I'm gonna be a good sport about it but you fucker better make it explicit next time.And yet the RNG fell in your favour and you won the best avatar of the bunch.
Would Donkey Kong Jr. count as Cranky Kong or was that retconned?IMO, here's who I'd list as the biggest remaining Nintendo all-stars. These are all characters who've had tons and tons of consistency as main/supporting characters in their franchises for years.
Toad/Captain Toad
Dixie Kong
Waluigi
Bandana Waddle Dee
Cranky Kong
Peppy Hare + Slippy Toad
I'm gonna be a good sport about it but you fucker better make it explicit next time.
Would Donkey Kong Jr. count as Cranky Kong or was that retconned?
I like that a good 50% of us basically got caught out by the equivalent of "you didn't read the fine print", absolute shady tactics by BGBW.I'm gonna be a good sport about it but you fucker better make it explicit next time.
This is easy. I would say the following are hard locks as DLC, pending Sakurai doesn't pull a fast one and somehow miraculously put them in the base game:Well im not sure what the DLC characters will be but i wouldnt be surprised if it was filled with anyone that came after planning session was over in 2015
I like that a good 50% of us basically got caught out by the equivalent of "you didn't read the fine print", absolute shady tactics by BGBW.
Now, what exactly is the context of my avatar and who the flip is this character anyway? I do appreciate getting this bizarre bird/dragon/idol hybrid at least.
I honestly expected Haruka!
You're right. I just confused myself in my original post.Cranky is the original DK, and the modern DK is said to be his grandson. So we haven't seen Jr. for a long time.
Who'd you lose a bet to? Nice avatar ;-3
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Yes yes yes yes please, let Impa get a few cool tricks of her own. I'll take that over mere echo status!
Basically. I don't know what they'd do exactly, but my issue with Impa being an echo is it would leave her as a standard ninja type, and less like what we've seen of Sheikah post-OoT (which had almost nothing, just the smoke bomb).
Apparently I lost the group Isabelle bet lol
inb4 okabe
She says Hi I'm Daisy.I don't know about this whole business of echoes vs semi clones vs full newcomers....it doesn't matter to me anymore. Just don't be suprised if Isabelle is an exception.
All I want to know is that will Daisy have anything that isn't purely cosmetic. What seperates her from the Inkling Boy or Ludwig or others?
20-something users lost an avatar bet to BGBW (about whether or not Isabelle will be an original character, echo or playable at all).
No shit, but it means there is a distinction and there may or may not be another semi clone or two.
I absolutely love your avatar.
(Now, on-topic)
I feel like yeah we get dramatic about characters and levels and who is "deserving" and "stage theory" and "music theory" and loz and verg but at the end of the day I feel like we all agree that this game is already shaping up to be amazing and the roster is aces.
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does that make you feel?
This is exactly where my head is at, but I'm not sure about Skull Kid or Geno.
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does that make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
True, but It does mean that not every potential echo character will be forced into that role simply because they kind of work.Isabelle being unique-ish /=/ echo fighters are dead
Semi-clones are likely not in the table this time around because of balancing...but somehow Isabelle got loads of cool differences that she DOES need full neecomer balancing.
I'm personally expecting more newcomers than this, but i'd be fine with this roster and I agree with these picks (though i've been having some doubts about Skull Kid recently)
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does that make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
The question I have is, how did Vergeben know there's 6+ left? The only way he could know that is if he had 6 names for characters, and if he did, why wouldn't he leak them like he leaked everyone else?
A comment he made on Reddit after E3 that implied we would get 6 more character reveals. Keep in mind this was after Inkling and Ridley were revealed so Simon, K Rool, and maybe Isabelle were a part of this.
https://www.eventhubs.com/imagegallery/2018/jun/16/more-characters-super-smash-bros-ultimate/1/
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
I'd be totally fine with Donkey Kong getting Fire Emblem-level representation. Donkey Kong Jr w/ a Stanley assist in his Final Smash is secretly one of my most wanted characters.The DK franchise needs Dixie, Cranky, and Funky to feel complete, lol.
Would be amazing, if we get Heihachi in there it would be just about perfect.
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
Not enough Minecraft
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
I'm pretty sure that he threw it out to keep himself relevant in spoiler scenes.
No, He leaked Simon so Simon don't counted toward to 6 characters. I don't think he counted Isabelle since they thought she was an echo fighter. Also it's plausible that 6 characters was just a leak that DasVergeben trying to keep himself relevant in smash spoilers. We will never know.
IMO, here's who I'd list as the biggest remaining Nintendo all-stars. These are all characters who've had tons and tons of consistency as main/supporting characters in their franchises for years.
Toad/Captain Toad
Dixie Kong
Waluigi
Bandana Waddle Dee
Cranky Kong
Peppy Hare + Slippy Toad
I don't see any reason to swap out Geno; he's the most likely Square Enix newcomer (which is definitely happening if you believe Imran and Vergeben).
This is my final prediction until the next reveal. I have abandoned all hopes and dreams. This is serious business now.
New Fighters:
Inkling
Ridley
Simon Belmont
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar - Unconfirmed
Skull Kid - Unconfirmed
Geno - Unconfirmed
New Echo Fighters:
Dark Samus (Samus)
Daisy (Peach)
Chrom (Roy)
Shadow (Sonic) - Unconfirmed
Ken (Ryu) - Unconfirmed
Richter Belmont
That totals to 8 new fighters and 6 new echo fighters for a grand total of 14 new fighters.
How does this make you feel?
(I didn't forget about Mii Fighters. They would just clog up the roster. They only appear when you create a Mii anyway.)
Sure, DK Jr, Dixie, Funky, and Cranky all would be great from a moveset and history angleI'd be totally fine with Donkey Kong getting Fire Emblem-level representation. Donkey Kong Jr w/ a Stanley assist in his Final Smash is secretly one of my most wanted characters.
Not really, no. Not counting the Ultimate teaser in March, we've had E3 in early June, and the Smash Direct in late August, with nothing new in July, followed by the Isabelle reveal now in September.
The pre-release Smash Direct will likely be happening in late October to early November (so about a month before release), and except maybe some character reveal in a game-specific Direct, I doubt we'll see anything up until then, and it's also unlikely we'll get any more character reveals after that, since we've been told we'll get all characters revealed prior to launch, and the review copies will start going out throughout November.
I don't see any reason to swap out Geno; he's the most likely Square Enix newcomer (which is definitely happening if you believe Imran and Vergeben).