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Deleted member 16576 · Nov 23, 2017

I know that a lot of people have been focused on Brandon's willingness to be on Colin's new show/podcast, given Colin's political and personal comments that have offended many, but I feel as though people are kinda missing the point. For the past 2 years (and even earlier if you include Gametrailers post Viacom), Easy Allies has been a community of overwhelmingly positive discussion about video games. While never afraid to be critical, the gentleman of Easy Allies have always set out to be respectful of others and loving of others despite varying opinions. I do not think that Brandon wanting to be on Colin's show is in contradiction with the Allies core values and beliefs. Honestly, to me, it shows that Brandon is more than willing to have conversations with people he may not always agree with, and is not afraid to give love and respect to those who do not deserve it. These values have been a part of the Allies from the beginning and played a huge part in why I backed them, and will continue to do so because I trust their judgment.

Another important point worth noting: The Allies are always listening to feedback and they take criticism way better than most in the industry. After the latest Cup of Jones went up, Brandon tweeted that he was listening to all of the feedback and taking it very seriously. He could very well decide to not go on Colin's show because it would hurt people of the community he and the rest of the Allies value deeply. To me, this openness to discussion makes Easy Allies who they are, and I think that they have stood true to their values more and more as time has gone on.

Alucrid · Nov 23, 2017

missingplugin said:
I know that a lot of people have been focused on Brandon's willingness to be on Colin's new show/podcast, given Colin's political and personal comments that have offended many, but I feel as though people are kinda missing the point. For the past 2 years (and even earlier if you include Gametrailers post Viacom), Easy Allies has been a community of overwhelmingly positive discussion about video games. While never afraid to be critical, the gentleman of Easy Allies have always set out to be respectful of others and loving of others despite varying opinions. I do not think that Brandon wanting to be on Colin's show is in contradiction with the Allies core values and beliefs. Honestly, to me, it shows that Brandon is more than willing to have conversations with people he may not always agree with, and is not afraid to give love and respect to those who do not deserve it. These values have been a part of the Allies from the beginning and played a huge part in why I backed them, and will continue to do so because I trust their judgment.

Another important point worth noting: The Allies are always listening to feedback and they take criticism way better than most in the industry. After the latest Cup of Jones went up, Brandon tweeted that he was listening to all of the feedback and taking it very seriously. He could very well decide to not go on Colin's show because it would hurt people of the community he and the rest of the Allies value deeply. To me, this openness to discussion makes Easy Allies who they are, and I think that they have stood true to their values more and more as time has gone on.

at this point considering that moriarty and his fans have attacked members of the EZA community i can't see there being any reason to go on the show now

Deleted member 16576 · Nov 23, 2017

Alucrid said:
at this point considering that moriarty and his fans have attacked members of the EZA community i can't see there being any reason to go on the show now

Honestly, he probably won't given his recent tweet.

BBboy20 · Nov 23, 2017

This is something I've been wondering for some time but the Colin situation helps justify this speculation:

From Colin to 45 all the way back to Gamer Gate, we and Easy Allies will eventually have to face this encroaching ill head on.

"They" will not allow peace to exist.

"They" are dissolving the middle ground as I type this.

Binary choice may as well be the only option left if the absolute worst comes for us.

Pick the right side and hold on for dear life.

Adeptfawn · Nov 23, 2017

BBboy20 said:
Also a reminder that Yakuza 0 is on sale on the internets right now so go grab/download it and play it to understand why Majima is the best.

Agreed that Majima is the best in 0, but I ended up disliking him in Kiwami because of the Majima Everywhere system.
Because of the Majima fights I was so overleveld I had maxed out all the regular styles even though I still had a few chapters left to do, which meant that I had very little incentive to do the substories. Also, by the time he gets all his HP bars the Majima fights take way too long to finish.

Anti · Nov 23, 2017

I need a tldr in all this Colin drama, what happened?

Thanks beforehand

Deleted member 437 · Nov 23, 2017

Alucrid said:
some of the most interesting discussions about video games that i've listened to have revolved around those subjects

For sure. Not saying you can't have interesting discussion. But I personally am not interested in the EZA crew discussing it, and it is quite evident Kyle feels the same way. But people keep pushing him and pushing him to do something he clearly does not want to do and that does not make for an interesting discussion when you are forcing someone to talk about something they don't want to.

