Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh’s College

Maxim726x · Sep 23, 2018

This shit is fucking nuts.

Seems like some sort of cosmic justice for stealing Garland's seat.

If he is a serial offender, he should withdraw himself... Because after Flake, there only needs to be one more deflector. And if there are MORE than 2 claimants then it's well beyond possible that he doesn't get voted in.

Enduin · Sep 23, 2018

B-Dubs said:

That is fucking horrendous. That does line up with Ramirez's experience and gives it more credence, albeit a major escalation from what she described.

SaintBowWow · Sep 23, 2018

If what Avenatti's saying is true then this guy is TOAST

Deleted member 21339 · Sep 23, 2018

Holy shit at Mark Judge's ex-gf relating that story of him and a group of friends fucking an inebriated girl

brochiller · Sep 23, 2018

SaintBowWow said:
Even if Dems take the Senate in November, the GOP still has through December to confirm a Justice.

If McConnell tries pushing that through in a truly lame duck senate when he wouldn't even hear a justice nominated by a president with over a year left in his term, I don't know if I'd be able to handle it.

SaintBowWow · Sep 23, 2018

brochiller said:
If McConnell tries pushing that through in a truly lame duck senate when he wouldn't even hear a justice nominated by a president with over a year left in his term, I don't know if I'd be able to handle it.

Oh but you know he would

Futureman · Sep 23, 2018

JB1981 said:
Holy shit at Mark Judge's ex-gf relating that story of him and a group of friends fucking an inebriated girl

Where is this?

Deleted member 42 · Sep 23, 2018

It'll be weird seeing Aventatti go full court press ASAP, considering his game with Cohen was to just meter things out slowly

Protein · Sep 23, 2018

Bryce Kavanaugh

Maxim726x · Sep 23, 2018

SaintBowWow said:
Oh but you know he would

He'll certainly try.

Can't do much if two or more members of his party refuse to play ball... And they just may, in light of these allegations.

brochiller · Sep 23, 2018

B-Dubs said:

What. The. FUCK.

StopMakingSense · Sep 23, 2018

BronsonLee said:
It'll be weird seeing Aventatti go full court press ASAP, considering his game with Cohen was to just meter things out slowly

Well with Cohen they still had to skirt around the edges of the NDA. Also once Cohen was raided their involvement got a little sidelined. This is a whole other thing.

Sho_Nuff82 · Sep 23, 2018

SaintBowWow said:
We're not sure how the other justices would vote, but if Kavanaugh is the only nominee they can find with this opinion then I'm going to assume it's unpopular even among conservative judges.

Republicans wouldn't be pushing so hard for an anti-Roe v Wade/presidential immunity judge unless they had verbal confirmation that one or more judges were on board. It simply doesn't make sense to expend the political capital otherwise.

Mitch McConnell is overly cautious. He doesn't bring things to a vote unless the votes are assured. Which is why he flatly stated that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. The hemming and hawing of Collins and Murkowski and Sasse is just for show, unless Brett withdraws he's going to get in.

Kurdel · Sep 23, 2018

B-Dubs said:

Christ ok this might be what does it

But the GOP will never cease to surprise me, so who knows

lmcfigs · Sep 23, 2018

Sho_Nuff82 said:
Republicans wouldn't be pushing so hard for an anti-Roe v Wade/presidential immunity judge unless they had verbal confirmation that one or more judges were on board. It simply doesn't make sense to expend the political capital otherwise.

Mitch McConnell is overly cautious. He doesn't bring things to a vote unless the votes are assured. Which is why he flatly stated that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. The hemming and hawing of Collins and Murkowski and Sasse is just for show, unless Brett withdraws he's going to get in.

We all already know Clarence Thomas keeps a MAGA hat at home.

Deleted member 21339 · Sep 23, 2018

Futureman said:
Where is this?

I meant Mark Judge partaking, not Kavanaugh.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...rett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez

I can't stand by and watch him lie." In an interview with The New Yorker, she said, "Mark told me a very different story." Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual. She said that Judge did not name others involved in the incident, and she has no knowledge that Kavanaugh participated. But Rasor was disturbed by the story and noted that it undercut Judge's protestations about the sexual innocence of Georgetown Prep.

Another woman who attended high school in the nineteen-eighties in Montgomery County, Maryland, where Georgetown Prep is located, also refuted Judge's account of the social scene at the time, sending a letter to Ford's lawyers saying that she had witnessed boys at parties that included Georgetown Prep students engaging in sexual misconduct. In an interview, the woman, who asked to have her name withheld for fear of political retribution, recalled that male students "would get a female student blind drunk" on what they called "jungle juice"—grain alcohol mixed with Hawaiian Punch—then try to take advantage of her. "It was disgusting," she said. "They treated women like meat."

