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Do you think Incineroar still have a shot at making in Smash Bros as playable character?

  • Yes

    Votes: 375 55.7%
  • No

    Votes: 298 44.3%

  • Total voters
    673
  • Poll closed .
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BGBW

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If you want someone to believe your leak do not include the names:
Geno
Isaac
Skull Kid
Sora

This is a public service announcement from the Leaks Of Smash Eradication Regulators.
 

Kurtofan

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Mario Kart and spin offs get their own section I believe.

I had forgotten about that, so it's possible we only get one new series.
 

Clov

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The second Mushroom was actually a placeholder. They didn't want to show Doshin's icon early, otherwise the surprise would be ruined.
 

MondoMega

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That was a few years ago. I think Yuri from Vesperia could at least be in contention. He's actually more popular than Lloyd in general (to the point where he has had to be excluded from Tales of popularity polls in Japan), and his game is coming to Switch in a few months, which would make sense for synergy. He also was already on a Nintendo platform in Project X Zone 2.
I mean, Vesperia was out for a good while before that interview, so I don't think Sakurai's opinion will have changed that much since 2016.
Anyone who says Forest Maze is Geno's theme has never played the game.

They played it both times they showed Geno during the Final Smash Direct. If he gets in, I am 1000% sure that it will play in his reveal trailer.
 

TDLink

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I mean, Vesperia was out for a good while before that interview, so I don't think Sakurai's opinion will have changed that much since 2016.
I dunno about that. Lloyd has long been the most in contention because his game was a Gamecube exclusive, so Nintendo fans are most familiar with him. But Project X Zone 2 released right when the project plan for Smash Ultimate was being completed, perfect timing in fact. And since that interview, obviously Namco has been developing ToV: DE, including the Switch version. It's safe to say that both the Smash dev team in general and Sakurai was aware that this game was in development and including Yuri could be strong for cross-marketing. It's also pretty possible that once it actually comes out the more casual Tales of Nintendo fans will like Yuri just as much, if not more than Lloyd... just like most Tales fans already.

Ultimately I see Yuri as, at minimum, a contender vs Lloyd, and in the long run the absolute pick.
 

MondoMega

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I dunno about that. Lloyd has long been the most in contention because his game was a Gamecube exclusive, so Nintendo fans are most familiar with him. But Project X Zone 2 released right when the project plan for Smash Ultimate was being completed, perfect timing in fact. And since that interview, obviously Namco has been developing ToV: DE, including the Switch version. It's safe to say that both the Smash dev team in general and Sakurai was aware that this game was in development and including Yuri could be strong for cross-marketing. It's also pretty possible that once it actually comes out the more casual Tales of Nintendo fans will like Yuri just as much, if not more than Lloyd... just like most Tales fans already.

Ultimately I see Yuri as, at minimum, a contender vs Lloyd, and in the long run the absolute pick.
I have to admit that I don't really know much about the Tales series so I can't really argue this, so i'll take your word for it. I still have a feeling that Sakurai would go for Lloyd (which may be a bit naive) but who knows.
 

BGBW

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No need to fret which Tales is more popular when the Bandai rep will be Mametchi from Tamagotchi and Haruka Amami for the Namco side.
 

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Does the castlevania collection prove vergeben right because it exists or disprove him because it's not on the Switch?
 

Mark1

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I hope today's update has stopped this music theory.

It ruins a lot of the hype when doubt starts to kick in, especially around here.

Let Sakurai do the same with the box theory then these threads will return to their former levels levels of madness
 

woopWOOP

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Pokémon music was posted on the blog therefore either 1. killing the music theory (likely) 2. confirming no new Pokémon rep in coming to Smash Ultimate (less likely).
I was wondering about the new poll and 40 page increase too, lol

I'm not too hot on Incineroar and I never believed he is a lock, but I don't think this changes anything. He still has a chance.

Also the champion music is pretty awesome.
 

Geno

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Interesting that we got Pokemon music. I also find weird that we didn't get a second update today. Wednesdays always had a second update except the direct day.
 

TheDinoman

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Binstar, you say?

khach-san-bin-star-da-nang-1-800x450.jpg


lol
 

NotLiquid

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I don't know if we've been talking about this among all the music theory panicking but the latest Sakurai column emphasizes that we should expect the reveals to slow down a bit from now on.
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/09/2...w-down/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

"We announced Isabelle in the Nintendo Direct," Sakurai wrote in his Weekly Famitsu column. "… however, it would be a mistake to think that the new character announcements will keep going [at this pace] until Smash Bros. releases. We may have been a little trigger-happy so we'll be living modestly from here on out."

