Nintendo Switch Online Release Thread

I think the Cloud Save system is working as intended for the most part. It's just really slow when it coms to backing up old saves that haven't been in use or that could be bugged. They're waiting to be uploaded but I think the system has no reason to force them through quickly for some reason.

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Any game you currently running though gets uploaded automatically. No questions asked as they should. If you clear out the "waiting" message you can manually upload the older saves right away. The issue is waiting for the system to upload older and non-in use saves.

Beje said:

If you're on wifi, make sure you're connected to the 5GHz network. It gives a lot of trouble on standard 2.4GHz.

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This. It also seems like the Switch wifi parts aren't givne as much power as they should be. At least that's what I recall reading around launch. Yeah using the 5ghz network is best since many things don't use it by default. That and have your Switch closer rather then farther away from the router.

I also think too that making sure one's router is a recent one is a good bet as well. I remember around launch when we were talking about this a LOT of people had very old routers. They were still working fine but they should have been updated a while ago. I remember updating mine at the time overall just got better coverage then what I had before.

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jts said:

I... like it? I'm not unhappy at all. It's cheap, my Zelda save is safe and the NES games are fun. Could it be better? Sure. Would I expect better at 20/year or even as low as 5/year if in a family plan? Nope. No way. Not in 2018. People are complaining now but there's a timeline where Nintendo actually charged a Nintendo price for it and everyone would say it would be worth it if it was as low as 20 per year.

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Is a standard voice chat solution too much to ask?

Beje said:

If you're on wifi, make sure you're connected to the 5GHz network. It gives a lot of trouble on standard 2.4GHz.

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Effect said:

This. It also seems like the Switch wifi parts aren't givne as much power as they should be. At least that's what I recall reading around launch. Yeah using the 5ghz network is best since many things don't use it by default. That and have your Switch closer rather then farther away from the router.

I also think too that making sure one's router is a recent one is a good bet as well. I remember around launch when we were talking about this a LOT of people had very old routers. They were still working fine but they should have been updated a while ago. I remember updating mine at the time overall just got better coverage then what I had before.

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Tron1 said:

Is a standard voice chat solution too much to ask?

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If it means sacrificing system resources for other things, yes.

fourfourfun said:

If it means sacrificing system resources for other things, yes.

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Ha!

Fyi, I'm sure someone picked up on it. My save back up didn't get all games. Not the unsupported games but the supported games. I have automatic back up on but a few games are sitting, 'waiting to back up...'

I'm connected to the internet. I have to manually turn off automatic back up, force a back up and restart automatic back up.

Maybe it started and I moved my switch from wifi. But I initiated switch online at home, played some Zelda 1 and went to sleep at 12am. Went to work the next day at 7am. I assume it does back up while in sleep mode.

Either way, just check on your back ups.

fourfourfun said:

If it means sacrificing system resources for other things, yes.

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because voice chat is very demanding /s

Hyperfludd said:

Thanks!

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No problem! :)

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I think much of the vitriol has evaporated once people actually started using it. Yes, it's still not great, but it's functional at the very least.

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Who is this? Sonic Yuji Naka?

Bob Beat said:

Fyi, I'm sure someone picked up on it. My save back up didn't get all games. Not the unsupported games but the supported games. I have automatic back up on but a few games are sitting, 'waiting to back up...'

I'm connected to the internet. I have to manually turn off automatic back up, force a back up and restart automatic back up.

Maybe it started and I moved my switch from wifi. But I initiated switch online at home, played some Zelda 1 and went to sleep at 12am. Went to work the next day at 7am. I assume it does back up while in sleep mode.

Either way, just check on your back ups.

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I'm having a similar issue. I can force a backup if I turn off auto, but with auto on it just says "waiting" for everything. It seems like if I play one of the "waiting" games it proceeds to then back it up, and I did a full power-cycle of the system and then it backed up the first game in the list then resumed the "waiting" for the rest, so I feel like there's some weird shit goin on here. I'm gonna leave a few that I don't care a ton about in the waiting state I think just to see if they ever start.

Bob Beat said:

Fyi, I'm sure someone picked up on it. My save back up didn't get all games. Not the unsupported games but the supported games. I have automatic back up on but a few games are sitting, 'waiting to back up...'

I'm connected to the internet. I have to manually turn off automatic back up, force a back up and restart automatic back up.

Maybe it started and I moved my switch from wifi. But I initiated switch online at home, played some Zelda 1 and went to sleep at 12am. Went to work the next day at 7am. I assume it does back up while in sleep mode.

Either way, just check on your back ups.

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A load of mine say "Backup pending" and it only actually does it if I force it to.

Should ve able to full backup everything. But it doesnt work.

Have they changed the way P2P online games works to some other communication method? I played Rocket League now, and I don't remember it ever felt so smooth online as it did today.

Question: Is the credit card on the family account accessible to all accounts in the family group for eShop purchases? Or is it only for the subscription renewal?

I played soccer and ice hockey for like three hours last night

Sorry if this has been brought up, but is there a way to get rid of the "Press + for Start" etc reminders at the bottom of the screen on NES games?

