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Kingdom Hearts HD 2.9 ReMIX Mafia |OT| 358/2 Scum
- Thread starter The Bear
- Start date
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==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
z-beat (2 votes)
sweetnicole - #197
muffin - #243
ezekelrage (2 votes)
brazil - #137
coolestspot - #178
finalbeta (1 votes)
fandorin - #241
red_v2 (1 votes)
stuart444 - #36
coolestspot - #108 #109
coolestspot - #109 #178
coolestspot (1 votes)
fandorin - #181 #241
finalbeta - #228
muffin (0 votes)
fandorin - #116 #181
Post Counts:
brazil: 37 coolestspot: 28 ezekelrage: 27 fandorin: 25 sweetnicole: 23 stuart444: 19 muffin: 15 red_v2: 11 empressdonna: 10 finalbeta: 8 gryvan: 8 themrpliskin: 5 z-beat: 5 grizzly: 3 fran: 1
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Day Start
z-beat (2 votes)
sweetnicole - #197
muffin - #243
ezekelrage (2 votes)
brazil - #137
coolestspot - #178
finalbeta (1 votes)
fandorin - #241
red_v2 (1 votes)
stuart444 - #36
coolestspot (1 votes)
finalbeta - #228
muffin (0 votes)
Post Counts:
brazil: 37 coolestspot: 28 ezekelrage: 27 fandorin: 25 sweetnicole: 23 stuart444: 19 muffin: 15 red_v2: 11 empressdonna: 10 finalbeta: 8 gryvan: 8 themrpliskin: 5 z-beat: 5 grizzly: 3 fran: 1
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Watch you show up dead tomorrow now
Nah just laughed at the image of nicole being all "I'll remember that" then their bloody body showing up by day
For the record, I would be on board with a Zeke lynch today as it would give us some information on a flip of both Brazil and Fand, both of who have scum read him. We'd probably get more information from his lynch than we would any other players, although now with ZBeat we'd get some information on Red since that is all his posts have been focusing on.
These are some weak posts for someone who hasn't done shit all day
There is so much stuff you haven't reacted to:
Stop tossing up these softballs are red and give some substance, or I won't hesitate to lynch you today since you don't seem to care about posting or trying to help town win.
- How do you feel about the Brazil Zeke conversation?
- Who are you currently scum reading?
- Why haven't you been more active and actively scum hunting?
- What are you general thoughts on the game so far?
1. Zeke definitely didnt have a smooth recovery, and Brazil backed things up a bit more which seemed to corner zeke.
2. I should probably say Zeke but that seems...too easy for some reason.
3. I started a new job last week and while that doesn't leave much problem for posting it's been a little difficult to keep up.
4. Haunted Mansion should be a world but the gameplay is solid. A reboot could help and that's basically what's gonna happen after 3
Thank you for answering my questions. I'd like to see some active scum hunting out of you, asking questions to others, engaging others, before the end of the day.
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Now that Z-Beat answered my questions and seems to be engaging at least some, let's go for this:
VOTE: Finalbeta
That's still not much from Z-Beat, and he only answered to direct questions to disappear right after. I don't buy it. I feel good leaving my vote there.
Off-topic:
Off-topic:
I've never played in a game with this rule before, pretty sure. Does that make roleclaims essentially useless unless you also have actions you can claim, or what do you guys think?
Pretty much. Claims without some proof are less likely to be taken seriously.
Question. What pushed my defensiveness from being maybe town to possibly scum?
What about fando made you ponder about him?
It seems you called out zbeat and plskin for more contributions. How do you feel they responded? Z best anyway since plus hasn't responded.
This is some weak stuff, man. Being active isn't alignment-indicative, and while you couldn't possibly know that, I've never seen Coolest be less fluffy than he's currently being.
What do you think of Red and Pliskin? You haven't commented on them yet.
I did get baited with the pressure vote so oh well ♀️. But I have a question for zbeat(I'm on mobile and I don't know the command) but how do you feel about the votes made against FinalBeta? They seemed to not read Brazil because he's experienced which seems a bit odd. Do you also think his vote against CoolestSpot is justified? For being to fluffy?
