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Who is the most manly man in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate?

  • Snake

    Votes: 176 20.4%
  • Simon Belmont

    Votes: 176 20.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 328 38.0%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 69 8.0%
  • Ike

    Votes: 114 13.2%

  • Total voters
    863
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MondoMega

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Maybe this could just be me tired as shit but how would that work? We would just have something announce a newcomer and Ken but have a Smash Direct later? Am I misunderstanding something here?
Personally, that's what I think this means. My current prediction is that sometime in October, we will get a livestream on the Smash website (like the Lucina/Falcon/Robin reveal) where Incineroar and Ken will be revealed, and they will take the missing two slots on the box. Other characters revealed later will simply not be on the box at all, to avoid spoilers for the final Smash Direct in November.
 

Metto

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The game is just under 3 months out so they will definitely have announcements at two places. Likely a Smash Direct late November for the final newcomer(s).
So maybe a shadow drop trailer with Ken and someone else. Then a Smash Direct in late November around the time they send out review copies?
 
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There really aren't, though. There are no "modern" Nintendo characters with Isabelle's level of popularity, outside of maybe Splatoon.
Inklings are definitely more popular than Isabelle imo. Splatoon is on its way to 10+ million as well, joining Animal Crossing there, and Inklings have been present in almost every piece of Nintendo's promotional material - Directs/E3 - in the last 3 years, including Mario Kart 8 (along with Isabelle!). Two major releases in that time (and one meaty expansion) have also kept them incredibly relevant.
 

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There really aren't, though. There are no "modern" Nintendo characters with Isabelle's level of popularity, outside of maybe Splatoon.
I'm not disputing Isabelle being one of the Nintendo characters not in Smash with the highest general popularity, but I doubt general popularity is the same as popularity in the ballot.

Personally, that's what I think this means. My current prediction is that sometime in October, we will get a livestream on the Smash website (like the Lucina/Falcon/Robin reveal) where Incineroar and Ken will be revealed, and they will take the missing two slots on the box. Other characters revealed later will simply not be on the box at all, to avoid spoilers for the final Smash Direct in November.

To be honest, this is the best theory so far that doesn't dispute the box theory completely either. Would also indicate that the final Smash direct might be as late as mid November.
 

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I'm not disputing Isabelle being one of the Nintendo characters not in Smash with the highest general popularity, but I doubt general popularity is the same as popularity in the ballot.
Sure, I don't disagree there. My point in highlighting that was that Isabelle did not need additional criteria like Sakurai wanting additional female reps. I think she made it in on her (and ACNL's) general popularity alone.
 

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I am not salty about Isabelle anymore. In fact Isabelle isn't even what I was initially upset about. It was the idea of semi clones.

Isabelle barely qualifies as a derivative. In fact, she doesn't even seem like a Luigi or Wolf style clone. She's pretty much completely unique. Think Ike and Marth.

New semi clones are still not a thing, and my biggest fear (echo overload) is not a thing because Ken's the last one. So Richter is likely the only cosmetic echo.
 

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Sure, I don't disagree there. My point in highlighting that was that Isabelle did not need additional criteria like Sakurai wanting additional female reps. I think she made it in on her (and ACNL's) general popularity alone.
I hope Sakurai goes in depth about Isabelle in his column. I want to know how she came to be, since she's special in many ways. Only semi clone so far, only female rep (not counting two gendered Inkling), and how did she do on ballot? Hopefully next week!
 

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I doubt there will be a Let's Go Direct. They'll continue to drop news and trailers every month, but t's unlikely that they have anything worth a livestream. If Incineroar or any other Gen VII Pokémon is in Smash, it's more likely to be revealed in a Robin-style stream or reserved for a larger presentation later in November.
 

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I got to bring the class rabbit home and take care of it over spring break and it ate my game genie manual
 

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I got to bring the class rabbit home and take care of it over spring break and it ate my game genie manual

Class animals arent a thing here, but one kid brought their mouse in for no real reason and the students were really mean to it. It was so messed up that I remember it despite being 22ish years ago...

Whats the best rabbit rep for a playable character in Smash, Peppy? Rabbids? Lopunny?
 