SonicRift said:

Sorry if this has been brought up, but is there a way to get rid of the "Press + for Start" etc reminders at the bottom of the screen on NES games?

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Oh god please yes.

I think the news and shop could have been merged and redone a bit to make it like a feeling of something substantial like your console now is apart of something.

It just seems so lackluster...really launched with a whimper.

Atheerios said:

Very interesting.. The NES emulator is just a port from the NES classic one.

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yeah, i cant believe nintendo wouldn't remake another damn emulator for nes so that it can do the exact same thing. HOW DARE THEY. WOW. SO LAZY.

Yea. This only makes sense. No reason to start from scratch when you have a perfectly fine emulator already.

Tathanen said:

I'm having a similar issue. I can force a backup if I turn off auto, but with auto on it just says "waiting" for everything. It seems like if I play one of the "waiting" games it proceeds to then back it up, and I did a full power-cycle of the system and then it backed up the first game in the list then resumed the "waiting" for the rest, so I feel like there's some weird shit goin on here. I'm gonna leave a few that I don't care a ton about in the waiting state I think just to see if they ever start.

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At the moment, it only backs-up the recent games you're playing. Everything you're not playing will stay pending, unless you cancel or manually upload.

So you either have to start each game or upload each one.

Had a really fun lobby tonight on Party Mode in ARMS. There were like 8 people in the chat. We all decided at one point to be Helix.
It was my first ever voice chat experience (no Xbox or PS4), and it was surprisingly fun. I'm pleasantly surprised with NSO so far.

The 'free' NES titles are a bad joke. At the VERY least, it ought to contain every title on NES Mini at minimum, and really SNES Mini, and the hypothetical N64 Mini to be somewhat proper of an offering — 20 games per console, 60 games.

Nintendo's stinginess with their back catalog here is absurd.

Im quite liking the virtual nes app. Great pick up and play games in there like mario and double dragon.

I think eventually we should see apps for snes, N64, GC, Wii, GB, GBA. DS not sure because of the double screen touch setup.

Whats more interesting if we will see other consoles from Sega and Neo Geo. I think eventually they will charge an extra fee per console. I could probably just subscribe to all the virtual consoles and only play those and buy an occasional new release. I mean you could have thousands of Retro games at your disposal and just keep it to a subscription for a very long time.

TheMisterManGuy said:

I think much of the vitriol has evaporated once people actually started using it. Yes, it's still not great, but it's functional at the very least.

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(also wrote on Twitter to him directly, the guy replied competitors use AWS and Azure, which I'm not sure it makes 100% sense)

His article seems to suggest Sony and MS use dedicated servers while Nintendo relies on P2P (and hence it's cheaper).

As far as I know very few (if any) stuff in the console space have dedicated servers... am I utterly wrong?!

I might be really blind, but where are people finding the screen filter settings? I can't see them anywhere. Thanks.

K Samedi said:

Im quite liking the virtual nes app. Great pick up and play games in there like mario and double dragon.

I think eventually we should see apps for snes, N64, GC, Wii, GB, GBA. DS not sure because of the double screen touch setup.

Whats more interesting if we will see other consoles from Sega and Neo Geo. I think eventually they will charge an extra fee per console. I could probably just subscribe to all the virtual consoles and only play those and buy an occasional new release. I mean you could have thousands of Retro games at your disposal and just keep it to a subscription for a very long time.

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I don't think we'll see other non Nintendo consoles. Or if we do they'll be like the Mega Drive Collection.

And I think that's fine! Just wish Nintendo would release SNES, N64, GBA Etc. Games more quickly.

smashnallTaz said:

I might be really blind, but where are people finding the screen filter settings? I can't see them anywhere. Thanks.

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On the game selection screen, left hand side at the bottom is Settings, you should find it there!

Seems China's Switch owners are sort of screwed with Nintendo's Online Service.

Reports have come back about people living in mainland China not being able to access the online service after purchasing it due to the google backend.

So, unless you have a VPN router with blazing fast net speeds, you might be screwed.

We don't know how this will affect games that worked with no problem while in China, like Mario Kart, Tennis, and Splatoon 2, but we know google backended games like Rocket League and Doom don't work period here.

Anyone think all of Nintendo's games will be backended by google, such as Smash?

Wrestling is the most hilarious shit I've played on Switch with a friend

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Seems China's Switch owners are sort of screwed with Nintendo's Online Service.

Reports have come back about people living in mainland China not being able to access the online service after purchasing it due to the google backend.

So, unless you have a VPN router with blazing fast net speeds, you might be screwed.

We don't know how this will affect games that worked with no problem while in China, like Mario Kart, Tennis, and Splatoon 2, but we know google backended games like Rocket League and Doom don't work period here.

Anyone think all of Nintendo's games will be backended by google, such as Smash?

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Has there a first party game that has had Google backend?

Anyone see anything like this in NA yet?

Where's Metroid? I thought it was one of the Launch NES titles for the service? Also it's criminal that Mario 2 isn't available at launch. Oh, another thing, how do they not have touchscreen support when in the NES app?