You were side-eyeing Red and Zeke presumably because they were being focused on due to the No Lynch stuff, and now you're side-eyeing Zeke and I after we came into focus later on. You're playing a very passive game. Do you have a read on someone else?
You've voted for Zeke, so your stance there is clear, but has your "initial uneasy feeling" of Red waned or not?
It's a little too open for a justification for coolestspot, but if coolestapot is consistently fluffy then maybe. Brazil being experienced would explain him and zeke and how he was able to trip Zeke up so easily.
I have to wonder if you're asking about coolestspot because they were looking at you earlier and at also me for looking at you so you're trying to direct me towards a more obvious route of examining someone looking at me to stop me from asking about you
You and Nicole for moving the game forward, and Coolest because he's being more poignant than usual and that's interesting.
I'm conflicted about Stuart because I always seem to get a strange gut-scumread of him on D1. A couple of his posts gave me a strange "Hey guys just passing by" vibe, but he's also pressured people in ways that I've appreciated (like empress early on and Finalbeta today). I'd also like to keep him around, but I'm taking those notes.
Conversely, apart from what I've said previously about Zeke and Muffin, I'm getting bad vibes from Finalbeta and Pliskin, who seem to be having a hard time sticking the landing when they post.
I swear the amount of times ive read my name and fluffy youd think I was a teddy bear or some shit
See page 3 where I said you could be defensive town, note the word 'could' but with your back and forth with Brazil I feel like we are more likely to get more information from your flip than others right about now.
Fandorin: It was his early I'm town post that makes me ponder, Brazil even quoted that same post however like I said, that feeling went away after seeing the rest of his posts.
I'm disappointed that plskin hasn't responded or posted much at all honestly. As for ZBeat, it's not making me feel good or bad really.
It hasn't really changed at all really but between him and Zeke, I want to see Zeke flip over Red.
Here are the only posts from Pliskin that actually participates in the game today:
I asked "Who?" quite quickly after this without a response from them.
Quick line about the no lynch discussion where he brings up that the conversion has left Red behind.
Finally says who he was originally side eyeing. Proceeds to say that he's not convinced by either arguments but that it's likely one of them (Zeke or Brazil) is scum.
So Pliskin: does that mean you're going to vote for one of them today? Or have your feelings changed since you made this post?
I asked "Who?" quite quickly after this without a response from them.
Quick line about the no lynch discussion where he brings up that the conversion has left Red behind.
Finally says who he was originally side eyeing. Proceeds to say that he's not convinced by either arguments but that it's likely one of them (Zeke or Brazil) is scum.
So Pliskin: does that mean you're going to vote for one of them today? Or have your feelings changed since you made this post?
Well if you are scum, it would make it more likely that Brazil is town (I don't get any bussing vibes from your back and forth) and I feel good enough about Brazil which is why I'm not considering him.
I feel worse about you than Red, that's all there is to it.
So, looking at the possible lynch trains today (in no order of importance):
- Zeke gives information on Brazil, Fand, Empress
- Z-beat gives information on Red, Nicole, CS, (maybe Muffin?)
- Finalbeta gives information on Nicole, Fand, Brazil, CS
- Plisk gives information on Stuart, Red
- Red gives information on Z-beat, Muffin, Nicole, CS, Brazil
It hasn't changed much about how the fact that after getting prodded a few times he only answered a few concrete questions asked and didn't bother to do much more.
Besides Z-beat, I see neither Brazil or Zeke as scummy. What they got into looks like a classy town vs town argument to me that scum let go on and on because it was convenient for them.
I can get behind the Red votes though. I can see where they're coming from, even if I'm not sure scum would provoke responses so early like Red did. It's 50/50 to me, I can't certainly say that scum wouldn't, I've seen too much reckless scum in my past games to discount it.
Why not Coolest who also has their vote on Zeke?
Good list. Can't forget that the lack of interaction can say a lot in hindsight as well.
I'm leaning for Final or Red. Plisk can join them depending on what he posts now.
If you have something to say about me then go right ahead but I was just asking your thoughts on more recent conversation.
Good point! I missed that one. Zeke would also give information on CS.
