That's probably how most "leakers" are. They come into some info and decide to milk it for all it's worth. That's why I make it a point never to trust people who get one thing right.
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The tweet wasn't his only hint at a Square Enix newcomer though.
But then why point out the Bamco imbaisance if no one else is backing up them getting another newcomer?
Classic Dante (DMC 1-4) >>> Crazy Uncle Dante (DMC5) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Edgelord Nephilim Dipshit Dante (DmC)
I think Imran's tweet was more of a hint toward square and not Bamco. His actual posts are definitely about square
Right, so like I said in that post, it's entirely plausible that the box does not represent every character that will be in the game. So I guess if "BOX THEORY" is rigidly defined as "there's absolutely no way there's no more than 1 echo and 1 new character because the box", then yeah, that's silly. But to say there's not very clear and deliberate patterns in how the box was designed is also silly.
At the very least, I would say that this 100% confirms Ken, and makes Echoes for any other currently known character very unlikely.
Also, I personally believe this is the final box (minus Isabelle and character 69 on the side we view), if only because there's no reason to deliberately plan it in this way if it's not at least intended to be. But there's no reason to believe characters can't be on the back or entirely unlisted, so that doesn't mean much more.
The DMC5 leak on 4chan mentioned that DMC4 would come to the Switch, so there's that.
If it's not at TGS then I'm really going to doubt that.
Hell I'm already doubting it because it wasn't in the Direct.
The lethal weaponry thing is just nonsense when Snake is using mortars, rocket launchers, c4, grenade launchers, land mines, hand grenades and slashing at people with a combat knife.
Even ignoring the gimmicks introduced by REmake that could be interesting, RE2 and 4 have more than enough options and you can bet if Claire wasn't in, he'd also have the bow gun as a nod to her.
Yeah, I was assuming Box Theory meant only those two. I guess we should call it Box Law instead, while Box Theory is just the idea that we'll get at least Incineroar and Ken
Huh? No I'm talking about the "leaked" trailer with Lucina.
I could see a TGS reveal, especially with Dante's formal gameplay reveal being there for DMC5 (likely with a V tease).
I can see the Prince from Katamari Damacy as a realistic newcomer more than ever after the Direct.
EDIT: The creator of Katamari is against the idea of motion controls (he says "they're nothing but a diversion created for business reasons") so I doubt he's at all involved with this remaster :-/
EDIT: The creator of Katamari is against the idea of motion controls (he says "they're nothing but a diversion created for business reasons") so I doubt he's at all involved with this remaster :-/
I think it';s been explainedi n passing like 4 times on this page
There's a couple of large assumptions for this "box theory"
- First off, one must assume that the box art isn't final. This might not seem like a big leap, but it is. The special edition comes out in a month and a half. The boxes are being produced RIGHT NOW, and the assembly line for those boxes would be place #1 for a full roster leak if 100% of characters were on the box. I can't find a page anywhere that mentions that the box art isn't final, either, which is generally on placeholders. I'm also not at all convinced the entire roster will be known by November 2. That is over a month away from release, so we'd get no new Smash news for an entire month? No way.
- Second off, it assumes the back half of the box has characters on it. We don't know that. It could actually spill onto the back for all we know.
- First off, one must assume that the box art isn't final. This might not seem like a big leap, but it is. The special edition comes out in a month and a half. The boxes are being produced RIGHT NOW, and the assembly line for those boxes would be place #1 for a full roster leak if 100% of characters were on the box. I can't find a page anywhere that mentions that the box art isn't final, either, which is generally on placeholders. I'm also not at all convinced the entire roster will be known by November 2. That is over a month away from release, so we'd get no new Smash news for an entire month? No way.
- Second off, it assumes the back half of the box has characters on it. We don't know that. It could actually spill onto the back for all we know.
Well, sakurai said he wanted every character revealed before launch. He wants to avoid leaks.
