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sora87

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Oct 27, 2017
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If you want those sony exclusives and don't mind the jet engine fan then get a pro.
I don't see the difference in graphics too much between the pro and x1x tbh.
 

Switch

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This just seems flamebait. Xbox X games look a lot better, its not just a slight upgrade . If one was to by a chat pad then taking screen shots or video is simply a matter of pressing a button. Its a lot easier to view freinds screens shots and videos on the xbox one, plus its easier to share phots with your PC (you dont need to use a pen drive) I get the issue with Facebook lack of sharing though
 

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There's a Pro shortage?

I have both a Pro and an X. I love them both, but Sony definitely has an easier and more responsive UI. There is some serious UI lag on my X often. Strange that the more powerful console seems slower on its menus. I really wish Sony had a BC initiative like or better than MS's, and the same enhanced games do generally look/play smoother on X though.
 

Cynn

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Oct 27, 2017
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The 1X is far superior for screenshots and video than the Pro. I am a heavy user of sharing on both consoles and the delay of taking a screenshot on PS4 drives me up the wall. With 1X the screen buffer is locked in the second you hit the Xbox button. I know some people hate hitting "Y" to save after taking a screen but it's worth it to be able to perfectly time captures vs the second and a half lag on PS4. You can also get the keypad and use it's dedicated button as well for instant captures with no menu needed if you have the cash.

As far as video goes, 1X has two major advantages for me.

1.) You can use an external USB as your capture location as opposed to being locked to the system's storage like PS4. With 4K video, file size can skyrocket. It's nice to have an external drive dedicated to this task that you can unplug and attach to the PC for uploading with no extra steps.

2.) You can start recording for an hour at any time. For someone like me who plays Battle Royale games and helps collect single player content for another creator it's really nice to be able to just start recording for an hour and shut it off when I need to. With PS4 you can now save an hour of video with the capture tool but you're rolling the dice if the capture actually happens. It's very temperamental. Once you lose a couple of awesome videos you can't replicate it gets old. I have never once had the Xbox fail to record.

There's also a massive quality gap between the PS4 capture and Xbox One X. PS4 videos come out highly compressed and low res as opposed to the 4K output of 1X.

As someone who likes captures I think you need to evaluate if user error is going into your efforts. For the PS4 I have to use an external capture device to get around its poor implementation of video and screen capture.

Sharefactory is indeed superior to Upload in a few ways. Any PC editing app will be massively better than both though. And with 1X you can just pop your external drive in and edit quickly on PC. (I use Adobe Premeire myself)
 

Clay

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Oct 29, 2017
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You need to re-read my posts actually, because as I already pointed out, it wasn't the OP that I quoted.

Oh, sorry, my mistake. I read your post as "It wasn't in the OP I quoted," like you were implying someone else had misread the OP. Apologies.

There is some mineral or part that has a world wide shortage and it's out of Sony's hand because every manufacturer has the same problem. There was a thread about it last week.

Crazy. Glad I got a Pro when God of War came out.
 

60fps

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Dec 18, 2017
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On PS4 Pro you can play Shadow of the Colossus in beautiful 60fps for example. On Xbox you can't. So it's actually "going forward", not back.
 

Pein

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unless they put in a performance mode which only unlocks the framerate no it'll be capped at 30fps.

And honestly on these consoles performance mode means 40-50fps most of the time. It's such an uneven mess I prefer to cap it.
Yeah smooth frame rate and higher res or iq from down sampling is better than the choppy high frame rate.
 

Ludens

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100% yes if u like good games that is.
 
OP
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Ukraine

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The 1X is far superior for screenshots and video than the Pro.
You can't be serious here. I mean it might work for you, but taking screenshots on X isn't fun at all. I mean even if everything worked perfectly, the fact that game pauses when you take a screenshot should be bad enough.

Also, I'm not sure why so many people export their screenshots. I take them for myself. I like to view them on my console. Exporting screenshots is not an issue for me. And viewing screenshots on X is shitty too.
 

JackEtc

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Oct 28, 2017
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Stats and measurements on paper can determine everything about two consoles besides your preference and enjoyment while using one over another, and that matters more than any spec.

A few extra lines of resolution or AA that's a little crisper isn't worth being miserable about the experience surrounding the game you're playing. I have a Pro and an X and all my friends play on PS4, and just having quick access to my friends list and party chat is enough for me to lean Pro for most of my game purchases. Nobody can tell you you're wrong for having personal preferences.
 

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I know it's first world problem (to be fair almost all gaming related complaints are :)). My major issue is decision making here. For example I can go ahead and replace Kingdom Hearts 3 in my gamefly Queue with PS4 version, but what if Pro version runs at 1200p while Xbox X one is 4k?! I won't be able to live with myself :)

Problem is nobody will be able to help you with that here. So make a choice and live with it mate. Just buy some for the Pro and some for the X.

