Yes! Multiple videos, in fact. The video I edited is already on YouTube but it's 4K and taking ages to resolve. The H264 file was 16gb. :X
Any word on when we'll begin to see RTX features in current games?
Yes! Multiple videos, in fact. The video I edited is already on YouTube but it's 4K and taking ages to resolve. The H264 file was 16gb. :X
Awesome =) Thanks!Yes! Multiple videos, in fact. The video I edited is already on YouTube but it's 4K and taking ages to resolve. The H264 file was 16gb. :X
DLSS shouldn't be long, I'd imagine.Any word on when we'll begin to see RTX features in current games?
What kind of PSU was it?My write-up, if OP wants to add: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-a-tale-of-two-very-expensive-graphics-cards/
2) I had to seek a new power supply while testing the 2080 Ti with a Vive Pro. If you think your system's 650W PSU will be sufficient, tread cautiously.
1080 Ti is the better choice imo. But the 1080 is fine for 1440p@60FPS and later 1080p@60FPS.
It also depends on which CPU you have, of course.
That one is of course powerful enough for a 1080 Ti. :)
Paul's Hardware vid had an interesting graph where he had the overall average performance comparison using the 1080ti as the '100%' baseline
Price/performance chart from the same vid (using prices for new, not used cards)
The 1070Ti and 1080 would probably remain the cards I'd point to for 1440p.How worth it would it be to jump from a 1060 6gb to a regular 1080 in a few months? Should I go straight for a 1080 Ti instead? 1440/60 would be the goal for anything I currently own, with 1080p for anything releasing in 2019 being fine for me.
He said it was all the scores from every test he ran. So some 1080,1440 and 4K
He said it was all the scores from every test he ran. So some 1080,1440 and 4K
My SFF Build with a Corsair SFX600 is gonna be mad at me :/
Does the 2080 push it as hard?
Good, but worrisome, to know. I'm getting a 2080 and am on 650W, but Oculus drains even more... On the other hand I have clamped down voltages for USB in the BIOS because I was having voltage droop issues anyways. Also my CPU is lower TDP than you were probably testing.
Do you guys plan on releasing any VR benchmarks? Mildly curious to see if the 11GB 1080Ti has any advantages over the 2080. It's an interesting question simply because of how insanely high VR render resolutions can get.
Were you guys measuring power draw? Were you actually pulling close to 650 watts? Would have been interesting to see exactly how much it was pulling from the wall in this scenario.
In what situations would the extra VRAM on the 1080Ti make it 'better' than the 2080? I'm leaning towards getting a 2080 for DLSS, but I'm curious if there would be instances where the 1080Ti would outperform the 2080 that aren't showing up in the games most benchmarks are using.
If you are looking for a 1080 deal keep tabs here:So what are the chances of a price drop for the GTX 10 series in the near future? I'm not too familiar with pricing patterns for previous generation cards once a new one releases.
I'm looking into getting a 1080, but I dunno when I should bite the bullet.
Honestly? 1070Ti at absolute maximum for you, and even then at 1080p you are probably going to get CPU bottlenecked.Kinda curious on opinions. I'm using a ryzen 1700(OC to 4 ghz) with a 970, so I'm completely GPU limited atm. My monitor is a 1080p 144hz g-sync monitor dual-screening with my 4k tv(Sometimes) which gets a max of 60 FPS, but I mostly use my monitor for games so I'm mostly doing 1080p. I do use VR, though. I'm wondering how much my CPU will hold me back with a 2080TI, and if it's even worth it over a 1080ti at 1080p 144 hz. Thoughts?
Mostly, I'm hanging around this thread waiting for Dark1x's opinion on that Half-Life 3 demo Nvidia sent us. That sure was a doozy, huh, bro?
You aren't wrong. It's slated for the next build of Windows 10 which is due next month.DLSS shouldn't be long, I'd imagine.
Actual ray tracing features are limited by the need for an update to DX12 which hasn't rolled out, from what I've heard. So games with RT features have to wait until that is ready. I think that will occur in October but I might be wrong.
So what cards are owners of a 970 thinking of upgrading to? Used 1080 or Ti, or the 2080, or just plain out sticking it out with the 970 until Nvidia's 7nm cards are relaesed?
So they really should have released the 2080 as the 2070, and 2080 TI as vanilla 2080. This will be on par with previous generations, and then a true 2080 Ti comes out later.
But I guess since Nvidia wants money they bump up the nomenclature to make the card even more expensive than they should be.
I would say that depends when you expect to be looking at upgrading again. A used or otherwise discounted 1080 Ti would be the better short-term option (i.e. a stopgap until Nvidia's 7nm GPUs) as the PPD is much higher. Conversely, if you think you'll be skipping the next generation of cards, the 2080 will age better to some extent as more and more games take advantage of its various architectural improvements.
So. Guys. Honest question. How long until 7nm? I don't remember NVIDIA pushing out their entire product range in one go, leading me to think that it's sooner rather than later. Like a year at most, perhaps? What do y'all think?