LegendofJoe · Sep 23, 2018

JB1981 said:
Holy shit at Mark Judge's ex-gf relating that story of him and a group of friends fucking an inebriated girl

I had former friends that attempted to do this and wanted me to join in when I was in college. I put a stop to it, it fucking pisses me off that people that are supposed to be leaders are incapable of doing the same. Why do we even have a country if this is what we get?

Maxim726x · Sep 23, 2018

Sho_Nuff82 said:
Republicans wouldn't be pushing so hard for an anti-Roe v Wade/presidential immunity judge unless they had verbal confirmation that one or more judges were on board. It simply doesn't make sense to expend the political capital otherwise.

Mitch McConnell is overly cautious. He doesn't bring things to a vote unless the votes are assured. Which is why he flatly stated that Kavanaugh will be confirmed. The hemming and hawing of Collins and Murkowski and Sasse is just for show, unless Brett withdraws he's going to get in.

What has transpired in the last few hours changes everything, even the most cynical among us have to admit.

He *did* have the votes.

Cow Mengde · Sep 23, 2018

Stopping Kavanaugh from being nominated as SCOTUS will be the first real victory after 2016. Let see if Dems can pull it off.

Airing of Grievances · Sep 23, 2018

All of you getting all delighted with that Avenatti tweet better think real hard about the consequences if he's fucking around for his own gain at a time like this. The implications for victims of sex crimes and their credibility is at stake and I don't trust something like that in the hands of a narcissist.

Christian · Sep 23, 2018

B-Dubs said:

This is getting pretty specific in identifying behavior, especially considering Judge's wife refers to the same type of stuff in her letter, and it's horrifying.

FantasticMrFoxdie · Sep 23, 2018

no fucking words.

hydrophilic attack · Sep 23, 2018

the republicans must have known about some of this right? why didn't they just, you know, select a candidate who is not a sexual predator

Kurdel · Sep 23, 2018

Maxim726x said:
What has transpired in the last few hours changes everything, even the most cynical among us have to admit.

He *did* have the votes.

Yeah, f\second allegation could have easily been dismissed like the first one, but the whole gang rape situation is going to be a brisge too far for a few Republicans.

Nelo Ice · Sep 23, 2018

GOP about to triple down and being out the softball team.

Maxim726x · Sep 23, 2018

Cow Mengde said:
Stopping Kavanaugh from being nominated as SCOTUS will be the first real victory after 2016. Let see if Dems can pull it off.

A bit strong, I would count McCain's famous 'thumbs down' vote the first victory since 2016.

This would be the biggest, though.

Deleted member 21339 · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
All of you getting all delighted with that Avenatti tweet better think real hard about the consequences if he's fucking around for his own gain at a time like this. The implications for victims of sex crimes and their credibility is at stake and I don't trust something like that in the hands of a narcissist.

His email appears to correspond with some of the details reported in the New Yorker piece, although his allegations are much more severe.

Airing of Grievances · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
All of you getting all delighted with that Avenatti tweet better think real hard about the consequences if he's fucking around for his own gain at a time like this. The implications for victims of sex crimes and their credibility is at stake and I don't trust something like that in the hands of a narcissist.

The biggest red flag being that someone with such critically important information going to Avenatti is a bit bizarre. The biggest law firms on the planet would take up such a case instantly, why him?

Novel Mike · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
All of you getting all delighted with that Avenatti tweet better think real hard about the consequences if he's fucking around for his own gain at a time like this. The implications for victims of sex crimes and their credibility is at stake and I don't trust something like that in the hands of a narcissist.

I think everyone realizes that but Avenatti brought the receipts multiple times now with the Stormy Daniels case. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for that reason alone, he may be a prick in his own right but hes a major reason all of the Cohen stuff came to light.

Airing of Grievances said:
The biggest red flag being that someone with such critically important information going to Avenatti is a bit bizarre. The biggest law firms on the planet would take up such a case instantly, why him?

Because hes willing to take on Trump and Republicans and has been in the spotlight getting shit done for Stormy Daniels for months now?

Sho_Nuff82 · Sep 23, 2018

Futureman said:
Where is this?

LegendofJoe · Sep 23, 2018

Cow Mengde said:
Stopping Kavanaugh from being nominated as SCOTUS will be the first real victory after 2016. Let see if Dems can pull it off.

I guess you were asleep last year when the Democrats made huge gains in Virginia and stole a Senate seat in Alabama.

