Any word on when we'll begin to see RTX features in current games?
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NVIDIA RTX 20 Series Reviews
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Any word on when we'll begin to see RTX features in current games?
DLSS shouldn't be long, I'd imagine.
Actual ray tracing features are limited by the need for an update to DX12 which hasn't rolled out, from what I've heard. So games with RT features have to wait until that is ready. I think that will occur in October but I might be wrong.
That one is of course powerful enough for a 1080 Ti. :)
Paul's Hardware vid had an interesting graph where he had the overall average performance comparison using the 1080ti as the '100%' baseline
Price/performance chart from the same vid (using prices for new, not used cards)
What resolution?
The 1070Ti and 1080 would probably remain the cards I'd point to for 1440p.
He said it was all the scores from every test he ran. So some 1080,1440 and 4K
The 2080 ran without issue in terms of power draw on my 650W PSU, even with Vive Pro attached. But you're pushing your luck with a 600W PSU.
You should be safe with 2080 + 650W. (My 2080 tests ran with OCs on both the GPU and CPU, while my 2080 Ti crashes happened even when I turned off all system overclocking.)
I'm taking today off to catch my breath, but yes, I wanna confirm its VR chops and will post an update when I have impressions for y'all. Nvidia gave us five days to do all this testing on TWO cards, so I'm spending today relaxing with [REDACTED]. And no, no power-draw gear in my office, sorry.
Silverstone SX650-G. The team who built my rig at Falcon NW confirmed that this PSU also struggles with the Titan XP in similar fashion, and I already have both a 650 W and 850 W PSU from EVGA to test when I'm back at it.
This is an interesting launch for sure. Raw performance for the dollar looks awful but those 2080 TI 4k benchmarks are crazy.
Plus the fact that DLSS and RTX aren't fully tested yet and these reviews feel incomplete (not to the fault of the reviewers). I'm hoping DLSS takes off over time because this is more exciting to me than ray tracing (at least playing ray traced games at 1080p bleh). Give me a clean indistinguishable image and a 30 percent uplift in performance, yes please.
Plus the fact that DLSS and RTX aren't fully tested yet and these reviews feel incomplete (not to the fault of the reviewers). I'm hoping DLSS takes off over time because this is more exciting to me than ray tracing (at least playing ray traced games at 1080p bleh). Give me a clean indistinguishable image and a 30 percent uplift in performance, yes please.
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In one of the videos, I think it was Jayztwocents but might have been Gamers Nexus Wolfenstein did better with a 1080 ti as it appears the 2080 was bottlenecked.
If you are looking for a 1080 deal keep tabs here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
Very low chance of seeing a price drop. However, the cards go on sale and you can snag a 1080 deal when you see one
Honestly? 1070Ti at absolute maximum for you, and even then at 1080p you are probably going to get CPU bottlenecked.
Mostly, I'm hanging around this thread waiting for Dark1x's opinion on that Half-Life 3 demo Nvidia sent us. That sure was a doozy, huh, bro?
lol
But seriously, the Star Wars Reflections demo they sent us is CRUNK. you should probably pay for DF's Patreon and watch that 4K footage. I can't believe a computer in my own home rendered that at a locked 24fps. (Got up to an avg of 36fps when unlocked, as my article points out.)
You aren't wrong. It's slated for the next build of Windows 10 which is due next month.
Got quite the aging system: 970, 4670k, hooked to a 1080p TV. Was really looking to upgrade, but not anymore.
Wasn't the best time to build a new pc, this makes it even worse.
Will wait for 7nm, by that time good 4K tvs will be cheaper and hopefully HDMI 2.1 will be the norm.
Sums it up well.
From looking at individual benchmarks around the net, it seems like the gains from the 1080 Ti > 2080 Ti are actually incredibly substantial. People are throwing around 25%-35% like its nothing, but in actual fps gains, its like 20fps - 60fps (not counting Wolf 2) game to game at 1440p AND 4k. The jump here is actual really fucking crazy.
To cherry pick some cool shit:
1) The Starwars demo spends most of its time at 30fps+ at 4k+DLSS, even with the slight graphics downgrade from the 4x GV100 version. Only a few dips below 30fps here and there. 1440p60 results also look really good.
2) Wolf 2's performance increase is beyond insane, and the Turing enhancements aren't even out. It's a damn shame that Doom 2016 has a 200fps lock, hopefully Eternal rectifies that.
3) FFXV DLSS. The bench overall is a stupid pos, and it seems like this is an unofficial version modded by Nvidia based on code from this past January - no Shadow libs, no VXAO, bad hairworks performance, messy LODs implementation, cut down environment. Disregarding all of that, DLSS seems to be a winner in a game like scenario. Jumping from ~4k33fps on a 1080 Ti to ~4k57fps+DLSS on a 2080 Ti is a huge damn deal. Max out the graphics (including VXAO and SL), change your render scale to about 75%-90% depending on your fps/perf tolerance levels and you're off to the races.
The problem lies with the pricing. It. Just. Sucks.
To cherry pick some cool shit:
1) The Starwars demo spends most of its time at 30fps+ at 4k+DLSS, even with the slight graphics downgrade from the 4x GV100 version. Only a few dips below 30fps here and there. 1440p60 results also look really good.
2) Wolf 2's performance increase is beyond insane, and the Turing enhancements aren't even out. It's a damn shame that Doom 2016 has a 200fps lock, hopefully Eternal rectifies that.
