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YongYea posts Halo Infinite microtransactions video (343i debunks real-money Lootbox concerns)
- Thread starter Cranster
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Sorry, I was agreeing. The irony of that quote being the 3rd reply when the OP is doing exactly what he's criticizing Yongyea of doing was too good.
I mean you can make money from gamer outrage so easily these days. From people who just have a light association with it like AngryJoe to people who make a living on bullshit like YongYea. He's one of the biggest offenders I've seen in this space. I used to think he was a watchdog and maybe he was but eventually, he either saw the dollar signs or couldn't see his morals anymore.
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And what exactly are Lootboxes? Microtransactions!
There is nothing misleading about the title.
I really enjoyed his MGS and Death Stranding stuff, but he's becoming just like every other channel on YouTube that focuses and builds/hams up news. It's such a shitty trend. I'm sure there's a bunch of channels with the same type of headline/thumbnail already.
What did he expect? That Microsoft's biggest franchise (that also happens to be multiplayer-focused) that's in development for 4-5 years wasn't going to have hefty support after launch?
What would he want instead? That the game no longer be supported after launch or Halo reverting back to map backs? No way.
What would he want instead? That the game no longer be supported after launch or Halo reverting back to map backs? No way.
Wait upon watching the video it doesn't seem he's referring to loot-boxes, but micro transactions. Even then though I don't see anything inherently wrong with a game having micro transactions, like why does it matter? 343i just stated it's not loot boxes, so what harm could other forms of monetization do?
Ok but that doesn't suddenly mean the OP title is accurate or that 343i said anything that disproves any poster of the video or his information as is stated in the OP soooo
Oh ok I see so it's totally OK for the OP to comepletely misrepresent the content of the video and claim that the info within it was disproven when it isn't even related to the tweet he lists? I'm posting because lying to make someone else look bad is not acceptable no matter where it originated from be that YouTube or this forum. But hey if you want to ignore that then go right ahead
YongYea has been doing this for some time now. His videos always seem to be riddled with his personal bias and misinformation (at least since I last saw his videos)
And yeah, it's totally a responsibility for youtubers to clear the air and report with facts. If he's gonna report fake information, then he's just as bad as the fake journalism boogeyman that crowd tends to whine about whenever they need a reason to be mad.
lmao, does he really think live service is another word for "microtransaction"
Literally all multiplayer games have some sort of psychology behind them to entice players to keep playing, they're not inherently malicious, most of the time if they were taken out people would COMPLAIN about not having a reason to play. And in this day and age, microtransactions are rather normal to use to fund a game rather than DLC's that split up the playerbase. Those two listings alone are not inherently malicious.
And yeah, it's totally a responsibility for youtubers to clear the air and report with facts. If he's gonna report fake information, then he's just as bad as the fake journalism boogeyman that crowd tends to whine about whenever they need a reason to be mad.
lmao, does he really think live service is another word for "microtransaction"
Literally all multiplayer games have some sort of psychology behind them to entice players to keep playing, they're not inherently malicious, most of the time if they were taken out people would COMPLAIN about not having a reason to play. And in this day and age, microtransactions are rather normal to use to fund a game rather than DLC's that split up the playerbase. Those two listings alone are not inherently malicious.
Lootboxes can be a form of microtransaction but microtransaction != lootbox. Pokemon Go is full of microtransactions but no lootboxes.
Didn't even know who he was. Looks like I'm not missing out at all.The disparity between good content on YT and bullshit that has made a commodity out of gamer™ outrage.
Any channe that resembles the cleanprincegaming style of Gamer™ news, Yongyea's included, is garbage and should be avoided:
Considering how must of youtubers can make a 20 min videos of recents news or even a phrase I am quite shocked about this guy material is straight out info of Gaf or Era
Like lootboxes it's a hot button issue for core video game consumers so tabloid-tier reporting of it makes for easy revenue.
No. Lootboxes a specific kind of microtansaction. Not all microtransactions are lootboxes but all lootboxes are a form of microtransactions. Thus the title is wrong and should be corrected
Again, just for anyone coming into the thread, OP is misleading.
Nowhere in the video is loot boxes mentioned.
The video points out that Halo Infinite is potentially a live-service game with micro transactions designed to keep people coming back by going through a job listing for a person with experience in designing things like that.
Nowhere in the video is loot boxes mentioned.
The video points out that Halo Infinite is potentially a live-service game with micro transactions designed to keep people coming back by going through a job listing for a person with experience in designing things like that.
Er, Yongyea ddnt say anything about loot boxes, but specifically their wish for people familiar with microtransactions and job postings relating to manipulation of player investment schemes. None of which has to do with loot boxes and everything to do with his general problem of "games as a service" damaging game design.
Before you try and attack someone, actually read what they are looking at.
Before you try and attack someone, actually read what they are looking at.
Microtransactions aren't limited to lootboxes though and he doesn't really bring up lootboxes directly. So your title is misleading, his video is kinda dumb though, no shit it was going to be a service game and why you'd even for a second think otherwise I don't know.
Thank you!
I get the hate for cleanprincegaming and some other channels but YongYea....?
Nah, leave my boy alone.
By the way even if he was wrong on this one, IGN ran copy&pasted reviews from that one guy for months.