DeltaCanuckian · Nov 23, 2017

Anti said:
I need a tldr in all this Colin drama, what happened?

Thanks beforehand

Someone floated the idea of Colin and EZA crossing over, Colin and Jones tweeted about it, a lot of people don't want it to happen because Colin is Colin, and then a bunch of people pushed back and y'know... internet outrage commenced. Some people took it too far as usual, but Jones took a lot of the feedback and it doesn't look like anything will happen now.

Saw someone mention Colin and his fans started attacking EZA fans as well, but I haven't seen anything on that.

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

DeltaCanuckian said:
Someone floated the idea of Colin and EZA crossing over, Colin and Jones tweeted about it, a lot of people don't want it to happen because Colin is Colin, and then a bunch of people pushed back and y'know... internet outrage commenced. Some people took it too far as usual, but Jones took a lot of the feedback and it doesn't look like anything will happen now.

Saw someone mention Colin and his fans started attacking EZA fans as well, but I haven't seen anything on that.

It's the person colin took the tweet screencap on that is getting harassed by his fans he closed off his twitter for now.
Not the first time either again as can be read on the previous page it happened with bob and it also happened for months towards his ex kinda funny co workers.

Alucrid · Nov 23, 2017

Mikey Jr. said:
For sure. Not saying you can't have interesting discussion. But I personally am not interested in the EZA crew discussing it, and it is quite evident Kyle feels the same way. But people keep pushing him and pushing him to do something he clearly does not want to do and that does not make for an interesting discussion when you are forcing someone to talk about something they don't want to.

from the last podcast he might not have wanted to but it certainly seemed as though some of the other members on the podcast did. and from the last frame trap we've seen that they're perfectly capable of holding such discussions. i think by not having them they're missing opportunities to steer the community in a direction it seems that they want to go in and as a result "love and respect" becomes a hollow phrase people put at the end of a post. otherwise it seems like they'll be spending more and more time putting out fires like this and other recent chain of events.

T.Rex In F-14 · Nov 23, 2017

Mikey Jr. said:
In my ideal world, EZA wouldn't talk about race, gender, sexual harassment, religion, politics, gamergate, neogaf, and whatever else.

Mikey Jr. said:
For sure. Not saying you can't have interesting discussion. But I personally am not interested in the EZA crew discussing it, and it is quite evident Kyle feels the same way. But people keep pushing him and pushing him to do something he clearly does not want to do and that does not make for an interesting discussion when you are forcing someone to talk about something they don't want to.

Silence only functions to preserve the status quo. Ignoring things only makes them worse and much more difficult/uncomfortable to deal with in the future.

DeltaCanuckian · Nov 23, 2017

Holundrian said:
It's the person colin took the tweet screencap on that is getting harassed by his fans he closed off his twitter for now.
Not the first time either again as can be read on the previous page it happened with bob and it also happened for months towards his ex kinda funny co workers.

Yeah, I took a look at his Twitter. Basically saw him brush it off as, "I'm not responsible for my fans" which... is true, he can't control them. But he's not doing anything to discourage their behaviour, which is just a perfect summary of Colin Moriarty as a person.

Alucrid · Nov 23, 2017

DeltaCanuckian said:
Yeah, I took a look at his Twitter. Basically saw him brush it off as, "I'm not responsible for my fans" which... is true, he can't control them. But he's not doing anything to discourage their behaviour, which is just a perfect summary of Colin Moriarty as a person.

not only that, but this is far from the first time it has happened. so if he knows the end result, yet continues to participate in starting it? well...yeah. not to mention claiming people who do those things as his "fans"

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

DeltaCanuckian said:
Yeah, I took a look at his Twitter. Basically saw him brush it off as, "I'm not responsible for my fans" which... is true, he can't control them. But he's not doing anything to discourage their behaviour, which is just a perfect summary of Colin Moriarty as a person.

Yeah basically this. I would 100% agree he is not responsible for the actions his fans take but I def think if he was a decent guy he should pin a tweet and make it openly clear that no true fan of his would ever harass anyone else as well as that all his fights are his own. I def think there is a responsibility to discourage and disavow people that do that. But it's far more important for Colin to pile on people that are already struggling.

I think I've seen some fans of his mentioned that he privately talked to some harassers to no avail which I think is cowardly as heck given that it stinks of him being afraid to openly take a stance against the harassing and losing income over it.