100% yes if u like good games that is.

This thread just entered Gamefaqs level of posting...
 

Spasm

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The 1X is far superior for screenshots and video than the Pro. I am a heavy user of sharing on both consoles and the delay of taking a screenshot on PS4 drives me up the wall. With 1X the screen buffer is locked in the second you hit the Xbox button. I know some people hate hitting "Y" to save after taking a screen but it's worth it to be able to perfectly time captures vs the second and a half lag on PS4. You can also get the keypad and use it's dedicated button as well for instant captures with no menu needed if you have the cash.

As far as video goes, 1X has two major advantages for me.

1.) You can use an external USB as your capture location as opposed to being locked to the system's storage like PS4. With 4K video, file size can skyrocket. It's nice to have an external drive dedicated to this task that you can unplug and attach to the PC for uploading with no extra steps.

2.) You can start recording for an hour at any time. For someone like me who plays Battle Royale games and helps collect single player content for another creator it's really nice to be able to just start recording for an hour and shut it off when I need to. With PS4 you can now save an hour of video with the capture tool but you're rolling the dice if the capture actually happens. It's very temperamental. Once you lose a couple of awesome videos you can't replicate it gets old. I have never once had the Xbox fail to record.

There's also a massive quality gap between the PS4 capture and Xbox One X. PS4 videos come out highly compressed and low res as opposed to the 4K output of 1X.

As someone who likes captures I think you need to evaluate if user error is going into your efforts. For the PS4 I have to use an external capture device to get around its poor implementation of video and screen capture.

Sharefactory is indeed superior to Upload in a few ways. Any PC editing app will be massively better than both though. And with 1X you can just pop your external drive in and edit quickly on PC. (I use Adobe Premeire myself)
Quality post! This is much of what I wanted to add, but you expressed it better than what I was writing up.

It's worth mentioning that if one does choose to capture externally (thumb drive), one cannot share said captures through the Xbox. They must also be shared externally.
 
OP
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Problem is nobody will be able to help you here. So make a choice and live with it mate. Just buy some for the Pro and some for the X.



This thread just entered Gamefaqs level of posting...
I guess some kind of standard when it comes to PS4 Pro resolution output is my biggest concern. As simple as direction from Sony that games need to be at least 1600p would make me feel much better. I would get Red Dead 2 on Pro without any hesitation.

Quality post! This is much of what I wanted to add, but you expressed it better than what I was writing up.

It's worth mentioning that if one does choose to capture externally (thumb drive), one cannot share said captures through the Xbox. They must also be shared externally.

Why do you capture screenshots externally? What do you view them on? PS4?
 

pswii60

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Oh, sorry, my mistake. I read your post as "It wasn't in the OP I quoted," like you were implying someone else had misread the OP. Apologies.
No worries my friend. I think everyone is getting a little heated in this thread.

OP absolutely has good points about frustrations with the X's UI. It can be needlessly laggy. But in its defence the X feels far more refined than Pro in every other way, whether the look of the console itself, the quiet cooling mechanism, the controller, the games looking so much cleaner if you have a decent sized TV. Then there's BC, enhanced BC (Ninja Gaiden Black in 4K was a system seller for me), Game Pass, Dolby Atmos with headphones simply via the controller (sounds amazing), and support for Freesync, 120hz, Dolby Vision, the UHD player.
Some games are only a small upgrade, others are decent and others are huge like Nier Automata (only 1080p on Pro!) and Dishonored 2.

But understand that I don't spend much time in the UI, I spend most of my time playing the actual games. And the X delivers in spades there when it comes to multiplats. My Pro still gets a ton of use though because Sony keeps delivering on the first party front (Spider-Man is amazing). But there's no way I could choose one console over the other; X for exclusives and multiplats and Pro for exclusives.
 

Spasm

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You can't be serious here. I mean it might work for you, but taking screenshots on X isn't fun at all. I mean even if everything worked perfectly, the fact that game pauses when you take a screenshot should be bad enough.

Also, I'm not sure why so many people export their screenshots. I take them for myself. I like to view them on my console. Exporting screenshots is not an issue for me. And viewing screenshots on X is shitty too.
You don't want the game to pause when taking a screen shot? Why not? As Cynn mentioned, the image buffer is captured when you hit the guide button, so there should be zero timing issues. Pressing Y only saves what's already been captured.

Why do you capture screenshots externally? What do you view them on? PS4?
PC mostly, but also on the Xbox. The biggest reason I capture externally is that I can record 60 minute videos at 4k.
 
OP
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No worries my friend. I think everyone is getting a little heated in this thread.