But people expect perfection from some guy who pumps out free videos smh
oh man, that guy fucking sucks. Cleanprice gaming is just so bad. His video in a hotel with girl's legs in the background is just pathetic and his "essays" are trash.the cleanprincegaming style of Gamer™ news, Yongyea's included, is garbage and should be avoided:
Kudos to him for the time he spends editing but yeah, his content still sucks
I actually kinda like YongYea though, he always properly references articles and authors, something not a lot of people do
Dude....he doesn't mention lootboxes. Micro-transactions are any minor transaction of a single purchase(which can be a lootbox)....and 343i said there won't be any real money lootboxes but that doesn't mean they can't sell skins/outfits/boosts etc for a single upfront purchase.
a youtuber stoking false outrage to get clicks/views/subs?
YOU DON'T SAY.
(yes I know it's not ALL youtubers...)
YOU DON'T SAY.
(yes I know it's not ALL youtubers...)
I respect your studio Jstevenson, but youngyea has done good work for a long time to highlight malpractice in the industry.
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Except that is the big criticism of Micro-transactions. If Micro-transactions and DLC are one in the same then why were we not so against DLC maps back in 2004 up till 2009?
Again, Micro-transaction didn't become this feared world among gamers until Lootboxes became a thing. Before that it was simply referred to as DLC.
None of the information he reported is fake the job posting cited in the Codie specifically lists live service, microtransactions, business plans and psychological profiling. The amount of misinformation and dogpiling going on in this thread from people who are clearly misinformed is gross and y'all should be ashamed of yourselves
Loot boxes are a relatively new phenomenon. Oblivion horse armor and schemes to get people to buy that crap is not.
Why?
Check out the negativity threads on ERA, they're the most popular threads.
I mean, someone has to call you guys out when you remove MUH PUDDLES.
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Horse Armor was referred to as DLC back in 2006, not as a Micro-Transaction.
You should see the countless amount of channels devoted to repurposing all of the Red Dead Redemption 2 info over and over again. All they do is change the click bait video title. All of their shit videos are the first ones to pop up when searching for the game.
Bullshit clickbait YouTube videos? Wow, you don't say.
Stop Hyping Destiny 2 Forsaken (Warmind Was Cut Content & Bungie Might Sell Destiny)
Both statements are, of course, lies.
(This has 700k views.)
Stop Hyping Destiny 2 Forsaken (Warmind Was Cut Content & Bungie Might Sell Destiny)
Both statements are, of course, lies.
(This has 700k views.)
No it didnt? Micro-transactions are hated because its usually gated off content that is done in such a way that they make it so you want to pay actual money
and yes people were mad back then too, dont rewrite history
... you're better then this. Don't fall for the BS. Nothing he states in the video is false or misleading the only thing that is either of these is the OP. As someone employed in the industry who has been on the other side of these sorts of misleading mudslinging campaigns you should be very mindful of participating in this sort of thing. Watch the video and decide for yourself. I think you'll be surprised. If not feel free to comeback and respond telling me so
Plenty of people are. Microtransactions have always had a not insignificant amount of negative press, horse armour comes to mind for 1 from many moons ago.
The OP is misleading as to YongYea's actual issues in the video, but I still think he's very clickbaity and hyperbolic towards a game we practically know nothing about, let alone the type of progression/microtransactions the game has, so I think this video is still worth criticizing.
He went all in on the implosion of GAF being a smearing of EviLore's character too, rather than, you know, a vast majority of the community just being fed up with his shit.
Looking at his videos and it quickly becomes apparent that he's just another clickbait YouTuber. These guys don't care about facts they just stoke gamer anger to get clicks.
Also are people REALLY defending this guy??? Come on man...
Also are people REALLY defending this guy??? Come on man...
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The term Micro-transaction wasn't really used much in gaming untill mobile gaming caught on big and Lootboxes began to show up in AAA titles. Before that everything including Horse Armor was referred to as DLC or Downloadable Content. I'm not saying Horse Armor wasn't a joke, but it definitely was not called a Micro-transaction in 2006.
The way that term is used implies Lootboxes to causal gamers especially after the Battlefront II and Destiny 2 fiasco. Even if he wasn't trying to mislead his viewers with the Halo: Infinite video he failed to mention the twitter post made by 343 Industries Studio Head... That sounds misleading to me.
YongYea is pretty much the pure distilled form of a disgruntled gamer. His videos are so outrageously over reactive most of the time and he tends to only focus on big names everyone is already fully aware of, which makes most of his videos worthless.
The thread title is misleading but this video comes off as a big ball of nothing. I don't watch many YouTube videos about video games because it got tiring wading through the sensationalized bullshit but, without pissing off his fans or seeming harsh towards the guy, is this par for the course? This is...kind of trash and tabloid-ish. Sure, thumbnails with bold yellow font or people making dumb-ass faces get an instant "no thanks" but it still impresses me how much crazy shit is on YouTube.
Lootboxes are microtransactions, but not all microtransactions are lootboxes. The video still operates on the assumption that GaaS-model games with microtransactions are harmful to the consumer, which is not always the case. But I guess that is to be expected of a channel helmed by a "games development ignoramus" who can exploit his subscriber base with misleading arguments. Yongyea is arguably doing the same as what he attempts to condemn in this video.
That guy is absolute moron just like that douche Crap gamer. It sucks, that his blind followers will watch his video and just assume that 343 will have lootboxes. I hope fans of Halo, don't let these You tubers spread false message over internet to hurt the franchise.
Just because you cant buy loot boxes with real money doesn't mean you won't be able to buy in game currency with real money and use that currency with loot boxes. Didn't that recently happen with a Ubisoft game, where they spun it like that or something similar?
What? There are microtransactions that aren't lootboxes. It's just one form of many forms of microtransactions.
Yeah sorry OP. YongYea is shit but what you're doing here is not much different from what you accuse him of. Lootboxes and microtransactions are two different things no matter how much you want them to be the same. The title is misleading.