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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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and waste a card from your deck, because even if the opponent pays the ransom, they still make a draw from your deck.
But its not even wasting their turn...they could use card draw in hand to draw your cards, then give you back a thinned deck. Ill watch some youtube meme highighlights but its never getting play.
to steal their anduin. to delay your opponent while you play a 6/6.... I dunno... MEMES!!11!
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Yea I get it. It is worth more then playing those 2 cards, but I still think the problem is that it costs too much (same with the 7 mana 3/3). Like the first neutral recruit minion they showed makes sense to me, even though it's stats are garbage for the mana cost... like finja, it's manageable mana cost at least let's it be playable. That's why I think it would just be better to have the two 4 cost minions.... because I don't think it's really viable to play a 3/3 and pass on turn 8 or 9... even if it is a super powerful affect.
So yea, I agree the effect is stronger then just playing two 4 cost cards, I still don't think it's better then playing two 4 cost cards.
It's a real reach and a half, but I guess you could make a mill deck with Hemet and then switch decks when their hand is full?
Well this set just went off the rails.
Temporus and Togwaggle are just complete fuckery. Togwaggle would actually be cool if it was a bit cheaper but the fact that you spend 8 mana and probably can't do anything meaningful afterwards makes it kind of useless. If it was cheaper I'd put it in my deck just so I could ruin Quest Mage's day.
Grizzled Guardian seems pretty bad. Maybe there's something I'm not thinking of that makes it actually worthwhile but off the top of my head I can't think of two cheap minions you'd want out that make running an 8 mana 3/5 worth it.
Benevolent Djinn though looks like it will be an amazing card against aggro. Reasonable stats and your opponent is forced to kill it immediately.
Temporus and Togwaggle are just complete fuckery. Togwaggle would actually be cool if it was a bit cheaper but the fact that you spend 8 mana and probably can't do anything meaningful afterwards makes it kind of useless. If it was cheaper I'd put it in my deck just so I could ruin Quest Mage's day.
Grizzled Guardian seems pretty bad. Maybe there's something I'm not thinking of that makes it actually worthwhile but off the top of my head I can't think of two cheap minions you'd want out that make running an 8 mana 3/5 worth it.
Benevolent Djinn though looks like it will be an amazing card against aggro. Reasonable stats and your opponent is forced to kill it immediately.
I think drygulch jailer is one of the more impactful cards on a class. Really helps to enable handbuff/dude decks in standard.
Though i guess any hand buffing paladin will have trouble not playing keleseth at this point so maybe it's not good enough.
Though i guess any hand buffing paladin will have trouble not playing keleseth at this point so maybe it's not good enough.
oddly enough, zelae, kibler and firebat all aggreed that was one of the worst card revealed so far. and I kind of agree, the card is absurdly slow and doesn't accomplish anything more than clogging your hand with 3 more mana to spend, all for the terrible price of 2 mana? nah. and just image getting that thing potion of madnessed.
I'm struggling to see any case where switching decks would help unless their hand is full to make it last more than one turn.
is this ransom card added to the deck? if so here's what you do, you play warlock with this card and gnomeferatu and burn through your entire deck. then you drop this dude + gnome and there's no take-backsies
also, sick rin counter! You rinned my deck!? no, you rinned YOUR deck.
If it goes into the hand, maybe druid? You run naturalize so you can fill up a 6 card hand and burn the ransom
also, sick rin counter! You rinned my deck!? no, you rinned YOUR deck.
If it goes into the hand, maybe druid? You run naturalize so you can fill up a 6 card hand and burn the ransom
I'm super intrigued by Dungeon Runs, I've liked the Adventures but always found that Normal was way too easy and then Heroic was way too "hard" - read luck/trial and error deck building dependant (I get too bored to do this)
Frozen Throne was pretty good, Lana'thel was fun, but also super easy - Putricide was a blast not knowing how that would go, but then the Lich King fight felt like the old Heroic encounters where if I had what I needed on turn 7 I'd win, if I didn't, I'd lose - which sucks, so I only did 3 or so (one being a Murloc deck which I won with, but I didn't enjoy doing that one bit)
Building the deck as you go actually seems like it'll feel like an Adventure by introducing deck progression not just encounter progression and I always love when PVE is separate from PVP and is then allowed to "break" the game.
I didn't get on with Gwent, but I'm intrigued by what they're planning to do with the single-player.
