I can't believe y'all are taking box theory so seriously but not the Tried and True Music Rule.
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His predictions are only Ken, SE rep and Pokémon (Incineroar likely). No Bamco, which is even weirder considering most of his leaks come from them, so they may be sitting this one out after all.
He didn't; someone impersonating him did, which is confusing people I guess.
EDIT: or they are mixing him up with Imran. Either works
I am talking about the Character Select Screen, but it definitely seems possible to add another few to the back of the game box.
EDIT: I wish more people talked about my CSS Theory than the Box theory. lol.
You're right, I'm mistaking that one for another rumour. My point stands though.
There's always the possibility that they just resize the characters one more time or (hear me out) they put the remainder in the back.
I mean. The furniture rule, the music rule and now the box math. It isn't that different than a regular friday over here.
I suppose i just can't understand why they would announce half of the newcomers all at once. Especially given the manner in which the Chrom and Dark Samus announcements were made in such a low key way. Of course there's still plenty of content left for a presumed second Smash direct to reveal but the relative lack of character reveals that are presumably left is just suprising to me after the previous direct.
You mean like snake recovering using a Cypher which werent even part of MGS until the second game where you mostly play as Raiden?
They can easily mix and match moves, just like the Belmonts do to represent multiple entries. Im not saying its a likely character choice, but I also dont think its hard to come up with a fun moveset.
The grenade types alone work like elemental magic.
The chair theory falling through broke people. No one knows what to debate endlessly since Skull Kid is less likely than ever.
I believed from the start!
This only emboldens the louder among the Isaac and Geno hopefuls though. Which is.... not good.
Honestly the main reason I don't think there's a big third party pick left is because Simon wasn't revealed at E3. If they had 2 big 3rd party characters to announce I'd think one would be announced at E3 and one would be announced at around halfway into the hype cycle.
Geno though, he'd fit as a Square rep while also being such a niche choice that he fits as the final reveal. Everyone is saying they're gonna top it off with some huge megaton announcement but that just seems like wishful thinking ignoring how these things have actually gone in the past. The final reveals tend to be the most low-key ones.
Geno though, he'd fit as a Square rep while also being such a niche choice that he fits as the final reveal. Everyone is saying they're gonna top it off with some huge megaton announcement but that just seems like wishful thinking ignoring how these things have actually gone in the past. The final reveals tend to be the most low-key ones.
The coolest attack Isabelle has is the fishing rod. Looks pretty fun. I always thought Dixie coudl do something similar with her hair. Another idea someone had on Smashboards was that Dixie coudl be like CatONinetails from DKC2 and spin around and take enemies within her hair and shoot them upward. Great!
Personally, I think it would be cool if Dixie could launch Kiddy into the air and he could come crashing down, breaking the stage in half. So every stage would not only have battlefield and final destination versions, but Kiddy Kong broke-them-in-half versions, too.
I am available to add more ideas to your design document, Sakurai. Where are you going? Why are you running?
Personally, I think it would be cool if Dixie could launch Kiddy into the air and he could come crashing down, breaking the stage in half. So every stage would not only have battlefield and final destination versions, but Kiddy Kong broke-them-in-half versions, too.
I am available to add more ideas to your design document, Sakurai. Where are you going? Why are you running?
The most recent example is the final DLC Direct. Sakurai could have easily saved Simon and Richter for the last character announcement, especially considering how elaborate the whole Castlevania fanservice aspect of the game is and how nicely it seems to tie to whatever the Green Menu mode is with Dracula. The fact that he didn't tells me he has something else.
And that something else is probably Minecraft. Search your feelings, you know them to be true.
Well if that's the case I'll be fine with Elma and a retro rep. That'd be a fine way to end off the roster if they're going the low key route then.
I feel it's a step up from analyzing clouds in a trailer.
Does that mean we can at stop paying attention to Loz18?
Skull Kid Talk wouldn't have happen if Loz hadn't mentioned him.
You still play as Snake during crucial portions of MGS2 tho, and the main reason they probably gave him the cypher is because there's never really been a tool or item that could realistically be used for vertical elevation in the MGS series. That was a concession made out of necessity rather than conscious limitation.
Also the bolded is literally all I'm arguing here. As far as personal opinion goes, weapons like the Shotgun and Samurai's Edge are part of what make Resident Evil so memorable to me, but regardless of that opinion I don't particularly feel strongly for debating an RE moveset because I don't expect that kind of compromise to be something Sakurai would want to settle for unless they had an arsenal that could pass without it - such as Snake, who has most of his games actively discourage you from using lethal weaponry in favor of sneaky tactics.
I'm not sure why ya'll are representing "BOX THEORY" as something extremely complex and absurd thing (also lol, why the fuck we gotta name everything).
The characters are indeed broken down into groupings of 9, with every other grouping being present on the visible side. That's a fact and it's not some completely absurd nonsense that requires squinting and "Half-Life 3 confirmed"-tier math. You just have to... look at the officially provided numbers and look at the box right there. From there it's not exactly a jump to say that the other missing exactly 50% of the character list in exactly interchanging groupings is on the other side. Again, this isn't some absurd leap with nonsense-math it's just... how the box is designed. Which leaves one character on each side, and each side has exactly one block of 8 where the missing 36th character from each side would be. Again, not a leap, because... each side would fit exactly 36 and each side has 35 atm... And the block on the left includes Ryu (Ken), and the block on the right is with all the new characters (character 69).