I don't even get why people are fighting so hard for him there's a goddamn reason why people like Danny, everyone from Giantbomb the people over at waypoint, etc have none of this shit around them.

Umibozu · Nov 23, 2017

Hobbestetrician said:
Silence only functions to preserve the status quo. Ignoring things only makes them worse and much more difficult/uncomfortable to deal with in the future.

Agreed, which has led to the current situation.

G_O · Nov 23, 2017

bobservo said:
Hi, "Mackey" here, and I feel the need to defend myself from some of the dumb things being said in this thread. I don't "poke" Colin; in fact, I don't even @ him. If so, you're just asking for him to send his toxic fanbase after you (as he did with the EZA fan who also didn't @ him). In fact, all of his "DEBATE ME" nonsense was spawned by me screencapping incredibly dumb things he said and tweeting it out. (Again, without sending any of my followers to him.) Unfortunately, since I sometimes tweet about the incredibly bad things a public figure says publicly, he's told his six figures of followers I am going to kill him and his large family. He's also told vile lies about the careers of his peers when they criticize him for things he says.

The truth is, LOTS of people in the games industry disliked Colin for vaild reasons, but could never say anything because he was protected by the IGN/KF mafia. (Mitch Dyer threatened my career when I complained about some idiotic thing Colin said about welfare.) And right now, we're seeing what happens to Colin when he's not protected. And it's kinda nice.

My opinion. You certainly have a right to hold a grudge in your case. But at this stage you should just drop it. In fact you should have months ago. From my viewpoint you come across quite obsessive.

Anti · Nov 23, 2017

Alucrid said:
from the last podcast he might not have wanted to but it certainly seemed as though some of the other members on the podcast did. and from the last frame trap we've seen that they're perfectly capable of holding such discussions. i think by not having them they're missing opportunities to steer the community in a direction it seems that they want to go in and as a result "love and respect" becomes a hollow phrase people put at the end of a post. otherwise it seems like they'll be spending more and more time putting out fires like this and other recent chain of events.

Thanks for the explannation. It sucks some people take non important things this far.

bobservo · Nov 23, 2017

Graybot said:
My opinion. You certainly have a right to hold a grudge in your case. But at this stage you should just drop it. In fact you should have months ago. From my viewpoint you come across quite obsessive.

My Opinion: I reserve the right to defend myself from the worst person to ever shame himself out of the games press.

flare · Nov 23, 2017

Time and time again I see people wanting to separate discussion of politics (a super generic term encompassing race, gender, sex and sexual harassment) from games and it only blows my mind. Politics and "x" will almost always go hand in hand, that includes games. You cannot take politics out of these discussions and nor should you. Sorry it makes you uncomfortable, deal with it.

With regards to Colin, he has shown (here and here, and time and time again) that he's an ass and says some insane shit. Notwithstanding his argument against Primethius previously posted, he exposed himself on GAF in multiple threads and reacted like this. I didn't have to dig particularly deep to find this stuff. Not to mention he's been a public Trump supporter despite everything we knew about Trump at that point in time. There is a time for discussion, but when you support Nazi idealogy and blatant misogyny, there is really only one side.

LiquidSolid · Nov 23, 2017

Hobbestetrician said:
Silence only functions to preserve the status quo. Ignoring things only makes them worse and much more difficult/uncomfortable to deal with in the future.

Well put.

The way this has played out, Jones and EZA really needs to stop sitting on the fence and pick a fucking side already. Either you're okay with Colin and his band of assholes attacking and abusing members of the EZA community unprovoked or you're not. Their silence on this debacle all while Colin's been doing this stinks of the same cowardice they had when Ian and Damiani were being abused online.

DeltaCanuckian · Nov 23, 2017

Alucrid said:
not only that, but this is far from the first time it has happened. so if he knows the end result, yet continues to participate in starting it? well...yeah. not to mention claiming people who do those things as his "fans"

Holundrian said:
Yeah basically this. I would 100% agree he is not responsible for the actions his fans take but I def think if he was a decent guy he should pin a tweet and make it openly clear that no true fan of his would ever harass anyone else as well as that all his fights are his own. I def think there is a responsibility to discourage and disavow people that do that. But it's far more important for Colin to pile on people that are already struggling.