OP absolutely has good points about frustrations with the X's UI. It can be needlessly laggy. But in its defence the X feels far more refined than Pro in every other way, whether the look of the console itself, the quiet cooling mechanism, the controller, the games looking so much cleaner if you have a decent sized TV. Then there's is BC, enhanced BC, Game Pass, Dolby Atmos with headphones simply via the controller (sounds amazing), and support for Freesync, 120hz, Dolby Vision, the UHD player.
Some games are only a small upgrade, others are decent and others are huge like Nier Automata (only 1080p on Pro!) and Dishonored 2.

But understand that I don't spend much time in the UI, I spend most of my time playing the actual games. And the X delivers in spades there when it comes to multiplats. My Pro still gets a ton of use though because Sony keeps delivering on the first party front (Spider-Man is amazing). But there's no way I could choose one console over the other; X for exclusives and multiplats and Pro for exclusives.
I would agree with you that BC is huge thing and game pass is great option (I will get it for Forza). EA access is also GREAT. There's definitely reasons to keep X. My concern is solely around AAA multiplatform titles. I mean I wouldn't even be able to play Bayonetta on PS4, so I can't complain about screenshot taking in that game :)
 
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You don't want the game to pause when taking a screen shot? Why not? As Cynn mentioned, the image buffer is captured when you hit the guide button, so there should be zero timing issues. Pressing Y only saves what's already been captured.
Is there a way to disable autopausing when home button is pressed?! Most games pause. Am I missing something?
 

pswii60

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Is there a way to disable autopausing when home button is pressed?! Most games pause. Am I missing something?
The game pauses automatically out of convenience just as it does when you press the home button on the PS4 controller (but not the Share button). This isn't an issue if you're just taking one screenshot once in a while, but if you want to keep snapping screenshots in a row then it's going to be tricky - a chatpad would be your friend in that instance as it has a screenshot button.
 

Captain_Raoul

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I don't really see the benefit having a One X next to a Pro only because it came a year after with some better hardware, but mostly...Microsoft doesn't have anything to show off the hardware. You can also play your multiplats on the Pro, and it's not like the One X really delivers ground breaking differences. Res is the biggest difference between the two, but the graphics and performance are mostly the same.
 

Spasm

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Is there a way to disable autopausing when home button is pressed?! Most games pause. Am I missing something?
It depends on the developers implementation of how they treat the guide button. I'd wager most single player sessions are programmed to pause as a courtesy, while multiplayer sessions do not / can not.

That being said, pausing should have absolutely zero effect on the saved screenshot.
 

Mercenary09

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Never understand posts like this. Also an owner of both platforms, and I'm baffled why you wouldn't be doing things the other way round? My Pro is for exclusives, because obviously everything else is better on the X. And why would you spend $499 on the X if you're not interested in the exclusives nor playing multiplats there?
I mean maybe if they put some good exclusives out? I'll get Horizon 4 but everything else lately has been mediocre at best. I'm more invested in the PlayStation ecosystem and that's where most of my friends play so no I wasn't going to switch my multi plats to the X just for some slightly better visuals. Sorry unless you have both the X and Pro side by side the difference isn't really noticeable at all. I got it so that I could play my exclusives in the best quality. Just sucks that there hasn't been many good ones lately.
 

impact

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I don't really see the benefit having a One X next to a Pro only because it came a year after with some better hardware, but mostly...Microsoft doesn't have anything to show off the hardware. You can also play your multiplats on the Pro, and it's not like the One X really delivers ground breaking differences. it's mostly res but the graphics and performance are mostly the same.
They're botching their biggest advantage over Pro in 4K Backwards Compat. So few titles.
 

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I don't really see the benefit having a One X next to a Pro only because it came a year after with some better hardware, but mostly...Microsoft doesn't have anything to show off the hardware. You can also play your multiplats on the Pro, and it's not like the One X really delivers ground breaking differences. it's mostly res but the graphics and performance are mostly the same.

Forza Horizon 4 is a visual showpiece. But yeah, hopefully more MS games will take advantage of the hardware.

The differences are for me the same as OG PS4 to OG Xbox One. It might only be a resolution difference for most games, but I can notice it just like I could for the PS4 and Xbox One. Back then I had an Xbox for the exclusives. Now I have a Pro for the exclusives. So there's a benefit for some of us.
 

Firima

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If you plan to play a lot of Sony exclusives, yes. The graphics are superior. If you have no interest in Sony games, nah.

This, basically. X is a multiplat monster but it you only care about Sony stuff, just stick with PS4.

That said, if you already have both and are not getting the Xbox One version of multiplats,

1. Really?

and

2. Ditch the Xbox.

Xbox One X will run it better and run it quieter. If these things aren't enough to convince you, then just be a single-console person. There's nothing wrong with that!
 