2080So what cards are owners of a 970 thinking of upgrading to? Used 1080 or Ti, or the 2080, or just plain out sticking it out with the 970 until Nvidia's 7nm cards are relaesed?
Dude. NDAs!!Mostly, I'm hanging around this thread waiting for Dark1x's opinion on that Half-Life 3 demo Nvidia sent us. That sure was a doozy, huh, bro?
lol
But seriously, the Star Wars Reflections demo they sent us is CRUNK. you should probably pay for DF's Patreon and watch that 4K footage. I can't believe a computer in my own home rendered that at a locked 24fps. (Got up to an avg of 36fps when unlocked, as my article points out.)
I absolutely agree with him, Nvidia have been horrifically deceptive and manipulative throughout this launch and right now this a card sold on a promise.Wow, Linus was pretty rough on them at the end of his review. "That's what RTX is today, it doesn't do anything." "I can't benchmark goals" I'd be pretty frustrated if I were him too, with how they've rolled out info
100 percent agree. The 35% uplift is a huge difference between struggling with settings to hit 4k60 or easily going through 4k60. The 2080TI seems to be a little to no compromise 4k60 card, but you have to pay for it. Substantially.From looking at individual benchmarks around the net, it seems like the gains from the 1080 Ti > 2080 Ti are actually incredibly substantial. People are throwing around 25%-35% like its nothing, but in actual fps gains, its like 20fps - 60fps (not counting Wolf 2) game to game at 1440p AND 4k. The jump here is actual really fucking crazy.
To cherry pick some cool shit:
1) The Starwars demo spends most of its time at 30fps+ at 4k+DLSS, even with the slight graphics downgrade from the 4x GV100 version. Only a few dips below 30fps here and there. 1440p60 results also look really good.
2) Wolf 2's performance increase is beyond insane, and the Turing enhancements aren't even out. It's a damn shame that Doom 2016 has a 200fps lock, hopefully Eternal rectifies that.
3) FFXV DLSS. The bench overall is a stupid pos, and it seems like this is an unofficial version modded by Nvidia based on code from this past January - no Shadow libs, no VXAO, bad hairworks performance, messy LODs implementation, cut down environment. Disregarding all of that, DLSS seems to be a winner in a game like scenario. Jumping from ~4k33fps on a 1080 Ti to ~4k57fps+DLSS on a 2080 Ti is a huge damn deal. Max out the graphics (including VXAO and SL), change your render scale to about 75%-90% depending on your fps/perf tolerance levels and you're off to the races.
The problem lies with the pricing. It. Just. Sucks.
Anything that requires more VRAM such as resolution increases, Post Effects, alpha etc and of course the bandwidth reductions as the 2080 is less than the 1080Ti and some of the performance reductions I predicted before launch are likely due to this.In what situations would the extra VRAM on the 1080Ti make it 'better' than the 2080? I'm leaning towards getting a 2080 for DLSS, but I'm curious if there would be instances where the 1080Ti would outperform the 2080 that aren't showing up in the games most benchmarks are using.
100 percent agree. The 35% uplift is a huge difference between struggling with settings to hit 4k60 or easily going through 4k60. The 2080TI seems to be a little to no compromise 4k60 card, but you have to pay for it. Substantially.
There are always going to be outlier games. I think crysis 3 still cant hit 60fps maxed settings on a 2080 ti. With Tomb Raider there is supposed to be DLSS support (who knows when), and I expect that to lift the game above 60 fps when available. Hopefully!Just posted this in the PC Builders thread as well but the 2080Ti isn't a "no compromise 4K 60" card either. Just turn on RTX in SOTR. Every flagship card meets its match almost immediately.
Having said that I'm pumped for my EVGA 2080Ti. Next week I should have both Alphacool and EK blocks delivered, decide which one I prefer and start putting that bad boy together.
I'm not on 4K yet - still on my Dell 3440x1440 ultrawide - but I can't wait to wait to benchmark and test games at max including Project Cars 2 and Elite Dangerous on my VIVE Pro which my 1080Ti can't handle at absolute highest settings past like 30 or so FPS.
What do you have?I should sell my extra 1080tis.
Still feel like they will be sought after and it'll help the cost of the newer cards not seem so steep.
Although $1400 after taxes for a STRIX 2080ti seems absolutely bonkers and I don't know if I can convince myself to spend that money for being an early adopter.
Still on 1440p for the foreseeable future anyways.
The 2080 ran without issue in terms of power draw on my 650W PSU, even with Vive Pro attached. But you're pushing your luck with a 600W PSU.
I have a ZOTAC Amp Extreme 1080ti, FTW3 1080ti, and a MSI Gaming X 1080ti.
The cards each have about 5 hours or so of use on them. I ended up sticking with the ASUS ROG so the rest have been sitting in their boxes stored away for over a year.
(Yes I bought 4 different cards to see which one I liked best)