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Ithil

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They are jealous of minorities' victimhood, of the perceived sympathy they think minorities and women get for how they were mistreated (primarily by....white males). So they want to both be in total control, but also be treated as poor little victims. How pathetic is that?
 

Jupiter IV

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Interview with Coons about what happened


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And he said, "Look, I'm really having trouble with this. I think this hearing is tearing the country apart. What you're suggesting is perfectly reasonable. I think we ought to find a way to have a one week pause. I'm really concerned that folks on your side just want to run this out indefinitely and hold it open and hold it open and hold it open, and then it'll lead to more, more, more. And, you know, I'm very concerned about how will this be handled? How will people talk about it.

Beyond infuriating.
 

shiba5

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This one man is worth more to them than all the sexual abuse victims in America. Our pain is nothing compared to the inconvenience to this privileged, lying asshole.
 
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Well, here's hoping the FBI finds that Kav lied to Congress. Repeatedly. It seems that if they do find that to be the case, a criminal probe will be opened.
 

Iolo

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Yup.

I don't think the FBI cares about Kav lying under oath per se—maybe his drinking habits will come into play due to the blackout angle, but I imagine they will more be investigating the allegations themselves with any eyewitnesses. He's not going for a clearance, so the character questions and possibility of future criminal indictment may not factor in. (Plus we may never see the output.)
 

MarioW

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I presume the FBI report is going to be delivered confidentially to the Committee?

Given there is no way some of Kavanaugh's testimony isn't disputed, I can foresee Republicans on the Committee blocking the public release of the report, claiming there is nothing material while simultaneously claiming the need to hold back details. Democrat (and some public) outrage will ensue. They'll then either release a redacted version which Dems will complain about, or the report will leak. Either way Republicans will look bad. And probably more time will be burned.

The best approach would be for them to be open and honest, admitting there was some inappropriate behaviour while still denying the core accusations, seeking an apology and moving on, as they should have done from the outset of this (and on Russia, and every other thing). But they can't help themselves, and in trying to seem squeaky clean, they'll make it worse than it otherwise would have been, just like on everything else.
 

Manmademan

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I presume the FBI report is going to be delivered confidentially to the Committee?

Given there is no way some of Kavanaugh's testimony isn't disputed, I can foresee Republicans on the Committee blocking the public release of the report, claiming there is nothing material while simultaneously claiming the need to hold back details. Democrat (and some public) outrage will ensue. They'll then either release a redacted version which Dems will complain about, or the report will leak. Either way Republicans will look bad. And probably more time will be burned.

The best approach would be for them to be open and honest, admitting there was some inappropriate behaviour while still denying the core accusations, seeking an apology and moving on, as they should have done from the outset of this (and on Russia, and every other thing). But they can't help themselves, and in trying to seem squeaky clean, they'll make it worse than it otherwise would have been, just like on everything else.

the committee is done. they've already voted. the report will go to the senate as a whole so senators can be informed on the floor vote. There's no blocking that from becoming public when that happens.
 

MarioW

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the committee is done. they've already voted. the report will go to the senate as a whole so senators can be informed on the floor vote. There's no blocking that from becoming public when that happens.

Ah, I missed that news.

Will be very interesting to see the full, unredacted report then.

Do we know what limitations have been imposed on the investigation scope? Presumably that would at least be outlined in the final report to help provide context.
 

Stinkles

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Yeah Maggie I'm sure he really said that last part.

Funny that Maggie's output declines in frequency when SHS is vacationing from reality.

Also, I assume Maggie is related to someone in the NYT brass, because her stuff is basically just typed for her, by her sources. It's not even a good version of what it is.

EDIT: I can't fucking believe I never bothered to do this before - but - whelp, there it is. I'm probably the last person to see this.

the daughter of Clyde Haberman, a journalist for The New York Times, and Nancy Haberman (née Spies), a media communications executive at Rubenstein Associates.[2] At the firm, a "publicity powerhouse" whose eponymous founder has been called "the dean of damage control" by Rudy Giuliani, Haberman's mother has done work for a client list of influential New Yorkers including Donald Trump.[3

I'm literally embarrassed for her - and me.
 

Grexeno

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devSin

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We're 24 hours out and two of his former classmates have already come forward to say he lied a ton of times under oath.
People have been saying that constantly since the first hearing.

The man repeatedly and very obviously lied, multiple times, about multiple things.

It doesn't seem to make a difference to them.
 
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Kavanaugh's wife looked disgusted every time Kavanaugh started stammering "beer, I like beer". She did not look like a spouse who was just embarrassed about past behavior.

I mean seriously, who responds to "how much drinking is too much" by referencing the blood alcohol limit.
 
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Also look who's trying to take credit for the fbi investigation



No Trump is not smart enough, it is just the first time that the thought that sexual assualt may hurt the victim entered his brain. As the prototypical Republican, he cannot form any abstract thoughts, but only thinks about what is right in front of his eyes, see for example gay marriage and Senator Portman's son.
 
