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3 actually has a pretty easy answer, in that this box will be in production before the roster is shown to the public, so keeping certain characters off of it to prevent leaks is entirely possible, if not likely. This also doesn't get in the way of Ken's "spot" because Ken could be announced before it's in production, or they literally just removed the fighters they knew wouldn't be announced in time, and that includes Ken and left the blank spots.
This is possible, but for sure weird. If they shift it around at all you have to completely change the entire thing. If you include a Yoshi echo for example, Luigi is no longer the first character on the one side of the box but the second. Jigglypuff gets pushed to the other side, and the whole thing cascades down.
You can extrapolate from what we can see, though as opposed to assuming that it will definitely be changed.
And no one is assuming this is 'final' (the big blank spot as I said), but also what's more likely - the characters do a weird wrap around the back (despite the obvious pattern with the characters on the side we can see) and/or there's going to be a big ol' redesign to fit in 8 more characters or there's just 2 left from the obvious gaps they left.
I have trouble believing they would make up this whole numbering system and then stop at 69. Partially for the self-awareness reasons but also because I think they'd want to advertise "Over 70 characters!" with no strings attached. Also considering they announced 2 newcomers in the last smash direct I think they've set the expectations for 2 more in the next one.
Basically I'm saying there's no way we don't hit 70 numbered characters on the site.
Basically I'm saying there's no way we don't hit 70 numbered characters on the site.
Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards. That would also mean we can expect Ken and Incineroar relatively soon.
I don't think they'll leave blanks because you'd have one blank on one side and two on the other.
If two is the final count, then we get to hear about Skull Kid, Shadow, Dixie, Geno, Isaac and BWD until they're either directly deconfirmed, or DLC officially ends :D
This stuff is impossible to follow.
Amazon UK implied 71 total characters so that can't account for echoes, no?
But goddamn "box theory" seems to indicate we're only getting one more newcomer? How does that make sense?
Have the great Smash philosophers weighed in yet?
Amazon UK implied 71 total characters so that can't account for echoes, no?
But goddamn "box theory" seems to indicate we're only getting one more newcomer? How does that make sense?
Have the great Smash philosophers weighed in yet?
Amazon is just using the post-Smash Direct number on the website, that counts echoes but not Pokemon trainer as three or whatever.
After talking about it during this week's discussion, I think there's a decent chance that the overall design of the box is final (minus the two slots that will be filled in), but that it won't include the newcomers beyond these next 2, in order prevent leaks during the manufacturing process that will likely have to start before every character is officially announced.
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It doesn't matter that they were "Born" (had their first entries in) at the end of the 80s. That is really just being technical. It's not comparable to Zelda because the original Zelda was already extremely popular and came out right in the middle of the 80s.
Street Fighter only truly rose to extreme popularity with the release of Street Fighter 2 in the 90s. Likewise, Final Fantasy really only exploded in popularity with the subsequent releases in the 90s on SNES and PS1 -- not to mention that the original FF did not even release outside of Japan until 1990. Cloud specifically is undeniably a 90s character as he didn't even exist before FFVII.
The start of both Ryu and Cloud's popularity (and the general popularity of both SF and FF) can be directly traced to the 90s.
Yeah, I think this is very likely. That puts a lot of potential eyes on the box before the final announcement could occur and it could easily be leaked. I think it's wise to place your expectations at only 2 more characters being announced, but I really don't feel this makes it 100% the case.
Will be funny when only the Dragon Quest rep isn't in the box.
Or... and here's a crazy thought. Bear with me.
There won't be any characters on the side in the finished box.
There won't be any characters on the side in the finished box.
I read it wrong.... unfortunately he didnt realize the slot is Ken.
If you accept the box theory, realize you're also saying that we will know every newcomer by Novemeber 2 as that's when this bundle launches, and I'd say even earlier than that as it needs to be shippedto retailers before then.
Do you all really think we'll know all the newcomers by (essentially) the end of October? I say definitely not
What I will buy into is that it could feature all the characters until the bundle releases and that Ken and Incineroar are revealed before then.
The only issue with that is it doesn't leave any time for Ken to be revealed. I can easily see Incineroar revealed in a Pokemon Direct in late October leading into the release of Let's Go. But that leaves no way for Ken to be revealed as he would make no sense to show up anywhere but a Smash Direct, unless you think he's gonna be dropped in Incineroar's trailer which wouldn't make any sense whatsoever
Edit - Nvm, this is the special edition bundle that I'm getting confused with the other bundle that is also a special edition but is with the console and fuck all this it's too confusing
Do you all really think we'll know all the newcomers by (essentially) the end of October? I say definitely not
What I will buy into is that it could feature all the characters until the bundle releases and that Ken and Incineroar are revealed before then.
The only issue with that is it doesn't leave any time for Ken to be revealed. I can easily see Incineroar revealed in a Pokemon Direct in late October leading into the release of Let's Go. But that leaves no way for Ken to be revealed as he would make no sense to show up anywhere but a Smash Direct, unless you think he's gonna be dropped in Incineroar's trailer which wouldn't make any sense whatsoever
Edit - Nvm, this is the special edition bundle that I'm getting confused with the other bundle that is also a special edition but is with the console and fuck all this it's too confusing
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Yes, this an extremely possible, and even potentially likely assumption.
Incineroar and Ken may be the next two revealed, but not the last bunch, and the last bunch are not going to be on any boxes because there's too many chances the entire thing would leak if they were
They won't, we just won't see ARMS represented in a playable capacity in the base roster. Remember, the base roster was finalized almost 3 years ago.
That bundle comes with the game dude. Its not yhe november 2nd bundle
That's the special edition console, not the game. They're not releasing the special edition of the game a month early.
Incineroar X Ken sounds like a perfect cross over for a reveal trailer, though?
If there is a Square rep as has been rumored then they might want to keep it a closely guarded secret. Even Vergeben isn't sure who it is yet. It seems like it could be huge.
... it's also possible that if the Square rep is Sora, maybe he wouldn't be allowed on the box.
I don't care much about Dixie but damn. If she doesn't get in again...
Absolutely. Fire-based fighters duking it out in some sort of tournament? Its no too hard to imagine. At the very least, it'd make more sense than a trailer that featured Captain Falcon beating up on Fire Emblem characters.
that's the exact same thing as if we didnt think there was two
No it doesn't. You're confusing the Special Edition for the game, with the limited edition Switch console bundle. That releases in November, but this releases alongside the game.
Ah ok, you're right. Don't know what this changes overall in the discussion.
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