I got into a lengthy discussion on this whole thing on Twitter last night. And I say everything about Colin as a former fan, as someone who thinks he wrote some fantastic stuff at IGN, and as someone who started to grow up and realize that Colin's viewpoint is that of a high school senior, lecturing the freshmen because he thinks he's a fucking scholar.

Colin's philosophy on life, at least how he presents himself, can often be boiled down to "fuck you, got mine". If it doesn't impact him, he doesn't give a damn. Which is why, sure, he can't control people, but he isn't going to do anything to stop them either. Whether that (and what people accuse him of being) is true I can't say, I don't know the guy personally. At the end of the day, though, I think the best case scenario with Colin is that he is deliberately antagonistic, willfully ignorant, and ultimately he chooses to present himself that way online.

If that isn't who he is, maybe it's time he takes a few big steps back to re-evaluate himself.

Umibozu · Nov 23, 2017

Graybot said:
My opinion. You certainly have a right to hold a grudge in your case. But at this stage you should just drop it. In fact you should have months ago. From my viewpoint you come across quite obsessive.

Maybe you should drop it. Don't see why we we're seeing a Colin defense force here when Ian and members of the community are the ones being attacked.

CyReN · Nov 23, 2017

Excited to see when this topic blows over.

Have a great holiday.

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

DeltaCanuckian said:
I got into a lengthy discussion on this whole thing on Twitter last night. And I say everything about Colin as a former fan, as someone who thinks he wrote some fantastic stuff at IGN, and as someone who started to grow up and realize that Colin's viewpoint is that of a high school senior, lecturing the freshmen because he thinks he's a fucking scholar.

Colin's philosophy on life, at least how he presents himself, can often be boiled down to "fuck you, got mine". If it doesn't impact him, he doesn't give a damn. Which is why, sure, he can't control people, but he isn't going to do anything to stop them either. Whether that (and what people accuse him of being) is true I can't say, I don't know the guy personally. At the end of the day, though, I think the best case scenario with Colin is that he is deliberately antagonistic, willfully ignorant, and ultimately he chooses to present himself that way online.

If that isn't who he is, maybe it's time he takes a few big steps back to re-evaluate himself.

Yes for me it was a similar experience.

Stowaway Silfer · Nov 23, 2017

flare said:
Time and time again I see people wanting to separate discussion of politics (a super generic term encompassing race, gender, sex and sexual harassment) from games and it only blows my mind. Politics and "x" will almost always go hand in hand, that includes games. You cannot take politics out of these discussions and nor should you. Sorry it makes you uncomfortable, deal with it.

With regards to Colin, he has shown (here and here, and time and time again) that he's an ass and says some insane shit. Notwithstanding his argument against Primethius previously posted, he exposed himself on GAF in multiple threads and reacted like this. I didn't have to dig particularly deep to find this stuff. Not to mention he's been a public Trump supporter despite everything we knew about Trump at that point in time. There is a time for discussion, but when you support Nazi idealogy and blatant misogyny, there is really only one side.

Damn. Incredible how unapologetic and antagonistic the dude is.

MXAGhost · Nov 23, 2017

Anyone playing some good games today?

ShadyK54 · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

Don't know how I'll squeeze any in inbetween the food comas lol. Might BF shop, not sure.

Umibozu · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

After Mario odyssey need a little break before I move on to the next game. Playing a little AC:mobile for a few minutes every day.

Elshoelace · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

Thinking about finally playin Horizon, been on my shelf for months. Either that or continue my Zelda Master Mode playthrough.

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

Trying to make time for Ys8. Beyond that I also have Etrian Odyssey 5 on pause.

TheDarkKnight · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

I'm about to play ticket to ride (board game) with my niece and nephews

issa · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

I'm playing Nier. ~11 hours in and I really want to reach the first ending soon before I lose my will to do all the main endings.

Deleted member 5086 · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

I just started Life is Strange: Before the Storm. Enjoying it so far.

ArkhamFantasy · Nov 23, 2017

I beat Danganranpa V3 last night, it was insane, started Wolfenstein 2 this morning.

JayC3 · Nov 23, 2017

ArkhamFantasy said:
I beat Danganranpa V3 last night, it was insane, started Wolfenstein 2 this morning.

Ah! I just beat Danganronpa V3 recently also. Did you like it?

ArkhamFantasy · Nov 23, 2017

JayC3 said:
Ah! I just beat Danganronpa V3 recently also. Did you like it?

