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Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I thought the fact that I was including the post game in my percentage was a given. Sorry.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So huh... what weapon build did you guys go for

Hendrik? I just got him in my party and suddenly I have 73p to spend lol

Depends, his 'themed exclusive weapon' is a sword and shield, his strongest one handed is axe, and there are times when you really need to use greatsword with him.
 

Roldan

Member
Oct 29, 2017
759
They have to take something from you given that you keep all your progress upon getting wiped, though it feels more odd now that there are auto saves.

The options aren't described very well. The gold penalty is there because you're not really reloading - you get to keep your progress including any experience and items gained, which is what the series has always done. The bottom option to load from an autosave is the only one that functions like a normal reload in that it resets all your progress.

This is why the game has banks, you can store any excess gold there in increments of 1000. It's always best to leave your gold there before you leave town.

Ha! The "continue from your last save" option surely is a bit misleading, then.

(Super late) thanks!
 

Viale

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Oct 25, 2017
11,614
Oof. Spent the day cleaning up trophies. Got to max level, cows, casino, puff puff, crossbow challenge, and most tirringly, the fashion one(that took a long while). It was long, but I love getting the best gear for my team especially if I can do it before the end. Can't wait to straight up destroy the final dungeon tomorrow. Excellent game.
 

Himemomoko

Member
Aug 29, 2018
537
So...

so the events after that, the one with Luminary returning the sword to Yggdrasil, it's assumed that Erdwin is alive already (past was changed by Serenica) and Calasmos still happened? Also Yggdragon became the Dragon King right? Biggest problem with the whole Loto arc has basically no progress in technology lol

Honestly the game is so vague about how time travel works that I try not to think too much about it. Unless I'm missing something, you finding the sword of light at all on Yggdrasil doesn't make sense because it can't be there unless you travel back in time yourself, kill Calasmos and help Serenica, which are way too many specific requirements, even if we assume "they were always meant to happen hence the sword was there from the start".

Hell, if you get technical, OG Erdrick in DQ3 doesn't inherit any sword of light let alone get one from Yggdrasil, though DQ1 hero does inherit a specific sword from him (sword of kings)... The Supreme sword of light is made with the sword of king's too, which you do forge in III so you could kinda justify the connection.

I think Opa-Pa's answer got the spirit. The game is vague you don't need to think too much, especially those involved in time-travel.
However there are something you can figure out easily, like whether yggdrasil is the dragon lord in DQ1 (the answer is no, see here #9104).
To explain Erdwin was alive but Calasmos still happened ----- you can use history converging theory to explain, see #8897 . For example, Erdwin was alive because of your effort, however Calasmos revived through another route so the story of DQ11 still exist; the only difference was how Erdwin died. But again, you don't need to think too much about this.
Regarding the sword that DQ1 hero inherited, actually it could be anything; in NES DQ3 end, the equipments on your hero were what would show in the ending scripts.

I notice that in EN ver. they changed a lot of text. In JP ending, it revealed that Roto, this very title(yes, it's a title, not an actual name in DQ3) ,was originated from DQ11.
 

Himemomoko

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Aug 29, 2018
537
According to dragonquest.wikia, there are over 700 monsters in the game (which is a lot higher than the amount I see in the info screen in-game, I'm guessing the max goes up later) so I'm using that as a rough estimate of how far I've gotten. Just got party members 6 & 7 on my team and a little over 100 monster types defeated with maybe 20-25 hours played (Hard Enemies + No Shops + No Grinding) so I'm kind of thrilled. Turn-based JRPGs as good as this don't come around that often, but at least this looks like it's set to last me a LONG time.

662 in total, 700 is that of 3DS version.
Available sidequest is also a good indicator. You have 60 side quests in total, they will be unlocked according to your progress.

What spots should I look for new recipes? Besides running around after bookshelves, I mean

Recipe are in chests, shelf (you mentioned), as rewards of some sidequest, prizes from casino. A town NPC will give you a recipe as well, but only one in this game.
Those in the chests are generally easy to be missed. Some of them are in some hidden places.
 
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pauloshinobi

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Apr 3, 2018
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So, brehs...any tips on where to look for equipment recipes? I've been looking for all bookshelves around but I feel like I am missing a lot of options...
 

crono686

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Jan 21, 2018
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Has anyone tested if 14 equipped Bunny Tails give a higher droprate compared with only 8 equipped Bunny Tails?
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Himemomoko
I read both OG Steins;Gate and 0 some months ago so thankfully I can use worldline convergence theory to explain most discrepancies in the story, haha.
 

Himemomoko

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Aug 29, 2018
537
So what's up with the weather cows? I assume this is a DQ running gag?

To my knowledge these cows are new, no reference from previous titles. Coooool?

Is new game+ common for Dragon Quest games? Is it a possible addition to Dragon Quest XI in the future?

No. However massive post-game content is common since an SNES title.

So, brehs...any tips on where to look for equipment recipes? I've been looking for all bookshelves around but I feel like I am missing a lot of options...