I'm sticking to two more newcomers, and one or two more echoes.
 

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I've been thinking

What if none of the overarching theories are right?

Box? Chair? Music? All of these theories are littered with holes.

As for leakers, loz18 got disgraced and vergeben is next.
 

BGBW

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It wasn't talked too much around here, but the above should hopefully stop that silly blog theory from gaining more traction.
 

Clov

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Geno

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It's funny that people beleive that they'd arbitrarily leave characters off of the special edition box to prevent leaks or let a random intern design a package for Amazon that they're gonna change completely later but not that they might post music from a series as big as Pokemon before revealing a newcomer later on.

I don't know if we've been talking about this among all the music theory panicking but the latest Sakurai column emphasizes that we should expect the reveals to slow down a bit from now on.
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/09/2...w-down/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


I'm sticking to two more newcomers, and one or two more echoes.

Oh, would you look at that.

There goes the idea there's NO WAY they'd slow down reveals before launch or whatever nonsense people were telling me the other day.
 

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Last two characters are Ken and Shadow (with guns), book it.

It's funny that people beleive that they'd arbitrarily leave characters off of the special edition box to prevent leaks or let a random intern design a package for Amazon that they're gonna change completely later but not that they might post music from a series as big as Pokemon before revealing a newcomer later on.
Neither are likely. The only reason people doubted Box Theory in the first place was because if you believed Vergeben there was no room for Shadow, a hard lock.

But verge was exposed as a fraud last night.
 

NotLiquid

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Perhaps we'll have no news in October, then. Still sticking to my prediction of more than two.
The way I see it, we're a bit over two months until the game releases, which is us crossing the halfway point from official E3 reveal to release date. Previously, that same time frame has yielded 5 newcomers up until this point; 9 if you count echoes.

With Sakurai's wording I figure the logic is predominantly to just temper the expectations that we'll see a similar increase in volume for the time we have left. That doesn't outright deconfirm the box theory, but I think it does lend a degree of credence that one newcomer and one echo isn't all that we have left given the time remaining up until release. Two more newcomers seems like a fairly reasonable estimate. If we're to assume that Vergeben's rumor is correct, I think that falls in line with Sakurai's own comment. Two more newcomers for the remaining two months and a half makes sense, and would be a more modest decrease from when we basically got 8 characters in a similar timeframe previously.
 

BassForever

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I don't know if we've been talking about this among all the music theory panicking but the latest Sakurai column emphasizes that we should expect the reveals to slow down a bit from now on.
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/09/2...w-down/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter



I'm sticking to two more newcomers, and one or two more echoes.

Box theory looks likely, if it's wrong I expect at max the total newcomer and echo count can't be higher then 3-4.
 

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MondoMega

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Whoops, i'm getting scared that my predictions are a bit off now. I guess i'll revert all the way back to my E3 prediction of 7 unique newcomers (so two more) just to be super safe. Don't ask me who those characters would be though. At this point I have no idea what to really expect.

#teammorethan2 won't lose.
 
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Crayolan

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I don't know if we've been talking about this among all the music theory panicking but the latest Sakurai column emphasizes that we should expect the reveals to slow down a bit from now on.
http://www.siliconera.com/2018/09/2...w-down/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter



I'm sticking to two more newcomers, and one or two more echoes.

I'm gonna interpret this as no October reveal. So back to my original prediction of 2 newcomers left, both revealed in a November Smash Direct.
 

Le Dude

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Eh, I don't think Sakurai saying they're gonna slow down is an indication that the box theory is correct.

If we take out Inklings and start from when Smash was fully unveiled in June, we had four original character reveals and four echo reveals in about three months. We have about two and a half months until release. Only one more original character and one more echo would be a hell of a lot less reveals than just slowing down. I'm still expecting another character or two and at least a couple echoes.
 

Kyzer

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Fan speculation always far outweighs the original scope of the game, in the end. Happens every time.
 

MondoMega

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It's funny that in two months we'll be able to look back and laugh at how wrong our predictions were. I can't wait to see this place post-Geno lol
 

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The maximum I can see us getting now is 3 more unique. If there's an October reveal I imagine it will happen either next week or the week after. If not then 2 unique left both at the November direct.
 
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