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Firemind

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Oct 25, 2017
15,524
Woah. Grenades can have a modifier where arrows won't get stuck on an enemy? Game changer. This means I can spam arrows infinitely, right? Do I even need the ammo mutation anymore?
 

Brakke

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,798
There's also the Ripper Mutation which lets you reclaim arrows by hitting enemies with melee attacks.
 

jotun?

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,484
Woah. Grenades can have a modifier where arrows won't get stuck on an enemy? Game changer. This means I can spam arrows infinitely, right? Do I even need the ammo mutation anymore?
I think it's when you hit an enemy with a grenade, all the arrows currently stuck in it will return. Even then, I don't think they return instantly, but after some time with the animation of them falling out and coming back.
 

Ostinatto

Member
Oct 30, 2017
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Guys, first time getting this far, i have 4 HP left, that blood pool will kill me if i touch it?

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Deleted member 9305

Oct 26, 2017
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I think it's when you hit an enemy with a grenade, all the arrows currently stuck in it will return. Even then, I don't think they return instantly, but after some time with the animation of them falling out and coming back.
AFAIR they came back pretty quickly, my Ice Bow only had 4 arrows, spammed them hard and I never had any "out of arrow" problems for the whole HotK fight.
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
Took me 22 runs to beat the game on my vacay. Pretty great. The higher boss cell count equipment you guys have is nuts!
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
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Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
congrats! that's pretty great actually.

I still need to beat the game. ;_;

About 15-16 runs in I faced HoTK for the first time and despite having lots to dish on him got wrecked. Beat him the 2nd time on a run 22. I'm a fast learner, lol.

Figured that I needed to figure out how to use a shield quick and focus on flames / poison to burn him down fast.

Got a god tier drops on the run with legendary pyrotechnics in the castle, legendary shield and legendary flamethrower trap in the clock tower. Had a VII+ Fire Grenade too.

Didn't even really need the shield in the end
 

Firemind

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Oct 25, 2017
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The sepulcher is easily my most hated area. Slow and steady doesn't win that shit lol :(
I think fast and reckless is even worse lol

That map is huge though. I still think the Clock Tower is worse because the turrets are bad on those small platforms facing ninja enemies. But yeah, I'm not a fan of the stage hazard on Sepulcher.
 

Brakke

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,798
Sepulcher is ok, I generally move that fast in non-Sepulcher maps at all times now that I'm comfortable with the game. I want to like the Slumbering Sanctuary but it's kind of frustrating. The concept is cool but sometimes it creates maps that require unnecessary backtracking even through areas you've already cleared twice.
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Oct 29, 2017
5,048
Do you ever discover the horror in the Ancient Sewers or is it always just finding where it has been but never finding it?
 

Brakke

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Oct 27, 2017
3,798
I don't think any of the "storyline" rooms do anything except occasionally have a loot node.

It's weird because there's the little Rune quest early on, but nothing else really works like that.
 

Sphinx

Member
Nov 29, 2017
2,376
I just beat HotK for the first time and received
a boss cell, from which there are apparently 4.

but after the credits the game just returned me to the very beginning as if I hadn't played anything, I thought this was going to be a NG+... how do I get the rest of the boss cells

Also, I got the boomerang right before finishing the final level and I can't see it anyhwere, I thought the collector would show something.?
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Oct 29, 2017
5,048
I just beat HotK for the first time and received
a boss cell, from which there are apparently 4.

but after the credits the game just returned me to the very beginning as if I hadn't played anything, I thought this was going to be a NG+... how do I get the rest of the boss cells

Also, I got the boomerang right before finishing the final level and I can't see it anyhwere, I thought the collector would show something.?

Put the thing in the glass thing in the beginning for a NG+ type run.
 

Deleted member 9237

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yaaaay! I finally beat HotK on 4-cell mode. It was actually the first time I got to him because I would always manage to die in extremely stupid ways in either the castle or sepulcher.