Deleted member 21339 · Sep 23, 2018

Sho_Nuff82 said:

Yep what I just pointed out upthread ha

JCizzle · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
The biggest red flag being that someone with such critically important information going to Avenatti is a bit bizarre. The biggest law firms on the planet would take up such a case instantly, why him?

Because he recently defeated the President in court?

Sho_Nuff82 · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
The biggest red flag being that someone with such critically important information going to Avenatti is a bit bizarre. The biggest law firms on the planet would take up such a case instantly, why him?

People trust Avanetti with leaks, because he's a showman and doesn't out his sources. It's fairly obvious that he's been getting information he shouldn't have for most of the year. The Cohen banking information and the Cohen consultant payments were people inside government institutions dropping leads on his desk. Illegally in the former case.

chubigans · Sep 23, 2018

Airing of Grievances said:
All of you getting all delighted with that Avenatti tweet better think real hard about the consequences if he's fucking around for his own gain at a time like this. The implications for victims of sex crimes and their credibility is at stake and I don't trust something like that in the hands of a narcissist.

Yeah, he has the power to blow this up on both sides. Honestly I wish it was any other lawyer besides him.

Dyle · Sep 23, 2018

This is really escalating quickly now, it's going to get much harder from this point on for the gop to continue supporting him.

Airing of Grievances · Sep 23, 2018

JCizzle said:
Because he recently defeated the President in court?

Either way, any reporter with any sense at all should hold off on touching anything he's saying until he lays it all out.

Sho_Nuff82 · Sep 23, 2018

hydrophilic attack said:
the republicans must have known about some of this right? why didn't they just, you know, select a candidate who is not a sexual predator

2016 asked the same question.

Hazzuh · Sep 23, 2018

Avenatti's reality tv bullshit is gross considering we're talking about allegation of gang rape. If he has evidence he should produce it immediately.

JayC3 · Sep 23, 2018

@annalecta
If the name Louisa Garry—one of Brett Kavanaugh's Yale classmates disputing Deborah Ramirez's sexual misconduct claim— looks familiar, it might because she was recently featured in a pro-Kavanaugh ad by 501(c)(4) "dark money" group Judicial Crisis Network http://nyer.cm/kR9eyY1

6:28 PM - Sep 23, 2018 · Washington, DC

metalslimer · Sep 23, 2018

Dont know why people dont trust avenatti when he always delivers

rucury · Sep 23, 2018

I mean, I know we all want to like Avenatti because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" or something, but the dude comes off as shady and seems to feed off of the attention he gets. In any case, we all know that the GOP has no moral compass and will absolutely push for the confirmation of Mr. No-Means-Yes-And-Yes-Means-Anal. I don't believe the new allegations will change any of their votes.

B-Dubs · Sep 23, 2018

JayC3 said:

So they knew this one was coming as well.

Deleted member 21339 · Sep 23, 2018

JayC3 said:

Wow

Deleted member 3896 · Sep 23, 2018

Hazzuh said:
Avenatti's reality tv bullshit is gross considering we're talking about allegation of gang rape. If he has evidence he should produce it immediately.

Avenatti understands the grotesque climate we're living in and how to work with it.

mjp2417 · Sep 23, 2018

hydrophilic attack said:
the republicans must have known about some of this right? why didn't they just, you know, select a candidate who is not a sexual predator

While conservative jurists willing to repeal Roe vs. Wade are a dime a dozen, conservative jurists who are willing to do that and hold extreme views about the latitude of executive power and are almost certainly fully bought and paid for are much, much rarer.

Deleted member 9135 · Sep 23, 2018

This is unreal.

BigWinnie1 · Sep 23, 2018

Hazzuh said:
Avenatti's reality tv bullshit is gross considering we're talking about allegation of gang rape. If he has evidence he should produce it immediately.

He doesn't out his sources at all. If he got questions like that all it means is that he already has answers and will go to court with them if he has to. He may be Vain but the man doesn't bluff without shit to back himself up.

Its how he blew Cohen and Trump up in court. He bluffed them into slipping and then hit them with information he had gotten from sources inside the government and tax offices that were given to him to hit back.

He is going to wait until his Client wants to go public or somebody slips up enough so he can dunk on them.

rucury · Sep 23, 2018

Mercury Fred said:
Avenatti understands the grotesque climate we're living in and how to work with it.

yeah, thats it... Right... He uses the other side's tricks against them, uh huh...

Bandage · Sep 23, 2018

Dyle said:
This is really escalating quickly now, it's going to get much harder from this point on for the gop to continue supporting him.

The GOP would support mecha-devil-Hitler-Stalin if it meant they could strip rights away from women and minorities.
They dont give a shit about anything else.

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