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Jeremy Horwitz: VR is about one week away from having its Super Mario 64 moment
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Half-Life 3 and Portal 3 even Left 4 Dead 3 VR exclusive would 100% have appeal.
Yep, just seeing that game for a brief moment and imagining the potential for all games moving forward.
I don't think that moment will be captured again for a while, at least not in the immediate future.
If it is any good or groundbreaking, it will create the spotlight by itself. What he is doing is creating hyperbole.
If there is an embargo how is IGN talking about it? No way is it this Astro Bot game. While it looks fun, it's not revolutionary.
By comparing an expensive product that requires alot of space for operation and alot of techinical know-how to operate, he has already set everyone up for disappointment by comparing it to one of the greatest games of all time.
People didn't buy SM64 just because it was 3D...it happened to be on the #1 brand in videogaming starring the #1 most recognizable videogame character and was the best game so far in a critically acclaimed franchise...as a launch title for a system that followed up the two consoles from the market leader.
VR has none of those things...This will be just another VR game to the average consumer.
People didn't buy SM64 just because it was 3D...it happened to be on the #1 brand in videogaming starring the #1 most recognizable videogame character and was the best game so far in a critically acclaimed franchise...as a launch title for a system that followed up the two consoles from the market leader.
VR has none of those things...This will be just another VR game to the average consumer.
Portal 3 VR would be amazing,I hope we can get something really good that can change and accelerate VR industry.
VR is a platform, platforms require exclusives. Exclusives have to have appeal to force people to buy them like Breath of the Wild or Uncharted. Any of Valves games going VR exclusive would do that.
so the Mario 64 comparison was a bit more literal than we were led to believe
While it's the same game as in 2D, the big difference in the VR version isn't in game mechanics, it's in atmosphere. R7, though occasionally very hokey, is a horror game. I'm fairly jaded when it comes to horror, both in games and in other media. When I play R7 in flat mode I don't even get stressed. I don't feel the emotion the game is trying so very hard to convey. In VR, however, the game terrified me, especially in the earlier, less action oriented hours. I literally stood at the top of a descending staircase, unable to muster the courage to descend into the darkness below. If that doesn't transform the game into something totally different for you, then I'm sorry. For me it's like finding an entirely new aspect of a medium that had previously lost the ability to surprise me.
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I have to say I don't think VR's watershed moment can possibly come from a new IP at this point, nor a port. It has to essentially be a major series moving to VR or at least building an original, full-fat entry in popular franchise.
Anything else is just going to be a curiosity, no matter how good. Lone Echo absiluabso had AAA production values, amazing mechanics, a full size single player campaign, an e-sports-worthy multiplayer mode, a name developer, and some of the best review scores of the year. But none of that matters because it's a new IP.
I think Valve are the only ones who both own IP big enough to make this moment happen, and are willing to lose the money on a VR entry in order to push the medium forward. Sony has IP too but they're still hedging their bets on experiences and Indies.
But of course I don't count on Valve for much these days. Not sure if they can even finish a game anymore.
Anything else is just going to be a curiosity, no matter how good. Lone Echo absiluabso had AAA production values, amazing mechanics, a full size single player campaign, an e-sports-worthy multiplayer mode, a name developer, and some of the best review scores of the year. But none of that matters because it's a new IP.
I think Valve are the only ones who both own IP big enough to make this moment happen, and are willing to lose the money on a VR entry in order to push the medium forward. Sony has IP too but they're still hedging their bets on experiences and Indies.
But of course I don't count on Valve for much these days. Not sure if they can even finish a game anymore.
They said they were new games, and when Artifact was announced they clarified it wasn't one of the 3. Dota already has a VR mode so I don't think that would be it, and I really can't see them porting an old game like P2.
He'll be talking about Astrobot. It looks like a fantastic game that does things unique to VR, but yet again the goalposts will be moved as to what qualifies as a VR-defining title.