Was there a release date given for the special edition, because this comes with the game. Not a code or anything...
the special edition switch, which is not what this is, is november 2
You don't do that by putting the entire roster on a box that will be produced months in advance of release...
That's like the opposite of preventing leaks
Yeah...I think folks have it confused with the Switch and the accessories. No way the special edition with the game will be available in November.
Ah, that. Sorry I misread.
Yeah, I think that's just some wannabe leaker's fanfiction.
The only person that's supposedly leaked his playable existence managed to pants and discredit himself. The moon being its own AT also isn't evidence when there's already precedent for an AT's seemingly arbitrary removal in the next game.
The game obviously won't be with the special edition over a month before release.
That in hindsight, no one is backing up Bamco part. I feel the only reason Square was commented on is because their side of support was lacking and even had a thread. Not so much Namco.
Review copies are a thing and someone is bound to leak before release. And the box would look off balanced to just add a row
A reflective surface and instructions to peer into it while speaking Sakurai's name five times.
The DMC people especifically said No Dante In Smash.
This is not a case of "no comment" or "we don't talk about rumours". That's as clear cut as it comes for me.
This is not a case of "no comment" or "we don't talk about rumours". That's as clear cut as it comes for me.
I have yet to see a "art not final" note on any special edition pre-order pages.
As far as I'm aware, that's the final box. RIP Isabelle, guess you're not in the game!
As far as I'm aware, that's the final box. RIP Isabelle, guess you're not in the game!
It's not lethal weaponry Sakurai is opposed to. It's "realistic" weaponry. Explosions and weapons derived from such are more commonly associated with cartoon violence, so weapons like rocket launchers and bombs are usually fair game. Realistic guns, ballistic firearms and shorthand blades however lean more towards "realistic violence", most likely because there's a bigger element of brutality associated with them. And I'm not the one who makes the rules on that; that's usually how the rating boards judges the level of violence in games. Sakurai employs a similar metric to keep the game's subsequent age rating in check.
Don't forget the inside, they could have printed more characters on the inside so you have a nice surprise when you open it
I trust Imran, but this has never looked to me as him hinting at characters, but rather him making an observation.
Wtf?
Moon AT, Timing of MM3D, lack of AT are all more convincing evidence
At this point DLC discussion is going to be more interesting than newcomer discussion
Like for newcomers you just pick 1-6 of these
DLC? Those horizons are much more open.
Like for newcomers you just pick 1-6 of these
- Ken
- Shadow
- Geno
- Dante
- Incineroar :-3
- Elma
- Steve
DLC? Those horizons are much more open.
Since we're talking about Imran again I'm gonna quote this old post. It's not just the tweet that ought to be taken as a hint - although this post was more about how it's unlikely Geno would be the Square Enix rep.
I mean, we're inevitably getting a second Smash Direct either October or November, and they'll have plenty to talk about without stuffing it full of character reveals, so there only being a handful left makes sense.
If there were any more, they would've revealed a few outside of Directs by now (echoes especially).
If there were any more, they would've revealed a few outside of Directs by now (echoes especially).
Basically. They could just ignore it. Same for another very requested character, but I don't want to open this pandora box.
People better like Dragon Quest around here...
Think the DLC characters will be very 3rd party focused, like they were for Smash 4?
So it doesn't matter that much since the point of "this is the final box, which would be missing characters anyway" is the one ned is pushing but just to clear it up
The special edition, this thing
Is coming December 7th.
this
Is November 2nd and the box doesnt show anything like the special edition does
The special edition, this thing
Is coming December 7th.
this
Is November 2nd and the box doesnt show anything like the special edition does
DMC4SE coming to Switch was also part of the original Dante leak.
Either way, as a newcomer he makes a lot of sense. He's a popular third party character, iconic, would be cool to be able to have Bayonetta and Dante in the same game for the first time and able to fight each other, and makes sense for the third party from a synergy point of view with a new game coming out shortly.
It all adds up pretty well. And most importantly he has fantastic moveset potential and could be really fun.
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