I was hooked all the way through.

Fanto · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

I just bought Hellblade last night on Steam. Only a few hours in, but holy crap this game is great so far. Very unique, amazing atmosphere.

Toon Link said:
I just started Life is Strange: Before the Storm. Enjoying it so far.

I've been really enjoying it so far too. The first game is one of my all time favorites and the prequel is way better than I thought it was going to be. Be sure to drop by the OT on here after you've finished, I'd love to hear your thoughts. :)

Brazil · Nov 23, 2017

Sheldon said:
In the most charitable reading of Colin Moriarty's public persona, he is not a racist and sexist person, but a person whose ignorance, ego and hubris have led him to depend on the support of racists and sexists to support his brand. This brand promotes offensiveness for offensiveness' sake, uses trolling as debate tactic, mistakes lack of empathy for a virtue and is incompatible with L&R.

This is how I see it.

The moment they bring Colin in for something is the moment the whole "Love & Respect" thing dies. I already feel that they don't do enough to actually promote that slogan as a real message - when real issues arise, time and time again they waste precious opportunities to actually improve their community by discussing those issues. I get that actual gameplay is their focus, but avoiding topical discussions on diversity and all that makes them veer dangerously close to the "I miss when games were just games" brigade, and the slogan ring hollow.

ArkhamFantasy said:
I beat Danganranpa V3 last night, it was insane, started Wolfenstein 2 this morning.

That's quite the winning streak.

klastical · Nov 23, 2017

ArkhamFantasy said:
I beat Danganranpa V3 last night, it was insane, started Wolfenstein 2 this morning.

I also started wolfenstein 2 this morning. I had every intention of just playing the first level demo and waiting until tomorrow to pick up the disk but when the screen popped up to purchase the full game I did it with no hesitation. I'm enjoying this game way more than I did the first one. Only complaint is that I wish it had HDR.

klastical · Nov 23, 2017

Fantomas said:
I just bought Hellblade last night on Steam. Only a few hours in, but holy crap this game is great so far. Very unique, amazing atmosphere.

I've been really enjoying it so far too. The first game is one of my all time favorites and the prequel is way better than I thought it was going to be. Be sure to drop by the OT on here after you've finished, I'd love to hear your thoughts. :)

On hellblade, play with headphones! It makes everything so much better.

On life is strange, is the third episode going to be out before the end of the year?

Edit: sorry for the double post

Fanto · Nov 23, 2017

klastical said:
On hellblade, play with headphones! It makes everything so much better.

On life is strange, is the third episode going to be out before the end of the year?

Edit: sorry for the double post

I am playing with headphones! :)

And it seems like we should be getting episode 3 next month. There was a 7 week gap between the first two episodes, and episode 2 came out on October 19th. So, that should place episode 3 sometime in early-mid December if their schedule remains consistent. With this being the holiday season though, I could see it maybe getting pushed back if there's people taking time off and whatnot. Hopefully it will be out before Christmas though!

MySoulDarkLikeAHollister · Nov 23, 2017

I vehemently hate Colin. I stopped watching him a long time ago, only for him to further encroach him and his followers to attack people who criticize him, or at the very least not call his followers off. Then he plays the victim like we misinterpret the ignorant shit he says all while promoting his ego. The Easy Allies community and Easy Allies loses when Colin interacts with them, whether or not they don't collaborate. If you say you don't want Colin there, you get blasted on his Twitter. If you for some reason want him there, now you're outcasted from the community. That doesn't even mention more inevitable incoming of his community into Easy Allies' YouTube comments, which have only gotten worse as time goes on.

I saw Bobservo in this thread, who I think has commented at Colin too many times in the eyes of many, including myself, but I will stand by him not deserving any of the vile attention directed at him, and Colin's obvious skewing of servo to better fit his agenda. I trust Jones and the rest of the allies in making the right decision, be it to collaborate or not. I'm not going to be angry if they do collaborate, but I think the damage is still done regardless for some of our community members, not in the idea that Jones has done something wrong, but that Colin is a vile human being and his name being attached to anything will bring a mob of people who embody the opposite of love and respect.

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

Brazil said:
This is how I see it.

