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ColdSun

Together, we are strangers
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
3,290
Twitter, be it support, moderation, or really anything regarding policy, has and will likely always be completely random. I wish you the best on your second appeal.
 

LookAtMeGo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,136
a parallel universe
Ah shit man that sucks. You're good shit. You could always make a thread about havin a poop but I imagine there would have to be something special about that poop to not have it locked.

Sucks about the ban but unfortunately everything sucks nowadays.
 

KelticNight

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,835
I can turn the air blue as fuck when I want to but I think I'd draw the line at something as blunt as "kill yourself". Just comes across as crass, regardless of context. It's like swearing on your kids life when you believe something.

It's not "edgy banter", it's shit banter.
 

Deleted member 43077

User requested account closure
Banned
May 9, 2018
5,741
someone I know got their Twitter account suspended for no apparent reason.

Still not accessible like 8 months later lmao
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,686
I can turn the air blue as fuck when I want to but I think I'd draw the line at something as blunt as "kill yourself". Just comes across as crass, regardless of context. It's like swearing on your kids life when you believe something.

It's not "edgy banter", it's shit banter.
Bingo. It should never be done, I'm quite disappointed to see it, and a ban is highly appropriate.
 

lacer

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,693
seems like a lot of folks itt don't use twitter that often. there are accounts dedicated to using bots to abuse the report system over shit like this, eg the recently shuttered ThreatSensei.

also "better to err on the edge of caution" folks def don't use the site considering how one-sided and shitty Twitter actually is about moderating comments. for all the pantshitting conservatives do about shadowbanning they sure do get the benefit of the doubt incredibly frequently. the amount of racist eggs that get away with actual death threats to strangers (as opposed to goofy banter between friends) is staggering
 
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EatChildren

Wonder from Down Under
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,029
Doubling down on the ban is such an odd perspective, as if appealing and attempting to get what was fundamentally a misinterpretation is somehow wrong.

I hardly rely on my twitter account but I was a pretty active user. I engaged with quite a lot of people and used it regularly for a good bit of banter, usually surrounding games and whatnot. I posted more on twitter than here by a significant margin, because it allowed for far more casual and open conversation than the thread categorisation of a forum. It's frustrating to think that in order to reengage with that community I need to try and remember everyone I followed, and convince those that were following and engaging with me that my new account is actually me. And honestly I'm certain that is probably a breach of twitter's ToS too; creating an alt-account after being permanently suspended.

And again, I'm happy to cop a temporary suspension or whatever and I understand how the tweet was misinterpreted. But with human intervention this should be easily resolved; I can clearly explain the context of the tweet, and the main party to which it was directed (Dascu) can also vouch for it. No offence was intended or received, irrespective of twitter or anyone else here's perspective of the tweet itself.

So yeah. I'm just disappointed that this is all it takes to have my platform permanently flushed. No warning. No "time out". No discourse. Just the presumption that my entire account is a platform for violent threats that despite no history of prior ToS breaches warrants nothing less than a permanent ban.

Obviously I'll get over it and move on. I'm more annoyed at the leg work I need to do to get back to where I was.
 

Deleted member 134

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,411
User banned (permanent): Persistent hostility towards staff dating back to the site's development and launch. Recently banned 1 month for pursuing similar vendetta against another member.
Seems like Resetera moderation leaked onto Twitter.
 

Dead Man

Member
Nov 1, 2017
569
Yeah. Even if you think the joke was poorly considered, nuking the account is a massive over reaction. Be nice if they could be so harsh on actual hateful fuckwits.
 

H2Yo

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
919
Melbourne, Australia
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Despite the aggressive language, the tweet was not a threat. I can't remember exactly what the context of the banter with Dascu (who posts here), but given the Mercury Steam tag in it was something along the lines of me sending my regards to the dev team for their superb work on Metroid: Samus Returns along with my hopes for a sequel. And Dascu replying with something along the lines of "You'll get Other M 2" or whatever (I actually think the it was something completely different, but along the same wavelength of suggesting a title I'd knowingly detest), and me bantering back with a faux threat of murder.

This post was made...god knows how long ago. Months. It's not even in the ballpark of recent. Could even be close to if not a year ago, given Samus Returns is about that old. But yeah, it was either dug up and reported, or Twitter's dumbass algorithm has flagged it as a threat without context and nuked my account.