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The NYT article that was chronicling a day in the life of Jeff Flake said the conversation that he had with Hot Rod about if the FBI could do an investigation in a week, Hot Rod said yes but that they wouldn't uncover that much more which was already known. So that's a little discouraging. I'm hoping that there's so much low-hanging fruit that maybe the FBI will surprise us, especially with a lot of former Yale students coming forward willing to talk to the FBI. At the very least, they should be able to ascertain that he definitely drank excessively to the point of blackout drunk and loss of memory. That's the main thing I'm hoping for. That alone is enough to charge Kavanaugh with perjury when Dems take over.
 

Wilsongt

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WASHINGTON ― In 1999, Juanita Broaddrick said then-President Bill Clinton had raped her 20 years earlier. She received skeptical media attention at that time, and several polls found that the American public didn't believe her.

Now, with the Me Too movement bringing greater scrutiny to bad men in politics, media and business ― and even ending their careers ― journalists have revisited Broaddrick's story and found it more credible. Even Democratic voters now say they believe the sexual assault or harassment allegations against Clinton. For that, Broaddrick is glad.

"It's so much better now," she told HuffPost, saying she particularly liked a 2017 New York Times op-ed by Michelle Goldberg. "I have so many that are in the middle and on the left that understand I am telling the truth."

But Broaddrick was in Washington on Thursday not just to tell her own story ― she'd also come to cast doubt on another woman's sexual assault claim, giving interviews to reporters at a Concerned Women for America rally in support of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Inside the nearby Dirksen Senate Office Building, Christine Blasey Ford was preparing to testify that Kavanaugh had pinned her on a bed and groped her when they were both high school students in the early 1980s.

"I believed he was going to rape me," Blasey told the Senate Judiciary Committee. "I tried to yell for help. When I did, Brett put his hand over my mouth to stop me from screaming. This was what terrified me the most and has had the most lasting impact on my life."

Broaddrick said Democrats were hypocrites for choosing to elevate Blasey's claims Thursday after disregarding Broaddrick's two decades ago. "If you can listen to accusations like this, how can you not have listened to me back then?" she said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/juanita-broaddrick-brett-kavanaugh_us_5bad86ffe4b0b4d308d17cd7

Huh,
 

Antrax

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This is the biggest issue in my mind, aside from the obvious sexual assault. Just the blatant lying about even the smallest things should be enough to give people pause about this guy.

Yeah, a coworker and I were watching his testimony, and we both agreed that if a student tried to say they couldn't have done X because of "insert all the dumb choir boy covers" we'd laugh in their faces. It's idiotic. He'd have a much easier time convincing the public if he didn't try to act like a saint.

I posted this before, but I know Mississippi deacons who wouldn't believe somebody was that holy as a youth. He even says he drank!

"Yes I drank as a teen (when it might've been illegal), but I always made sure I drank responsibly." Who would believe that? The kids that wouldn't get trashed just didn't drink at all.
 

louisacommie

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In order to earn my vote in 2020 the dem nominee needs to promise to sanction Nintendo unless they add 5 more characters from the Zelda franchise to super smash bros to make up for having no unique characters since 2001
 

Linkura

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This is the biggest issue in my mind, aside from the obvious sexual assault. Just the blatant lying about even the smallest things should be enough to give people pause about this guy.
Yeah, even before the assaults came out, he lied many times during his hearing. That alone should have been disqualifying.
 

Stinkles

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In order to earn my vote in 2020 the dem nominee needs to promise to sanction Nintendo unless they add 5 more characters from the Zelda franchise to super smash bros to make up for having no unique characters since 2001


Wait, is this why I keep getting random requests to put Master Chief in Smash Bros? Because that has been happening for a couple of months now. Out of nowhere.
 

No Depth

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Given he also alluded on national television, under oath, to a Senate Cmte, that he would not rule with impartiality, but with spite and emotion, never forgetting those responsible for the "ten days" of reputational damage this circus has caused him...

I mean you'd think he would be disbarred immediately and never allowed to practice law again.
 

Stinkles

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Do you own Microsoft
Instead of just working their


Its a good idea though

Mostly based off the Minecraft stage leak


No, but here's a true story. One of my relatives on facebook is a coal miner in Scotland (or rather, unemployed elderly not a coal miner anymore) and they had me in their pub trivia (to call it local does a disservice to how granular it is) along with JK Rowling and Sean Connery as "Edinburgh's richest residents." he seemed very sad when I explained that I don't own Halo, and more or less just work near it.
 

aspiegamer

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ZzzzzzZzzzZzz...
So uh. Republicans are sorta just hoping this all comes back empty fine and democrats are sorta just hoping the FBI puts "he's a liar" on a piece of paper? I'm not even sure what this is supposed to accomplish.
Put Goku in Smash you coward
Yeah, but if you did you'd have to pause everything when he was KO'd for him to go do a quick training arc to so he could then come back and win the match. People don't got that kind of time. That or the game swaps to Gohan for his last life.
 
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