I've answered your question on#10150, besides, you might find this IGN guide useful(with screenshots) >> https://ca.ign.com/wikis/dragon-quest-xi/Recipe_Books

Has anyone tested if 14 equipped Bunny Tails give a higher droprate compared with only 8 equipped Bunny Tails?

Only those in the front are effective. You can easily sense this mechanism by equipping Erik with pirate's pendant. Whether he is in front or not will make a big difference.
 

Megasoum

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh no... I just went back to the Casino in Porta Valor for the first time in like 20 hours and there's a new helmet that has amazing stats but it's 500 000 tokens....ughhhhhhhh
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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I think we should give up the idea of the game receiving any kind of post-launch support. For DQ we're only getting what was already done for the japanese audience (plus additional tweaks, sans passwords and freebies), and anything new would likely be just stuff added to the Switch version, and even then I doubt whatever that content is will be available in other platforms.
 
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MechaX

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Oct 27, 2017
5,040
Don't bother attempting debuffs on bosses that move 3 times in a turn, it'll wear off very quickly and not worth the effort and risk. Just focus on keeping everyone alive with buffs and heals, while attacking the boss while you can.

Welcome to Dragon RNG Quest!

I personally relied on Poison mostly, but the fight will be a lot easier if you pep up a few of your characters before battle (I know this is annoying and I personally couldn't be bothered). "Lightning and Tundra" is a great pep skill early game.



Yeah I pretty much ended up abandoning using Illusion and Sleep (since the guest kept fucking that up without fail), and just focused on using Sap, occasional Decelerate, and respec'd Erik entirely to use his Poison skills. Ran into a Metal Slime on the way there and got Serena to learn Midheal (it's a bit help, but merchants at this point start selling Strong Medicine and that's cheap), which was very valuable in the fight.

I ended up beating him with everyone still in decent condition, but I still think that the RNG in that fight is kinda crazy on Hard (the boss can pretty much annihilate Veronica before you have the chance to act if he really wants to), and I'm still mad salty about how I couldn't do jack shit about the AI Guest partner and had to change around my entire strategy because of it.
 

Dyno

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
13,232
Any tips for the boss in gallapolis region? Went with hard mode so for that specifically I guess. I can kinda hold my ground but not getting damage in fast enough to last the whole fight
 

kswiston

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Oct 24, 2017
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I think we should give up the idea of the game receiving any kind of post-launch support. For DQ we're only getting what was already done for the japanese audience (plus additional tweaks, sans passwords and freebies), and anything new would likely be just stuff added to the Switch version, and even then I doubt whatever that content is will be available in other platforms.

They are offering the stuff in the Switch/XB1 World of Final Fantasy port as dlc for PS4 I think. So some hope.
 

Bitanator

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Oct 27, 2017
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What spots should I look for new recipes? Besides running around after bookshelves, I mean

You can find them in treasure chests too. Petty soon you will get a new key to search all the red doors, you will find useful recipes in there. At this time you should be able to get great staff and greatswords right now, and daggers for Erik with some decent armor, clothes ect..
 

noyram23

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
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I think Opa-Pa's answer got the spirit. The game is vague you don't need to think too much, especially those involved in time-travel.
However there are something you can figure out easily, like whether yggdrasil is the dragon lord in DQ1 (the answer is no, see here #9104).
To explain Erdwin was alive but Calasmos still happened ----- you can use history converging theory to explain, see #8897 . For example, Erdwin was alive because of your effort, however Calasmos revived through another route so the story of DQ11 still exist; the only difference was how Erdwin died. But again, you don't need to think too much about this.
Regarding the sword that DQ1 hero inherited, actually it could be anything; in NES DQ3 end, the equipments on your hero were what would show in the ending scripts.

I notice that in EN ver. they changed a lot of text. In JP ending, it revealed that Roto, this very title(yes, it's a title, not an actual name in DQ3) ,was originated from DQ11.
ah makes sense about the dragon lord, it's decades since I played DQ1. Regarding the timeline so it's basically 'variable and constant' time nodes trope. It makes sense, it's kinda shitty that MC left his friends in the OG timeline and also explains why they kept saying they're always having a deja vu. I miss the game already, hoping that DQ12 won't be too long.
 

Gloomz

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Oct 27, 2017
2,402
Is there a way to remove the little annoying low-quality-ish sounds that play after you click an ability, or attack in combat? Or heal yourself out of party? Loading screen steps, etc.
 

Pancho

Avenger
Nov 7, 2017
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So what exactly is a good MC build? Right now he's not being very useful besides having high defense.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Every RPG needs a speed up button. Every one.

That said, still having a lot of fun. Being my first DQ game I feel like they're doing a bunch of things based on tradition? Like all the functions the churches serve.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Bandung Indonesia
Only those in the front are effective. You can easily sense this mechanism by equipping Erik with pirate's pendant. Whether he is in front or not will make a big difference.

In front, you mean one of four main active party or in front mean the very leftmost position on the active party?

While I am at it, how can we check Accolades that we haven't accomplished yet?
 

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What equipments should I buy on casino to get the trophie? lol

Also, reached level 99 with all of the characters but for some of them I couldn't get enough points to pick all the abilities. Is that normal?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So what exactly is a good MC build? Right now he's not being very useful besides having high defense.