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Class animals arent a thing here, but one kid brought their mouse in for no real reason and the students were really mean to it. It was so messed up that I remember it despite being 22ish years ago...

Whats the best rabbit rep for a playable character in Smash, Peppy? Rabbids? Lopunny?
Badge Arcade bun, obv. For the next one after his breakout hit on Switch.

Wild card pick: prototype "Inklings."
 

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It feels weird to call Dixie this huge important character because Nintendo doesn't treat her like such.

Like Daisy & Isabelle are waaaaaay bigger than Dixie. Dixie gets heavily ignored compared to Diddy even. Of course, most of biggest characters are already in, but Nintendo really doesn't treat Dixie as big important character.
 
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Class animals arent a thing here, but one kid brought their mouse in for no real reason and the students were really mean to it. It was so messed up that I remember it despite being 22ish years ago...

Whats the best rabbit rep for a playable character in Smash, Peppy? Rabbids? Lopunny?
The Arcade Bunny to make his dream come true:

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Edit: Oh wait, he's an assist trophy. I don't know now and can't think straight. I need time to recover from his dreams being dashed.
 

ze_

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We really do need another trailer where Captain Falcon tests new Smash candidates. He beats down Dan and then Ken comes to back him up.
 

ze_

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Any bout where Incineroar takes on a martial artist of any kind is rigged against it.
 
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Class animals arent a thing here, but one kid brought their mouse in for no real reason and the students were really mean to it. It was so messed up that I remember it despite being 22ish years ago...

Whats the best rabbit rep for a playable character in Smash, Peppy? Rabbids? Lopunny?
New answer. Pikachu dressed as Mega Lopunny:
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We had Pikachu and Pikachu Libre in Pokken, so it's not unheard of.
 

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This is most likely true. Bunnies are great!

I went to a bunny cafe in Ikebukuro last month, and it was really fun! All the rabbits were really friendly!

I dunno about rabbits but we have a local cat cafe. We went there with my gran which was the last time we saw her before she passed away recently.

So you're saying I should buy both? You know, you should really work in marketing at Nintendo.

I don't know, but im mostly getting the game just for the starter. I would have had to flip a coin but my sister is obsessed to the point where she has like pikachu pajamas so i couldn't win that battle.
 

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The box theory is interesting and has a solid reasoning as basis but I don't believe simply because of the marketing strategy of the game. They simply wouldn't have revealed five characters at once in August if all they have left to reveal past mid-september is one newcomer and an echo.
I don't think we're getting many more characters but I'd believe at least two newcomers + two echos.

Note that all of that is moot if Ken is not an echo in the end (like Isabelle), then I'd fully believe that to be the final roster.
 

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The box theory is interesting and has a solid reasoning as basis but I don't believe simply because of the marketing strategy of the game. They simply wouldn't have revealed five characters at once in August if all they have left to reveal past mid-september is one newcomer and an echo.
I don't think we're getting many more characters but I'd believe at least two newcomers + two echos.

Note that all of that is moot if Ken is not an echo in the end (like Marie), then I'd fully believe that to be the final roster.

Reasonable
 

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The box theory is interesting and has a solid reasoning as basis but I don't believe simply because of the marketing strategy of the game. They simply wouldn't have revealed five characters at once in August if all they have left to reveal past mid-september is one newcomer and an echo.
I don't think we're getting many more characters but I'd believe at least two newcomers + two echos.

Note that all of that is moot if Ken is not an echo in the end (like Isabelle), then I'd fully believe that to be the final roster.
Box theory only holds if Ken is an echo since only reason he'd be placed on the other side is if he was next to Ryu.

Otherwise I fully agree with everything else you said before.
 

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What if they want to reveal every character before November.

I don't have any real basis for that, just a hunch, and I could believe a newcomer and echo reveal on October to round it off if that's the case. Maybe a DLC tease pre-launch like Mewtwo was in November.
 

Dany1899

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This Box Theory reminds me how we found out that Lyn and Celica would have been in Fire Emblem Warriors before their announcement because of the picture of the European limited edition. So I think that this theory can actually be true, even though it would mean we're going to get only another newcomer in Smash. But maybe there will be DLCs characters announced in a last Direct before the game being released and clearly not showing themselves on the box.
 
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