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Silky

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,522
Georgia
But it's okay to like one, the other, or both

I saw someone post a comparison photo of the original iMA@S roster and the kids from LL and idk LL is just mad unappealing to me. There's this constant use of very warm / fuzzy colors with LL
with some of the character designs that makes it look cheap and throwaway and I cannot, for the life of me, say that about iMA@S. Mind you I am a casual idol fan due to the efforts of friend Tyrant Rave and friend Retro! so I don't have a significant stake in either or but I feel like the former's visual identity is a lot more , uh, "softer?" like had you stripped any and all idol associations with these characters they would appear to be really good contemporary anime castmates. I cannot say the same about LL

I just don't understand
 

AlexFlame116

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 17, 2017
23,182
Utah
Took me a while but I got it. Had to go back to some Silvagunner tracks lol. So basically you see Love Live as a poor man's Idolmaster?
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I do not want people to understand my thread

I want idol fans to understand my thread

Why the fuck would I want people posting in this thread

This is a request to the idol fan community to help me comprehend LL's visual identity
Lmao
 

Deleted member 35077

Self-requested ban
Banned
Dec 1, 2017
3,999
The Love Live girls aren't really idols in my eyes, but more a school music group. They form a club, compete, and retire once they graduate High school. Its a fun series, and I still go back to see the S2 intro song.
 

Seductivpancakes

user requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,790
Brooklyn
Probably cause you're heartless. I know how to make you feel better.

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Deleted member 4021

Oct 25, 2017
1,707
Idolmaster has better character design than Love Live. LL has major sameface syndrome.
 

Gestalt

The Fallen
Nov 10, 2017
499
Idolmaster has better character design than Love Live. LL has major sameface syndrome.
This. Love Live definitely misses a certain sort of magic that Idolmaster has always had for me. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but something about it feels more cynical and cheap.
 

Abstrusity

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,656
The problem OP is that you dislike Love Live because their worst is better than im@s's best.

I mean, Chihaya killed her brother, Iori is trash, and Uzuki? She tries her best, but it's just notgood enough.

Then you have Snow Halation, which is just leagues above im@s.

The only thing im@s has is that they're good emblazoned on fighter jets, and Yayoi. :^)
 

Krvavi Abadas

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
1,254
Videoland
How does K-On! make you feel OP?
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I actually just bought a K-on! game coincidentally, albeit one that's surprisingly historically important.
 

Herne

Member
Dec 10, 2017
5,318
The Love Live girls aren't really idols in my eyes, but more a school music group. They form a club, compete, and retire once they graduate High school. Its a fun series, and I still go back to see the S2 intro song.


I haven't looked at the clip but this sounds exactly like K-On!.
 

petitmelon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,321
Texas
Im@s has a stronger visual identity because the original lineup reminded me of golden era Morning Musume, the latter of which I was a huge fan. (I can tie almost every character to a MM girl)

LL's cast is more "this character fulfills this trope" at first glance. There are a couple of strong designs but what you see is pretty much what you get.

I think in the end they're probably both the same, but one has the benefit of being tied to something else in my memory.
 

Yasumi

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,574
Not really a fan of either, but a friend invited me to see the Love Live movie when it was in theatres. It just felt kind of vacuously saccharine. There was no depth to the characters, they didn't feel like people. Just shallow archetypes built for merchandising. The in-universe world being hyper-focused on idoling (like Beyblade, Yugioh, other mostly merchandising shows) was also a huge turnoff, just felt really fake.

Im@s, I don't know. I played a bit of the PS3 game for a bit. I guess the way that it's structured as a job for these characters, and they have goals, lives, and problems beyond the idol stuff, makes them feel more layered. The designs are also a fair bit more grounded, significantly less crazy hair/eye colors throughout.

Im@s also has this so im@s > LL

 

Cheerilee

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,969
For those who actually can't understand the OP and aren't joking...

Idolmaster is an anime thing about a Japanese all-girl singing group.
Love Live is a similar property made by different people, a couple of years later.