Updated
possible lynch trains today (in no order of importance):
possible lynch trains today (in no order of importance):
- Zeke gives information on Brazil, Fand, Empress, CS
- Z-beat gives information on Red, Nicole, CS, (maybe Muffin?)
- Finalbeta gives information on Nicole, Fand, Brazil, CS
- Plisk gives information on Stuart, Red
- Red gives information on Z-beat, Muffin, Nicole, CS, Brazil
So I just woke up, have a small headache and my cat was eating my thighs as I was waking up so bear with me
So I was gonna actually go for a red vote but after reading through the 2 pages. All my red flags are going off on several posts.
???
There was a big spate between Red, Brazill and Eze so at this point of the game I'm curious as to why your still not sure about it. And out of all that you pick the fluffiest of them all. I do personally want to hear more about the others before the day ends.
Also because your new to the mafia games in era, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for today. However I still want to hear what your thoughts on the others are.
This feels lazy.
Red's "no lynch" policy was something that didn't make sense to do on Day 1 especially to town. I mean sure there have been games with a no lynch but it is town's only weapon against scum so it would be too valuable to not use it especially on Day 1.
which motives were BS/jokes?
what?
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If you need a small summary please check my post on what happened so far.
MrPilskin I know your new but you really need to post a bit more before day ends please.
So I was gonna actually go for a red vote but after reading through the 2 pages. All my red flags are going off on several posts.
???
There was a big spate between Red, Brazill and Eze so at this point of the game I'm curious as to why your still not sure about it. And out of all that you pick the fluffiest of them all. I do personally want to hear more about the others before the day ends.
Also because your new to the mafia games in era, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for today. However I still want to hear what your thoughts on the others are.
This feels lazy.
Red's "no lynch" policy was something that didn't make sense to do on Day 1 especially to town. I mean sure there have been games with a no lynch but it is town's only weapon against scum so it would be too valuable to not use it especially on Day 1.
what?
which motives were BS/jokes?
what?
...
If you need a small summary please check my post on what happened so far.
MrPilskin I know your new but you really need to post a bit more before day ends please.
You going to respond to this? Or just let it go unanswered? If you're not going to respond to it, man that's not a great look.
If you are a dumb scum who just backed down because you played dumb, so what? You'll slip up somewhere else, I'll catch it, and you'll get lynched for it then. There's no way anyone could know that you're scum based off a single thing like that, and there's no way I am going to press someone over something that innocuous that early when they concede early on that they're wrong and give ground.
I don't try to read into if scum or town get more defensive because honestly it depends on the player. Firmly saying you believe that scum or town are always the ones who are defensive is how you get mislynches and lose games (see Game of Thrones Mafia final day). There is nothing alignment indicative about what you said/did, and since you dropped the matter and said you were wrong, I take you at your word for now. There's no reason to press that specific matter further.
Now since you're asking for pressure...
I would love to see you respond to the following statements Red_V2 :
- That you haven't responded to anything other than the no lynch conversation, and there has been a lot of things to respond to since then.
- That you're focusing on yourself and Brazil's response to that seems strange.
- That I would expect someone else to bring that point up, not yourself.
- That you did react overly defensive to what was nothing more than a pressure vote by CS (which I already did above).
- That you haven't responded to anything yet except when they're posts directly about you or invoking you.
So, only reasoning for me over red is gut then?
If I'm town where does that leave Brazil and others voting me?
Pretty much!
If you are town, it means we need to look into people who voted you, simple as that.
I need more clarification on 1 because I personally didn't see Brazil cornering Zeke in that discussion.
How so on number 2?
I'm leaning towards voting Zeke at the moment, while it's possible that was a town-town exchange that scum just let play out that doesn't quite sit right with me so I'd have to put my vote to one of them to be sure.
And when it comes to picking between the two I wouldn't pick Brazil since he's been very active and driving discussion in general.
At the time of that post that was definitely the three. Though at this point I kinda need more from Final on his vote for Coolest given that I feel like there's more material for yourself, Zeke or Red to go off for a vote and yet he apparently doesn't feel confident about anybody else except Coolest for some reason.
So Nicole according to you, Red would give the most info? Man I hate to kill for what is the "Easy choice" and what could of been a simple tripping over their red dick v2.