The moment they bring Colin in for something is the moment the whole "Love & Respect" thing dies. I already feel that they don't do enough to actually promote that slogan as a real message - when real issues arise, time and time again they waste precious opportunities to actually improve their community by discussing those issues. I get that actual gameplay is their focus, but avoiding topical discussions on diversity and all that makes them veer dangerously close to the "I miss when games were just games" brigade, and the slogan ring hollow.

That is true for podcast topic occasions, but I also want to say that I had nothing but good interaction with them and when push comes to shove they always lived it.
Blood called out an especially hateful individual on twitter not too long ago. Ian and Damiani I know always showed great empathy to the people contacting them with issues.
And in general I feel like I've mostly seen them live the motto when it comes down to it. They earned a lot of benefit of the doubt from me before I will conclude that they're dodging these issues for any kind of cynical reason.
I wanna share this again here https://twitter.com/IanHinck/status/933434388875845632
I think the current discussion has given them some thought. I feel like it might be wise for it to be addressed by the whole group not just Brandon.

Maximo · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

Trying to reason with myself of not picking up a Switch for $400AU and buying Mario.....dear god I want it.

Dmax3901 · Nov 23, 2017

hydrophilic attack said:
Would be a shame to see Brandon supporting Colin Moriarty. I mean I get he sees it as an opportunity for cross-promotion, but is it really worth it, when you consider the kind of people who follow Colin?

This is my biggest issue, Colin is undoubtedly a massive wanker (as I expressed to him directly via Twitter yesterday :D), but I think he's more of an argumentative, stubborn idiot than he is a full blown racist. His fanbase on the other hand strike me as the same "stop talking identity politics" and "what's wrong with being white??" and "them damn SJWs" crowd as we see in the worst of EZA YT comments, and THAT is why I don't want this to happen.

ShadyK54 · Nov 23, 2017

ArkhamFantasy said:
I beat Danganranpa V3 last night, it was insane, started Wolfenstein 2 this morning.

Niiiice. V3 was a crazy ride from start to finish. Might get Wolf 2 since the price is low right now.

Brazil · Nov 23, 2017

Holundrian said:
That is true for podcast topic occasions, but I also want to say that I had nothing but good interaction with them and when push comes to shove they always lived it.
Blood called out an especially hateful individual on twitter not too long ago. Ian and Damiani I know always showed great empathy to the people contacting them with issues.
And in general I feel like I've mostly seen them live the motto when it comes down to it. They earned a lot of benefit of the doubt from me before I will conclude that they're dodging these issues for any kind of cynical reason.
I wanna share this again here https://twitter.com/IanHinck/status/933434388875845632
I think the current discussion has given them some thought. I feel like it might be wise for it to be addressed by the whole group not just Brandon.

I have no doubt in my mind that they're all great people who fight for all the right causes. I doubt I'd even consider giving money to their Patreon if I got any other vibe from them.

I guess my point is that I do think they need to do more within their shows to actively make the "Love & Respect" slogan a reality. It's a flag that they decided to raise. If their slogan was something like "We Play Games," I probably wouldn't hold them to such high standards. But it's not the case.

Holundrian · Nov 23, 2017

Brazil said:
I have no doubt in my mind that they're all great people who fight for all the right causes. I doubt I'd even consider giving money to their Patreon if I got any other vibe from them.

I guess my point is that I do think they need to do more within their shows to actively make the "Love & Respect" slogan a reality. It's a flag that they decided to raise. If their slogan was something like "We Play Games," I probably wouldn't hold them to such high standards. But it's not the case.

Yeah I think I agree we kinda reached the point where it's important to be very clear on certain things no matter how natural they might seem cause I think there are a lot of assumptions on stances that empathetic people have that we've found out the past years are not as wildly shared as a lot of us have probably thought.
I wish all of this wasn't needed but seeing how some people are treated within EZA away from the view of the allies has been discouraging in many ways. :(

Deleted member 437 · Nov 23, 2017

MXAGhost said:
Anyone playing some good games today?

Wanna finish up Horizon DLC soon. I think I'm near the end, but wanna try and 100% it.

What a great little DLC package. Loved it. Frozen Wilds A+

Not sure what is next up. Depends on what I get for Black Friday. Might go back to Titanfall 2 for a little bit.

MXAGhost · Nov 23, 2017

Maximo said:
Trying to reason with myself of not picking up a Switch for $400AU and buying Mario.....dear god I want it.

If you can afford it...dive right in. Super Mario Odyssey is worth it.

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