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I'm getting rid of my Pro. I've played all the exclusives I want (not interested in Spider Man or God of War), and I'm more invested in the One ecosystem.

That, and I've rediscovered my love for Nintendo, with a Wii-U and Switch. So plenty of stuff to keep me occupied.
 

Dazraell

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It only depends which games are you want to play. If you are for multiplatform titles, you can stay with Xbox One X - most of them are released on that platform anyway. If you are interested in exclusives though, yeah, you should totally go for it. Sony released a lot of awesome first-party games in a recent year and a half.
 

XDevil666

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Dam just looking In the UK at stores over here, and god dam the PS4 Pro is out of stock around me also.

Managed to find 1 ps4 pro in white 12 miles away!
 

Goodacre0081

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pretty sure MS put some weird filter on the XB1 that crushed blacks. was this not fixed? I remember this and the horrible sharpening filter they had that fans wanted removed.
 

FaceHugger

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The number of quality exclusives is enough, really, but having like twice the amount of active users in an online game is why I use my Pro far more than my X1
 

DrDeckard

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Wow I must be old. I hardly ever take screenshots. I think I might if I see a funny bug or something.

I'd say if you can handle the jet engine snd lower res games deffo go with the pro. It sounds like it's better for screenshots.
 

nib95

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I keep playing multiplatfom games on Xbox X and I honestly don't know if it's worth sticking to X for the sake of higher resolution. Every single time I play on Pro the experience is so much better.

Sounds like you should switch. The things you've listed seem potentially more important than a slight resolution bump. I don't have an X (only an OG One), but I take dozens to hundreds of screens every game I play, so that stuff would likely bother me too, just as it does with the standard One.
 

Jaypah

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I mean maybe if they put some good exclusives out? I'll get Horizon 4 but everything else lately has been mediocre at best. I'm more invested in the PlayStation ecosystem and that's where most of my friends play so no I wasn't going to switch my multi plats to the X just for some slightly better visuals. Sorry unless you have both the X and Pro side by side the difference isn't really noticeable at all. I got it so that I could play my exclusives in the best quality. Just sucks that there hasn't been many good ones lately.

You should probably sell it. This gen is wrapping up and you'll never get more money/credit for it than now. That's a pretty expensive thing to just have sitting there and you could put the money/credit towards something you'll actually play. Nothing wrong with not wanting a console, sometimes it's just like that. I don't play my PS4 anymore really but I'm hanging on to it because the occasional game of DC (or the idea of buying Spiderman at some point) outweighs the little money that I could get for my base PS4 now.

As for the OP just play your games on PS4 and be happy with your screenshot hobby. It shouldn't be this hard of a decision lol.
 

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im keepin the X if I were you.

unless I can have both in which case then I would get the ps4 exclusives at 1440p+ so thats nice.
 

RossoneR

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Do you play a lot of multiplayer? If so than pro. In every game player count is much bigger, 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. For me thats more important than screenshots. Or where re majority of your friends, stick with that.
 
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If OP enjoys the PS4 / Pro experience more than the X, then yes go back to PlayStation, no point sticking with something you don't enjoy.

4K definitely isn't everything and Pro games still look excellent, even if they aren't quite as sharp and it's really hard to tell any big difference when not doing a side by side comparison anyway, plus there's all the quality 1st party games too.
 

Gamer17

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I know it's first world problem (to be fair almost all gaming related complaints are :)). My major issue is decision making here. For example I can go ahead and replace Kingdom Hearts 3 in my gamefly Queue with PS4 version, but what if Pro version runs at 1200p while Xbox X one is 4k?! I won't be able to live with myself :)
There is never that much difference between 2.if Xbox is 4k PS4 is either check boarded 4k or 1600 p to 1800 p .
 

Skiptastic

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I mean, you pretty much have convinced yourself to use the Pro, based on your OP and the fact that you own both already.

It doesn't seem to me like resolution or the controller are enough to tilt you to the X, if those are the only positives you see for it.

I know it's first world problem (to be fair almost all gaming related complaints are :)). My major issue is decision making here. For example I can go ahead and replace Kingdom Hearts 3 in my gamefly Queue with PS4 version, but what if Pro version runs at 1200p while Xbox X one is 4k?! I won't be able to live with myself :)
And then you say something like this and it makes me reconsider...

You have both. Do the research to see if there are major resolution variances. If there are, use the X. If there aren't, use the Pro, as that experience seems to be much more positive for you.
 

Swiggins

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Out of curiosity OP, which PS4 exclusives are enticing you the most?

God of War? Bloodborne? Spiderman? Uncharted?
 

Bjones

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Sure if that's what brings you joy.

I personally like the way the blue background on my oled :)
 

TCG276

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It sounds like you much prefer the PS4 experience, and you mention you don't care about the graphic upgrades on the X, so
why are you second guessing this?