When the OP watches Idolmaster, it makes him smile. When the OP watches Love Live, it does not make him smile. Because somehow he doesn't like Love Live, even though he likes Idolmaster. He thinks that maybe there's something about the coloring in Love Live that seems cheap, and he likes the characters in Idolmaster, to the point where he thinks that if you transposed them into a different property, they'd still work as good characters.

He apparently would like Love Live fans to educate him as to the actual appeals of Love Live, so that he can better improve his appreciation of it. And/or perhaps for people to help him understand why he likes the one thing while he dislikes the other, when both things are seemingly very similar.


I can't help the OP with that, because my knowledge of both properties is considerably lacking.
 

Deleted member 46641

User requested account closure
Banned
Aug 12, 2018
3,494
Love live fails because it's K-On! trying to be Idolmaster, and thus succeeding at neither.

It's got bops though.
 

Yasumi

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,574
Love live fails because it's K-On! trying to be Idolmaster, and thus succeeding at neither.

It's got bops though.
Oh yeah, that bugged me about the Love Live movie too, felt like a blatant ripoff of the K-On movie. Repeated story beats all over the place with none of the heart.
 

Don Fluffles

Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,060
But it's okay to like one, the other, or both

I saw someone post a comparison photo of the original iMA@S roster and the kids from LL and idk LL is just mad unappealing to me. There's this constant use of very warm / fuzzy colors with LL
with some of the character designs that makes it look cheap and throwaway and I cannot, for the life of me, say that about iMA@S. Mind you I am a casual idol fan due to the efforts of friend Tyrant Rave and friend Retro! so I don't have a significant stake in either or but I feel like the former's visual identity is a lot more , uh, "softer?" like had you stripped any and all idol associations with these characters they would appear to be really good contemporary anime castmates. I cannot say the same about LL

I just don't understand

If you're talking about regular iM@S, then yeah, maybe. If you're talking about Cinderella Girls, then Love Live curb stomps everything about it.
There are other things that LL is better at:
  • Love Live! doesn't completely endorse the fucking idol industry and culture. They're just "School Idols"
  • Love Live! has better music. The entirety of iM@S pales in comparison to Snow Halation.
  • Love Live! is more ship worthy. All the girls are canonically gay and you cannot change my mind.
  • Love Live! Sunshine! is the best idol anime.
  • Nico is better than all iM@S girls because she's intentionally an asshole and a satire of idol images.
 

Dyle

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
29,938
I still don't know anything about iM@S except that Suzuho has incredible costumes and that the last 2 weeks have made me appreciate the value of avatar bets. I couldn't tell you the first thing between LL and iM@S though, I assume that BGBW will somehow get everyone in the Smash speculation thread to bet that Ken is an echo and give everyone Love Live! avatars when it turns out he's a semi-clone. Tbh it's really all we deserve at this point
 

Daysean

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,392
Because love live is wack
I really don't know , I feel like im@s has way more diversity in character types and ages
 

Verelios

Member
Oct 26, 2017
14,877
I don't feel anything from either of them, but you're deluding yourself if you think Idolmaster is some unique bastion of idol commercialization. They've got some good rhythm games, and that's as far as I care.
 

ThreePi

Member
Dec 7, 2017
4,770
If you don't like Love Live because of its warm and fuzziness maybe you should watch some "Wake Up, Girls!" That's the dark idol shit.
 

Fairy Godmother

Backward compatible
Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
3,289
It's probably the art style. Im@s girls look more distinctive. I especially dig the new rendering system on the ps4 Games.
I enjoyed LL anime just fine though, but the game didn't draw me in.
 

Accoun

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,905
Probably cause you're heartless. I know how to make you feel better.
Best thing I can say about her is that she seems to have a decent taste in girls, because Maki is top tier.

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Either way, definitely: LL feels softer. Softer and rounder. And yeah, not a huge LL fan here. I don't care for most designs (they especially dropped the ball with Sunshine!), anime (and the mobile game) bored me and music paled in comparison. Plus the terrible 3D dances.

Also, I dunno. The whole idea of "school idols" feels very cynical to me (and yes, I know it sounds funny considering we're talking idols here, of all things. Not trying to paint iM@S as some passion project or anything), trying hard -maybe too hard- to get a crossover hit between two audiences.