This is the build I had, which I think is pretty close to the max main stat you can have. I actually passed up a challenge room in sepulcher, because the spikes will almost 1-shot me at that point and it's not worth the risk, and obviously if I used an -S trap in the second slot I could've had one more stat, but that trap also spread inflammable oil, so it was worth keeping. Oh I guess if you go through the graveyard you can get two more cursed chests than in stilt village, but that area is so much harder that I never thought it was worth the risk.

(edit: doh, I've been on 4BC so long I forgot about the timed doors, you could get another +6 from them, but good luck).

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Wanted to purchase a death orb, but I didn't get a trap store in high castle, and I accidentally selected traps in the one in sepulcher :/

In the end I had way more trouble with 4BC than 3BC even though it doesn't seem that much harder (131 hr playtime, I'm getting old and do this stuff with brute force :( ). Tbh I think most of the food having malaise kinda sucks, it's just annoying to me, because the second food store in particular is in a useless area.

Feeling done with the game now, unless they decide to add in the 5BC mode.
 
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Sphinx

Member
Nov 29, 2017
2,376
can someone PLEASE explain to me how and where I get the spider rune??

internet says it's found in the slumbering sanctuary.... but to get there you need the spider rune...wth?

eot, congrats!
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,524
You need to use the ram rune in the ancient sewers which can be reached in the toxic sewers I believe.
 

ShortNasty

Member
Dec 15, 2017
1,008
Finally beat it on the. 79th run. Gonna run through the thread and see how ya'll did it. For the trick on the HoTK was reducing that trap damage. Pretty easy once i figured that out. GOTY so far for sure.
 

ArtVandelay

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May 29, 2018
2,309
I think I'm done with this game. I'm relatively new to rogue-likes, but this is beyond frustrating. I tried to beat Hand of the King twice. I won't spend hours levelling up just to get eviscerated by the final boss within seconds and do it all over again for another try. That's mind-numbing.
 

toythatkills

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,805
London, UK
I think I'm done with this game. I'm relatively new to rogue-likes, but this is beyond frustrating. I tried to beat Hand of the King twice. I won't spend hours levelling up just to get eviscerated by the final boss within seconds and do it all over again for another try. That's mind-numbing.

I was in this position, it's not about levelling up for hours. If you can get to the boss, you're almost there, your set-up was just wrong. Do another run, spend very little, then when you get to the level before HotK, just buy all the damage-reducing equipment you can find (maintain SOMETHING to attack with, obvs) and you'll beat him.

Look at a few of the screenshots in the last pages of this thread for builds that people had success with, compare to your own, and see what you can change. You'll beat him on the next try.
 

TheFuzz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,497
Guys, I have no idea what I'm doing but I'm loving the game.

I keep getting killed at the first 'elite' guard. Is there a skill I should be working on or leveling brutality? I didn't read up on the OP, so I need to do that.

This game is so addictive. I've done like 5 runs so far and am getting my ass kicked and I love it.
 

New Fang

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Oct 27, 2017
5,542
Xbox version is on sale this week for $20.

Anyone on Xbox want to comment on your experiences with this version of the game? I recall seeing a fair number of complaints of crashes weeks ago.
 

Bob Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
3,916
Took me over 30 hours to beat hotk. Then it clicked. Really clicked. Then I moved up to 3 cells, which is cool. I was progressing, getting to the castle or to hotk but I was stuck on him.
 

TheFuzz

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Oct 25, 2017
1,497
So this sounds dumb... but after you're getting to the next checkpoint each time... are you unlocking shortcuts?

Also, I find myself not really needing to use the teleporters hardly. Am I missing something?
 

Bob Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
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So this sounds dumb... but after you're getting to the next checkpoint each time... are you unlocking shortcuts?

Also, I find myself not really needing to use the teleporters hardly. Am I missing something?
Not shortcuts but the new runes unlock different paths.

I use the teleporters to cut down on back tracking. If you try and do the timed doors, you can still clear out some levels, use the teleporters and get to the next timed door.

From looking at other strategies, I run the first level and skip anything not directly in my path. Roll past all enemies and only stop for scrolls. If I go the wrong way, usually there is a teleporter not to far back and the teleporter map helps to know which way to go.