3) FFXV DLSS. The bench overall is a stupid pos, and it seems like this is an unofficial version modded by Nvidia based on code from this past January - no Shadow libs, no VXAO, bad hairworks performance, messy LODs implementation, cut down environment. Disregarding all of that, DLSS seems to be a winner in a game like scenario. Jumping from ~4k33fps on a 1080 Ti to ~4k57fps+DLSS on a 2080 Ti is a huge damn deal. Max out the graphics (including VXAO and SL), change your render scale to about 75%-90% depending on your fps/perf tolerance levels and you're off to the races.
The problem lies with the pricing. It. Just. Sucks.
When are we expecting 7nm? 2019 or 2020? I'd be tempted to get the 1080 Ti as a stopgap (on a 1070 now) but if we aren't going to see 7nm until 2020 then the 2080 probably makes more sense for me.
So. Guys. Honest question. How long until 7nm? I don't remember NVIDIA pushing out their entire product range in one go, leading me to think that it's sooner rather than later. Like a year at most, perhaps? What do y'all think?
You know what... while I would love a 2080... I am seriously considering waiting to see what AMD can come out with next year. I know I have a 970, but I'll manage.
7nm is going to be in AMD's new GPU isn't it?
7nm is going to be in AMD's new GPU isn't it?
Need reviews for the Gigabyte and Evga 2080tis. Haven't seen a Gigabyte Aorus version yet. Have an Aorus 1080ti and the card is amazing.
I absolutely agree with him, Nvidia have been horrifically deceptive and manipulative throughout this launch and right now this a card sold on a promise.
My review of the RTX 2080 > http://www.pcmrace.com/2018/09/19/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition-review/
List of games benchmarked at 1080, 1440p and 4K:
Assassin's Creed Origins
F1 2018
Far Cry 5
Final Fantasy XV
Forza Motorsport 7
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War
HITMAN
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Strange Brigade
Total War Saga: THRONES OF BRITANNIA
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War 3
Final Fantasy XV Video Comparison TAA Vs DLSS:
The review also has 3 gameplay videos at 4k/Max settings (AC: Origins, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and The Witcher 3).
List of games benchmarked at 1080, 1440p and 4K:
Assassin's Creed Origins
F1 2018
Far Cry 5
Final Fantasy XV
Forza Motorsport 7
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War
HITMAN
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Strange Brigade
Total War Saga: THRONES OF BRITANNIA
Warhammer 40.000: Dawn of War 3
Final Fantasy XV Video Comparison TAA Vs DLSS:
The review also has 3 gameplay videos at 4k/Max settings (AC: Origins, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and The Witcher 3).
100 percent agree. The 35% uplift is a huge difference between struggling with settings to hit 4k60 or easily going through 4k60. The 2080TI seems to be a little to no compromise 4k60 card, but you have to pay for it. Substantially.
Haven't had a chance to fully read everything, but on first glance, feeling really good about my 2080ti purchase. And my Asus PG27UQ. I'll actually be able to take full advantage of the 2080ti with that monitor, which is what I expected, but the confirmation is great :)
Anything that requires more VRAM such as resolution increases, Post Effects, alpha etc and of course the bandwidth reductions as the 2080 is less than the 1080Ti and some of the performance reductions I predicted before launch are likely due to this.
I have a standard 1080 and I'm pretty happy gaming in 2k/gsync. Will probably wait another year or two and then chase after that 2080 ti though. Should set me up nicely for the long haul
If this was their big offering now, I could see it be a while for them to go 7nm. I'd probably say next year maybe? Just a guess.
Just posted this in the PC Builders thread as well but the 2080Ti isn't a "no compromise 4K 60" card either. Just turn on RTX in SOTR. Every flagship card meets its match almost immediately.
Having said that I'm pumped for my EVGA 2080Ti. Next week I should have both Alphacool and EK blocks delivered, decide which one I prefer and start putting that bad boy together.
I'm not on 4K yet - still on my Dell 3440x1440 ultrawide - but I can't wait to wait to benchmark and test games at max including Project Cars 2 and Elite Dangerous on my VIVE Pro which my 1080Ti can't handle at absolute highest settings past like 30 or so FPS.
More than happy with my 1080 for another couple years. I tend to game at 1080-1440 res, so there's yet to be a game I haven't been able to max out, and I think it will still be awhile. Maybe I'll grab whatever cards release the year Cyberpunk releases, and just do a full new PC.
I should sell my extra 1080tis.
Still feel like they will be sought after and it'll help the cost of the newer cards not seem so steep.
Although $1400 after taxes for a STRIX 2080ti seems absolutely bonkers and I don't know if I can convince myself to spend that money for being an early adopter.
Still on 1440p for the foreseeable future anyways.
Still feel like they will be sought after and it'll help the cost of the newer cards not seem so steep.
Although $1400 after taxes for a STRIX 2080ti seems absolutely bonkers and I don't know if I can convince myself to spend that money for being an early adopter.
Still on 1440p for the foreseeable future anyways.
There are always going to be outlier games. I think crysis 3 still cant hit 60fps maxed settings on a 2080 ti. With Tomb Raider there is supposed to be DLSS support (who knows when), and I expect that to lift the game above 60 fps when available. Hopefully!
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I have a ZOTAC Amp Extreme 1080ti, FTW3 1080ti, and a MSI Gaming X 1080ti.
The cards each have about 5 hours or so of use on them. I ended up sticking with the ASUS ROG so the rest have been sitting in their boxes stored away for over a year.
(Yes I bought 4 different cards to see which one I liked best)
Nice to see that Forbes conveniently left out "using DLSS" in their headline there.
I'm curious to see if DLSS turns out to be as good as is shown here, although it's hard to take at face value since a static benchmark is obviously the optimal scenario for the technique, if I've understood it correctly.
Oh oof. I really don't want to swap out PSUs so we'll see if I get throttled first.
You have enough dough lying around in those cards to consolidate to one 2080ti lol.