The general press is starting to call out Nintendo in their shitty online offering. It's a very good news, and I hope that disappointing results and online backlash will serve as a wake-up call for Nintendo.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...-widely-derided-online-offering/#.W6T4m-2xU0O

I haven't kept up on this thread since I've been super busy, but I just tried out the Zelda 1 and am I crazy or are the colors all wrong? The game looks completely washed out compared to playing the game on my Famicom or my Analogue NT. This isn't really at all what the game is supposed to look like...

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Where's Metroid? I thought it was one of the Launch NES titles for the service? Also it's criminal that Mario 2 isn't available at launch. Oh, another thing, how do they not have touchscreen support when in the NES app?

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Metroid is coming in November.


It will be cool to have access to the superior Famicom Disk System version, through the JP version of the NES app. :)

And when they release Mario 2, I hope that they also release Doki Doki Panic in Japan.

zakatana said:

The general press is starting to call out Nintendo in their shitty online offering. It's a very good news, and I hope that disappointing results and online backlash will serve as a wake-up call for Nintendo.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...-widely-derided-online-offering/#.W6T4m-2xU0O

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And again, much of these articles are based on pre-launch backlash. From what people have used it imply, it isn't as bad as what was initially feared, but it still needs a lot of work.

TheMisterManGuy said:

And again, much of these articles are based on pre-launch backlash. From what people have used it imply, it isn't as bad as what was initially feared, but it still needs a lot of work.

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Lol it's again Nakamura, the same guy of the tweet posted before (Bloomberg article)

He really disliked NSO.

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And again, much of these articles are based on pre-launch backlash. From what people have used it imply, it isn't as bad as what was initially feared, but it still needs a lot of work.

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I have the service. It absolutely sucks. It did before, except it was free. Now, if I want to continue playing games I purchased, I have to pay, but it didn't get any better.

zakatana said:

I have the service. It absolutely sucks. It did before, except it was free. Now, if I want to continue playing games I purchased, I have to pay, but it didn't get any better.

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Well, people don't seem to hate the current voice chat setup anymore since, especially since for games like MK8 DX its easy to set up and you can talk to randoms, and NES app has gotten good reception. Basically, it's still not great, but it's more adequate than what was initially speculated.

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Well, people don't seem to hate the current voice chat setup anymore since, especially since for games like MK8 DX its easy to set up and you can talk to randoms, and NES app has gotten good reception. Basically, it's still not great, but it's more adequate than what was initially speculated.

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Most people hate the current voice setup. the app is and always has been unacceptable. The best thing about NSO is the nes games but unless someone is playing online already or wants to, I wouldn't recommend it.

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I haven't kept up on this thread since I've been super busy, but I just tried out the Zelda 1 and am I crazy or are the colors all wrong? The game looks completely washed out compared to playing the game on my Famicom or my Analogue NT. This isn't really at all what the game is supposed to look like...

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Let me boot my original up and take a look. Just from the Switch though, it didn't appear bad or off color at all for me. Did you use the crt filter?

Lothars said:

Most people hate the current voice setup. the app is and always has been unacceptable. The best thing about NSO is the nes games but unless someone is playing online already or wants to, I wouldn't recommend it.

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The app is... fine. On-console chat should be an option but as it is I don't mind it. I'd say there's even some benefits; managing chat volume without a specialized headset and muting people without messing with the game by bringing up a UI is nice.

Mixing audio into a headset is a problem if you want that, of course. I personally use a USB headset for the Switch with earbuds underneath (with an in-line mic) plugged into my phone. I don't mind it but most would find it incredibly cumbersome.

JershJopstin said:

The app is... fine. On-console chat should be an option but as it is I don't mind it. I'd say there's even some benefits; managing chat volume without a specialized headset and muting people without messing with the game by bringing up a UI is nice.

Mixing audio into a headset is a problem if you want that, of course. I personally use a USB headset for the Switch with earbuds underneath (with an in-line mic) plugged into my phone. I don't mind it but most would find it incredibly cumbersome.

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I have no problem with the app existing because as you said it's fine but until it's optional and built into the console, I will continue to have issues with how voice chat is handled on the switch.

Moose the Fattest Cat said:

The 'free' NES titles are a bad joke. At the VERY least, it ought to contain every title on NES Mini at minimum, and really SNES Mini, and the hypothetical N64 Mini to be somewhat proper of an offering — 20 games per console, 60 games.

Nintendo's stinginess with their back catalog here is absurd.

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You do realise more games are coming every month?

Lothars said:

Most people hate the current voice setup. the app is and always has been unacceptable. The best thing about NSO is the nes games but unless someone is playing online already or wants to, I wouldn't recommend it.

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No, people who have used it said its actually better than they thought, but still needs an option to do it through the console like you said. You don't have to hate something to think it should be better.

TheMisterManGuy said:

No, people who have used it said its actually better than they thought, but still needs an option to do it through the console like you said. You don't have to hate something to think it should be better.

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Hate is the wrong word and I shouldn't have used it, my apologies but I don't think it's well received, It's just what we are forced to use.