Second level, I run to the first timed door and can still clear out a bunch of enemies, grab scrolls. I may take out 50-75% of the enemies. Even the stores stop time do you can look at the items or take the time to look at the map.

By the ramparts, i have enough time to get the door and clear the whole board afterward. You are still moving fast because it's randomly generated but you can easily get the door and kill all the enemies, getting even more cells.

You can go prison - promenade - ramparts - bridge - stilts - even go selpuchar.

That's one way you can farm cells. Some people will stop after the bridge, get 100+ cells in less than 15 minutes, restart. Usually I get sucked in and love clock tower and the time keeper and the castle. By that time, I'm like, might as well do hotk. Clock tower and castle are my favorite levels.
 

noomi

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Oct 25, 2017
3,685
New Jersey
It's been a couple of weeks since I've last played this. I remember the devs saying they would try and improve FPS on the switch but it was going to be later down the road.... has there been any switch updates to performance at all yet?
 

Deleted member 9237

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It's been a couple of weeks since I've last played this. I remember the devs saying they would try and improve FPS on the switch but it was going to be later down the road.... has there been any switch updates to performance at all yet?
I believe the major performance patch is estimated to hit in November
 

carlosrox

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,270
Vancouver BC
I notice the hitches here and there but they don't bother me in the slightest honestly. I'm good with the way things are.

I'm still trying to beat that level with those guys who have the long spears. Already used up my 3 heals so I'm in survival horror mode right now. I have a pretty good setup though so I should be okay, hopefully. One mistake can really cost you in this level.

I've had my game saved/suspended for a few days while I've rediscovered Mario + Rabbids.

lol he thought he was being tricky.


I love this setup. So easy to cheese enemies.


Arrows that leave trails and spreading bleeding are my two favorite abilities. Whenever I see these two I always try to make it happen. I waste money on different modifiers just hoping I'll get those.
 
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nuffDREW4two

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Oct 27, 2017
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Xbox version is on sale this week for $20.

Anyone on Xbox want to comment on your experiences with this version of the game? I recall seeing a fair number of complaints of crashes weeks ago.
Playing on XB1 with about 60 runs so far. Only one freeze up, but I quit to the dash, closed the game and it restarted me at the beginning of that level. There's the occasional hiccup where half a second seems to lag and it catches back up. It's a tad bothersome, but I wouldn't not buy the game because of it, especially if you only game on XB1.
 

New Fang

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,542
Playing on XB1 with about 60 runs so far. Only one freeze up, but I quit to the dash, closed the game and it restarted me at the beginning of that level. There's the occasional hiccup where half a second seems to lag and it catches back up. It's a tad bothersome, but I wouldn't not buy the game because of it, especially if you only game on XB1.
Thanks for the info!
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,524
Fuck me. Hand of the King has. So. Much. HP. I even had 40% damage reduction and 1000 HP but sometimes you just get hit by those grenades or fall into the pit. Not even sure what to do differently. I had pretty nice gear. Maybe Ice Bow instead of Duplex Bow but I thought the double DPS would make up for it.
 

Krauser Kat

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fuck me. Hand of the King has. So. Much. HP. I even had 40% damage reduction and 1000 HP but sometimes you just get hit by those grenades or fall into the pit. Not even sure what to do differently. I had pretty nice gear. Maybe Ice Bow instead of Duplex Bow but I thought the double DPS would make up for it.
duplex bow doesnt have double dps. Its dps is what it states. use a wolf trap and some turrets and stay away. The only ranged weapons worth a damn are the heavy crossbow, pyrotechnics, explosive crossbow, and infantry bow. Use a shield or ice bow for more dmg reduction.
use the little ice platforms to stand out of the way of his blasts.
Damage over time is really good against him so stacking any fire, bleeding or poison and then using a weapon that does bonus damage to that will help.
 

Firemind

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because Duplex bow shoots two arrows. Or is the DPS calculated with both hits connecting? That's rough.