It's all extremely clear that this is exactly how the box, as it currently is, was deliberately designed to be configured. Like, there's really not much room for argument unless you think the Echo space is for say, Cloud instead of Ryu. So I'm not sure how this is being deemed as "lol box math" (there's not really any math beyond 36-35 = 1...) Now could the box change to fit more? Absolutely? Could there just be more on the back? For sure. Could they just leave off some entirely? Definitely. So no one should take it as a hard rule that there's absolutely only these characters we see, no. But the current box is 100% designed to represent the characters as described, which doesn't exactly seem arbitrary.
The characters are indeed broken down into groupings of 9, with every other grouping being present on the visible side. That's a fact and it's not some completely absurd nonsense that requires squinting and "Half-Life 3 confirmed"-tier math. You just have to... look at the officially provided numbers and look at the box right there. From there it's not exactly a jump to say that the other missing exactly 50% of the character list in exactly interchanging groupings is on the other side. Again, this isn't some absurd leap with nonsense-math it's just... how the box is designed. Which leaves one character on each side, and each side has exactly one block of 8 where the missing 36th character from each side would be. Again, not a leap, because... each side would fit exactly 36 and each side has 35 atm... And the block on the left includes Ryu (Ken), and the block on the right is with all the new characters (character 69).
It's all extremely clear that this is exactly how the box, as it currently is, was deliberately designed to be configured. Like, there's really not much room for argument unless you think the Echo space is for say, Cloud instead of Ryu. So I'm not sure how this is being deemed as "lol box math" (there's not really any math beyond 36-35 = 1...) Now could the box change to fit more? Absolutely? Could there just be more on the back? For sure. Could they just leave off some entirely? Definitely. So no one should take it as a hard rule that there's absolutely only these characters we see, no. But the current box is 100% designed to represent the characters as described, which doesn't exactly seem arbitrary.
Loz said right before the Direct that Isabelle wouldn't be playable, and definitely wouldn't be shown in this Direct
Box theory is dumb. No way they would be that dumb to put every character on the box unless they plan on unveiling everyone in October.
The remaining Vergeben leaks are just:
Imran is the one who hinted at:
There's also the DMCV leaker who additionally said Dante is in Smash.
And the more recent 4chan post that said Isabelle would be the direct reveal and also leaks:
Due to the consistency of the various leaks it seems like Ken, Incineroar, A Square Rep, and Dante at minimum are extremely likely.
The Namco rep is a bit more questionable since only Imran hinted at it, and the hint possibly could primarily/only be referencing the Square rep that Vergeben leaked.
- Ken echo fighter
- Gen 7 Pokemon (maybe Incineroar)
- A Square rep
- Minecraft content of some sort
Imran is the one who hinted at:
- A Square rep
- A Namco rep
- Dante (possibly)
There's also the DMCV leaker who additionally said Dante is in Smash.
And the more recent 4chan post that said Isabelle would be the direct reveal and also leaks:
- Ken
- Incineroar
- Dante
Due to the consistency of the various leaks it seems like Ken, Incineroar, A Square Rep, and Dante at minimum are extremely likely.
The Namco rep is a bit more questionable since only Imran hinted at it, and the hint possibly could primarily/only be referencing the Square rep that Vergeben leaked.
I don't see what's so ~wild and crazy~ about analzying a box
it's a box that has conspicuous blank spaces and whose displayed fighters conspicuousness makes a match pair with the other side of the box
there's other avenues of things to be on the box (maybe they shrink and move them around, maybe the back has the original 8, etc) but it's not that crazy to try and math it out.
it's a box that has conspicuous blank spaces and whose displayed fighters conspicuousness makes a match pair with the other side of the box
there's other avenues of things to be on the box (maybe they shrink and move them around, maybe the back has the original 8, etc) but it's not that crazy to try and math it out.
I stopped paying attention to him ages ago. Dude is an attention-seeking loon.
I think the doubt comes from the fact that it comes out a month early
Since a Square rep is seemingly the only agreed rep among leakers thus far that leaves both Dante and a Bamco rep on the most tenuous ground. There's overall seemingly been more talk about Dante and a lot of circumstantial evidence has been lining up, but despite Imran being the only one suggesting it, he's been reliable in the past as well... plus it just kind of makes sense for another Bamco rep (even if the three biggest frontrunners all come with massive caveats), unless the tweet about Bamco missing a rep is a deliberate red herring and might not be a factor until DLC.
Things are getting cuhrayzee. I'm too scared to lean either way.
Things are getting cuhrayzee. I'm too scared to lean either way.
Brock Reiher I admit defeat. The music rule is iron clad. Skull Kid was little more than a hoax led by a pied piper and chair wielding heretics.
Nowhere that I can see does it say "packaging not final"
It might be that they produced the boxes when only those characters were announced and didn't add any other fighters because it would be a stupidly easy way to leak the entire roster months ahead of time as the boxes go into production
It might be that they produced the boxes when only those characters were announced and didn't add any other fighters because it would be a stupidly easy way to leak the entire roster months ahead of time as the boxes go into production
People said he was trolling in his discord and got everything wrong about the Direct. After Isabelle was revealed, he deleted his twitter and left the discord channels. We can just ignore him completely from now on, dude was probably just someone with access to the E3 demo that wanted 5 minutes of fame.
I am genuinely starting to think we have been misreading Imran's tweet the entire time because if I am correct, it would line up with the box perfectly
Huh? He's the most likely he's ever been in smash history right now with all the stones alligning.
He could just be final reveal. If we do get a Gen 7 Pokemon (Incineroar), Square Rep (Geno, Sora, DQ), and him.
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