If you go greatsword with him he can absolutely be the strongest physical attacker in the game. Dual sword offers good dps with screen-clearing utility, very useful in many situations. Sword and shield...... hmmm well I don't personally use it, since I use him as a good/great physical attacker that can also heal.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What equipments should I buy on casino to get the trophie? lol

Also, reached level 99 with all of the characters but for some of them I couldn't get enough points to pick all the abilities. Is that normal?

The swimsuits? But that wasn't a blue so I thought you can get them somewhere else... apparently not? Weird......

That whip is a requirement for the strongest whip in the game tho.
 

Himemomoko

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Aug 29, 2018
537
In front, you mean one of four main active party or in front mean the very leftmost position on the active party?

While I am at it, how can we check Accolades that we haven't accomplished yet?

ah, sorry my words were confusing. I meant active party.

No way to check unaccomplished accolades in-game though. You need a guide.(like that spreadsheet)

What equipments should I buy on casino to get the trophie? lol

Also, reached level 99 with all of the characters but for some of them I couldn't get enough points to pick all the abilities. Is that normal?

Only the swimsuit and some recipes(costumes related) in casino are required for trophies.
Normal. It is intended.
 

Huggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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How's the harder enemies hard mode? Thinking of restarting and giving it a go since I'm only like 5 hours in and the game has been really easy. But then I see many saying it's extremely hard. So would you say that the hard mode needs lots of grinding or can you get by with just some grinding and good use of strategy?
 

PancakeFlip

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Oct 26, 2017
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If you go greatsword with him he can absolutely be the strongest physical attacker in the game. Dual sword offers good dps with screen-clearing utility, very useful in many situations. Sword and shield...... hmmm well I don't personally use it, since I use him as a good/great physical attacker that can also heal.

Really? I thought dual weilding Erik was the best attacker in the game? Give him 2 of those earring knives, divide and he can hit an enemy 12 times in one move. It usually garuntees I kill a metal enemy if it doesn't run after the first turn.
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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So huh... what weapon build did you guys go for

Hendrik? I just got him in my party and suddenly I have 73p to spend lol

Earlier in the thread it was suggested to have greatsword till you have everyone back again, then switch to axe, I think? With Unbridled Blade being his best GS skill.

I also stopped yesterday right after getting him as a proper party member, though, so I haven't put points anywhere yes.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Really? I thought dual weilding Erik was the best attacker in the game? Give him 2 of those earring knives, divide and he can hit an enemy 12 times in one move. It usually garuntees I kill a metal enemy if it doesn't run after the first turn.

Erik can be the highest physical attacker yes, but he requires setup: First he must use divide, for example, and divide disappears on every other turn, etc etc, requiring constant upkeep. The Hero, and Jade, is much more consistent in terms of delivering constant damage.

I actually haven't even seen his divide/falcon slash/oomphle outdamage Hero's unbridled's Oomphle, although yes if some of the hits deal critical he can sometimes outdamage the hero. But the Hero (and Jade) brings so much to the table during boss/hard battles, IMO, especially during the ones where you are timed.
 
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Himemomoko

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Aug 29, 2018
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What? That's stupid as hell. How can a completionist knows which to pursue then? That's a strange decision.

haha, this game was designed for everyone, not specifically for completionist. Without those tremendous accolades' lists, people might feel much more accessible and less pressure. (OK just my guess :P)

How's the harder enemies hard mode? Thinking of restarting and giving it a go since I'm only like 5 hours in and the game has been really easy. But then I see many saying it's extremely hard. So would you say that the hard mode needs lots of grinding or can you get by with just some grinding and good use of strategy?

In terms of enemies' status, HP and MP are increased by 50% while str, def and agi increased by 30%. Some bosses will have extra move in hard mode.

Regarding the grinding, you can barely beat bosses at low level or you can beat them at proper level with some tension. You can always grind to cap level (if you turn on the exp reduction) and beat them without much strategy. There are videos on youtube that beat every boss in hard mode(6 modifers) at capped level. I can see the uploader is completely new to this game yet beat every boss without relying on specific strategy(his skill usage is not optimized. his damage dealing is not maximized either.) or referring to equipment guide (his weapons are not optimal nearly all the time). That means the game is very flexible, how much RNG/difficulty you feel is really depending on your playing style.
 
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This Crossbow challenges are so tedious -______________________________________________________-

Once this is done, all that's left is level 99 trophies and the final final boss trophy... I intend to make the latter my last one and platinum trophy---the screenshot during the trophy popping out isn't blocked, right? Lol.
 

texhnolyze

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Oct 25, 2017
23,150
Indonesia
Looool I just remember something now.

Even though I've beaten quite a huge amount of post-game content and min-maxing everyone before beating the final boss, I've never actually used any of the seeds. I keep thinking "I'll save them for later" and yet I completely forgot to use them.

Also, since the spoiler is kinda dead already, I'm cross-posting this here.
Anyone have the gif version of this puff puff?

661CC904304AC2B2EE7AB85780ACBFFC51577A60


I think it's time to put an end to that DQVIII imagery for what puff puff really is.