Thoughts sparked by the Dungeon Run video that new collectible card came from
Frozen Throne was pretty good, Lana'thel was fun, but also super easy - Putricide was a blast not knowing how that would go, but then the Lich King fight felt like the old Heroic encounters where if I had what I needed on turn 7 I'd win, if I didn't, I'd lose - which sucks, so I only did 3 or so (one being a Murloc deck which I won with, but I didn't enjoy doing that one bit)
I actually won first time with my Priest deck (really the only thing I play [and even then I just get to 20 every month and then watch Day[9]/Kripp/Kibler play instead lol]) as I happened to have Horror in it at the time
Building the deck as you go actually seems like it'll feel like an Adventure by introducing deck progression not just encounter progression and I always love when PVE is separate from PVP and is then allowed to "break" the game.
I didn't get on with Gwent, but I'm intrigued by what they're planning to do with the single-player.
Thoughts sparked by the Dungeon Run video that new collectible card came from
Card text seems to imply it goes straight to their hand so they just draw 1 of your cards and immediately trade back.
Hemet + full hand could put someone in fatigue as suggested, but you would have to survive and they would need a full hand so it's quite silly.
So like....could this actually work? It kind of seems like it could lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/7f2ig9/explore_ungoro_king_togwaggle_v_20/
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/7f2ig9/explore_ungoro_king_togwaggle_v_20/
Control and Fatigue Warrior are on the very bottom of Tier 4 in Wild.
This won't be a reliable approach unless Warrior gets some good control cards.
So it probably won't be a thing.
This won't be a reliable approach unless Warrior gets some good control cards.
So it probably won't be a thing.
it look way too complicated. you need to have a card that's dead until you get no more cards in your deck. basically, wait about 20 turns before doing this.
I'm not convinced, however I now look forward to the day I see this pulled off in one of those meme videos
I'm not convinced, however I now look forward to the day I see this pulled off in one of those meme videos
You know someone will make a terrible deck, swap it and have a mana bind or counterspell to stop the ransom. It's a fun card. Seems too expensive to be a combo breaker like dirty rat. The priest dragon seems like it will just throw the game. Fun though.
1) Draw through your deck with Fatigue Warrior.
2) Have DMH x2, Explore Ungoro, that new legendary, and Skulking Geist in your hand (plus whatever else).
3) Play the legendary and swap decks.
4) Play Explore Un'goro.
5) If they swap back, Skulking Geist.
6) If they don't swap back, they're in Fatigue.
There's your meme combo.
2) Have DMH x2, Explore Ungoro, that new legendary, and Skulking Geist in your hand (plus whatever else).
3) Play the legendary and swap decks.
4) Play Explore Un'goro.
5) If they swap back, Skulking Geist.
6) If they don't swap back, they're in Fatigue.
There's your meme combo.
Hell yeah. That is pretty cool. Dead man warrior is my favorite deck right now so I will be happy to try it.
I'll have to see the gold animation before making any final determinations.
I guess upgraded is 2 random Mage Spells, or 3 random Mage Spells?
Didn't I say I was going to riot if more random mage spell generation gets added? >_>
Firefly -> 3 mana for 2 spells, cabalist's tome is 5 mana. Yeah that's nasty.
Actually wouldn't it be 4 mana for 2 spells? And best case scenario 6 mana for 3?
Before Togwaggle all mill decks have a problem of not being able to run draw cards even tho they're a combo deck, but now thanks to Togwaggle it's fine to run draw power in mill decks because now you want to deck yourself out to start the mill.
I don't know how good this would be but i think it would be more consistent than the current mill rogue:
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/everything-is-gone/
p.s i only play wild so dont ask me about standars
I don't know how good this would be but i think it would be more consistent than the current mill rogue:
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/everything-is-gone/
p.s i only play wild so dont ask me about standars
No but it takes 2 elementals for one upgrade. So two fireflies and two elementals they produce would be 4 plus the cost of the card.
I'm happy with anything that makes elemental mage better. And it's just a rare too, perfectly craftable without too much hassle!
I just meant the card itself becomes a 2-mana card that gives you 2 spells.
Yes the initial elementals would cost 2 mana, but you might want to play those anyway.
Precisely. The upgrade cost is not an actual cost if you were going to do it anyway and your deck quality doesn't suffer from the cards it wants.
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