I've put through an appeal, because there's no timed temporary suspension noted on my account. It's just flat out flushed. Anybody else had this happen and what the odds are on a successful appeal?

I think you deserve it, bud. You go around speaking like that and want to appeal? Get outta here :P
 

Andy Mac

Banned
Jun 28, 2018
217
Twitter is not private unless you DM. This tweet also doens't look like friendly banter on it's own.

Let's say we had a threat on Era discussing Internet outrage at this developer. And someone links to your tweet (and from others) and you were not semi-known on Era here?

What would be the most likely response?

a) Oh those jokers! Everyone knows they don't mean it.
or
b) fucking gamers, manbabies, etc.

Then the moral of the story is "don't jump to conclusions".

Reading some of the responses here and it seems like a lot of people agree with "context doesn't matter" and "just take your punishment".

Of course seeing the message "I'll fucking kill you" with zero context whatsoever can look bad but there IS context so who cares if it looks bad?

This is the weirdest thing about "death threats" on the internet, Some kid 1000s of miles away saying "i will kill you" is different from some guy in your local area sending "Mr X, who lives at number Y on Z street I am going to come for you and kill you".

And those are different again to banter between friends.

There is always context. Always.

It just feels here that many people are hungry for a quick bit of outrage and drama.

Forget context.
It's not a good look.
Now eat your Punishment.
Repeat.

Nobody has time to sit down and say "OK, this is 2 friends joking around, no punishment, move on"?

If this took place in the real world you'd hear "I'll fucking kill you" and be thinking "whaaaat" but then you'd see it's just two friends joking around and that would be the end of that.

Online you end up with a 223 post thread where a group of people discuss whether or not that can even be defined as "fun" and if we've considered Steve from England who got a death threat last week and might be triggered if he sees the tweet and doesn't know the context and how would Twitter even know it was a joke. Just take the ban and don't make waves. WTF?
 

Kyougar

Cute Animal Whisperer
Member
Nov 3, 2017
9,354
Then the moral of the story is "don't jump to conclusions".

Reading some of the responses here and it seems like a lot of people agree with "context doesn't matter" and "just take your punishment".

Of course seeing the message "I'll fucking kill you" with zero context whatsoever can look bad but there IS context so who cares if it looks bad?

This is the weirdest thing about "death threats" on the internet, Some kid 1000s of miles away saying "i will kill you" is different from some guy in your local area sending "Mr X, who lives at number Y on Z street I am going to come for you and kill you".

And those are different again to banter between friends.

There is always context. Always.

It just feels here that many people are hungry for a quick bit of outrage and drama.

Forget context.
It's not a good look.
Now eat your Punishment.
Repeat.

Nobody has time to sit down and say "OK, this is 2 friends joking around, no punishment, move on"?

If this took place in the real world you'd hear "I'll fucking kill you" and be thinking "whaaaat" but then you'd see it's just two friends joking around and that would be the end of that.

Online you end up with a 223 post thread where a group of people discuss whether or not that can even be defined as "fun" and if we've considered Steve from England who got a death threat last week and might be triggered if he sees the tweet and doesn't know the context and how would Twitter even know it was a joke. Just take the ban and don't make waves. WTF?

So, do you do it for every random tweet you come across? Would you defend a random person in the next thread that talks about misogyny, (sexual) harassment, death threats, alt-right talking points in tweets?
Maybe they were friends, maybe they were joking, how would you know that?
 

Andy Mac

Banned
Jun 28, 2018
217
So, do you do it for every random tweet you come across? Would you defend a random person in the next thread that talks about misogyny, (sexual) harassment, death threats, alt-right talking points in tweets?
Maybe they were friends, maybe they were joking, how would you know that?

I wouldn't know. I wouldn't "defend" them either.

I would stop for a moment and figure out the situation and then make a judgement based on that.

I mean, it seems to me that jumping in with two feet and administering a punishment as quickly as possible with no consideration of circumstances is objectively a bad thing to do.

As you say, maybe they were friends, maybe they were joking. So how do we make the leap from "i can't know for sure" to "punish them anyway"?

In this specific situation we DO know and people still want to see the punishment anyway. WTF?