Yeah ok. But what do you count as attacking. Is it stuff like me citing stuff colin did explaining why that is a problem does that already qualify as an attack?
Is it explaining why the statements he's making perpetuate racist/sexist behavior especially because he has a sizable following?
Also how do you define an "attack" is it the act of criticizing an opinion? I think the vagueness here doesn't help cause I can certainly see a subset of actions that I would agree with aren't helpful that I'd consider an "attack" where I totally I agree with you. But I've seen very little of that from the people voicing their opinions on Colin.
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Like how many more times does Colin get to send his following to harass people until he runs out of benefit of the doubt?
I will say this if Colin has it in him to take the tweet down shaming Nathan to his following and can say them to lay off that would already do a lot. But I'm at a point where I'm pretty sure that he doesn't have it in him to do that cause empathy isn't something that comes to him.
I know it is vague. That's also because I am conflicted about stuff like this myself. I really want to be as understanding as I can be with other people's views (that's something I am doing for years), but I don't agree with racism/sexism whatsoever.
I usually mean attacking as physically hurting somebody as I have a fairly thick skin and verbal abuse usually doesn't get me too much. That said I know some people are very vulnerable when verbally abused so I am not sure.
If people say "kill all <x>", that's attacking as well of course. Again, judging by the stuff I have seen, I rather not have somebody like him in the community either. But mainly because of stuff like what is happening right now. Not specifically because of how he thinks (although if I wouldn't try to be understanding I would have the same words for him as most of the people do here).
You can say you don't agree with it of course as long as you don't verbally attack that person for thinking something different, I don't mind (btw, I have a problem with this as well, I want to label racists and sexists like assholes as well). I usually have a problem with people trying to push their believes onto others (most religions come to mind, that said I am not going to judge somebody being in a specific religion as long as they leave others to believe what they believe as well), so I know I am on a slippery slope here. I try to listen to what people they have to say even if I don't agree with it. I usually make a counter argument. If I see they think about what I have to say, I usually am content even if they don't agree with me. If they close of their mind to anything I have to say and they don't seem to want to listen or discuss, I can get quite pissed of about it however.
The reason I wanted to stop the argument is because I know it is all quite vague and ultimately everybody decides for themselves what is attacking or not.
I just hate to see this thing blow up as much as it did as I don't think it is worth blowing up the whole community because of this.
But again, that's my opinion. I try not to tell people what to believe as that's something I always had a problem with.
Ultimately it's just some people don't mind as much what believes somebody has to be part of this community (as long as they behave in a decent manner and not push their agenda) and others mind this a lot and are very vocal about it. There is no real solution for this unfortunately.