I don't think it's moving goalposts so much as him misrepresenting his hype. I looks like an amazing title. But it's not going to change the trajectory of VR in any meaningful way (which is how he's selling it). And he could have hyped up his coming impressions without going all cryptic. It's not like the entire world doesn't know it exists.
Yeah, if this is Astrobot he's not doing the game, or VR, any favour with all this hyperbole.
Even if he has to review the game and he's under embargo, mentioning that this game is going to 'change' platformers for VR is something he could've easily done in a preview like IGN did. There was no need for all this secrecy.
But hey, maybe this is not about Astrobot. Hopefully.
A person expressing excitement for something? On social media?! Who the FUCK does he think he is?!?!?!?
Expressing excitement: "I am excited for this game", "I think this game is awesome"
Hyperbole: "I think this game is going to be the defining moment for the medium!"
Honestly, whatever happens, we can't lose.
If it's even half the groundbreaking, game-changing, seismic shift moment in gaming that Mario 64 was, then we are in for a treat at least.
If it comes up way short and falls flat on its face, at least we'll get a fun thread (to vent in or poke fun at) out of it.
If it's even half the groundbreaking, game-changing, seismic shift moment in gaming that Mario 64 was, then we are in for a treat at least.
If it comes up way short and falls flat on its face, at least we'll get a fun thread (to vent in or poke fun at) out of it.
Not really. PC has way way way more VR exclusives and better experiences. Budget Cuts, Lone echo, Robo Recall, Raw Data, and much more. PS had RE7 which is still just a normal game translated to VR and there are ways to bootleg RE7 into VR and many other games like alien, Half Life, doom and even old GameCube games.
Even with Astro Bot while it looks like a far better platformer than Lucky's Tale, this idea of a platformer that you have to move around to change perspective was done years ago.
I seriously hope not, if so he has a very poor understanding of what a super mario 64 moment actually is
For this interested, sony japan made a charming little platformer called puppeteer on ps3. Demo is available on psn
Whew, putting your credibility on the line like that. Can't wait for next weeks thread. He is going to be destroyed if it does not live up to the hype.
Astrobot it is.
It might not be close toMario64, but yes.... when I played the Rescue Mission on my PSVR I was shocked and the only thing I could think of was ' this is the future' . Sounds lame I guess but I was dumbstruck.
The quality is not even close to Mario, but that moment will always be remembered by me, just like HALO CE, MGS1, Mario 64, HalfLife etc. Pretty good company for a demo VR game
It might not be close toMario64, but yes.... when I played the Rescue Mission on my PSVR I was shocked and the only thing I could think of was ' this is the future' . Sounds lame I guess but I was dumbstruck.
The quality is not even close to Mario, but that moment will always be remembered by me, just like HALO CE, MGS1, Mario 64, HalfLife etc. Pretty good company for a demo VR game
That is not a good example of hyperbole. Actually, I don't think its an example of hyperbole at all. Exaggeration maybe but its very much possible that whatever he is talking about does define the medium.
This actually looks really good! Is this the moment Horwitz was alluding to?
Ah man. People are thinking this was all about Astrobot? I'm sure that game is going to be solid, but I really hope the expectations he hyped up weren't about that.
Everyone is saying what Jeremy has said is hyperbole but this takes the cake. So you're saying that technology 20 years in the future can't possibly replicate something that was made 20 years in the past?.....Ok lol
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Don't get me wrong I'm a Vive owner and I know there are great experiences on PC. But it seems like in the popular consciousness PSVR has the VR games people really care about.
I mean, My fave games on Vive are super hot, space pirate trainer and stand out, and I think only one of those isn't also available on PS VR, and none which I care about as much as people seem to about resi.
The lab is special but is a tech demo really
I think that has more to do with PSVR being on a popular console with a proper marketing machine behind it. Most of my favorite games are PC only at the moment and some will always be because they're Oculus exclusive.
It better not be Astro Bot lol. No offense to the studio behind it, but it ain't no Super Mario 64
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