criticism of her, but I don't share most of them. I think she is inspiring, and a policy nerd.

Yes, I am down for Warren, Harris Or Harris Warren

B-Dubs · Sep 29, 2018

Autodidact said:
How much of each other's support would they cannibalize?

I think she's going to eat his lunch.

Doof · Sep 29, 2018

OmniOne said:
I've been on the Warren train for a long time. I understand people's criticism of her, but I don't share most of them. I think she is inspiring, and a policy nerd.

Me, too. Warren is my favorite 2020 frontrunner (though I don't really dislike any of the younger choices).

chadskin · Sep 29, 2018

The FBI has not been permitted to investigate the claims of Julie Swetnick, a White House official confirmed to NBC News.

(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

Reyes · Sep 29, 2018

Autodidact said:
How much of each other's support would they cannibalize?

Wasn't there a thing back in 2016 where both debated to run but knew they would cancel each other out?

Valiant · Sep 29, 2018

I feel like its a good time for her to run now. As long as we're building the bench up behind her as she moves on, she's a key role in Congress right now.

Also I'm totally for everyone who is a Dem who wants a shot at it to have it, we need a long range of possible candidates instead of the 5 we had coming in this last round. That was pitiful.

Veritigo · Sep 29, 2018

Forma 2020

Cyprinodon Martius · Sep 29, 2018

Autodidact said:
How much of each other's support would they cannibalize?

I'm sure Bernie's most hardcore supporters recall all too clearly how Warren endorsed Hillary, and will make sure that everyone knows it should they both run.

nature boy · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

Giving excuses for Susie to vote no

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

Absent · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

Instead of investigating Swetnick's claims, the White House counsel's office has given the FBI a list of witnesses they are permitted to interview, according to several people who discussed the parameters on the condition of anonymity. They characterized the White House instructions as a significant constraint on the FBI investigation and caution that such a limited scope, while not unusual in normal circumstances, may make it difficult to pursue additional leads in a case in which a Supreme Court nominee has been accused of sexual assault.

A White House official did not specifically dispute limitations on the scope of the FBI's investigation but denied the White House was "micromanaging" the inquiry.

Oh, I'm sure.

XMonkey · Sep 29, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
Fair points. I'm just used to being heart broken in midterms despite the polling.

I mean, there's 2006. It's a fairly good analog to our current situation, although I'm confident this wave is gonna be bigger.

Surfinn · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

This is horseshit.

Mulberry · Sep 29, 2018

The White House council gave the FBI a list of people they are permitted to interview? How is that not obstruction?

XenodudeX · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

How the fuck can they be allowed to do this shit?

Surfinn · Sep 29, 2018

XenodudeX said:
How the fuck can they be allowed to do this shit?

This has got to be a massive abuse of power.

Blader · Sep 29, 2018

chadskin said:
(Swetnick is Avenatti's client.)

Seems like a mistake on their part. Allowing the FBI to talk to Swetnick would have kept Aventtai relatively quiet. Now he's just going to unload what he's got publicly.

rjinaz · Sep 29, 2018

I like Warren a lot but I don't think she's strong enough to win. Maybe I'm in the minority on that. I'd prefer Harris over Warren even though I like Warren and her positions a hell of a lot more.

III-V · Sep 29, 2018

Mulberry said:
The White House council gave the FBI a list of people they are permitted to interview? How is that not obstruction?

It is. They never claimed it would be a fair and unbiased investigation. They can talk to Brett's mommy and basketball coach.

gotcha bitches

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