It's really important for these kind of #outrage narratives that all white people are lumped together as one group.
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RUMOR: Netflix looking now for white actress for "young Ciri".
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It's really important for these kind of #outrage narratives that all white people are lumped together as one group.
Lol, the Witcher is not based on Polish history. It's not remotely historical fiction. It's a purely fictional fantasy world that uses Polish culture, myths, etc
Problem is the games are much more popular. They even put the artwork of the games on the books now lol.
And yet you're wearing that white boy Snake avatar even though could've picked anybody else and boost their representation on teh internetz at least.
Reddit was a complete shitshow.
I mean, it's reddit, but still.
Seems rather unlikely that Netflix would dramatically shift their casting preferences in the space of, what, a week? And going by Lauren's tweet from earlier in the year ...
I'm thinking that dramatically changing Ciri's appearance from what's presented in the books was perhaps not the original intention.
Think you guys might have missed the joke.
I'm thinking that dramatically changing Ciri's appearance from what's presented in the books was perhaps not the original intention.
Think you guys might have missed the joke.
If keira Knightly was younger I think she would have been a good pick. There are so many female leads that can fit that part, I would prefer them to be british if possible.
It's not like Eastern European actors are swimming in high profile roles in Hollywood. So I don't get the outrage here other the fact that Poles want some representation in an adaptation of the IP from polish writer that is heavily influenced by Slavic mythology.
Nothing against Cavill, but there are enough opportunities for anglo-saxon lads in other movies and shows. Seems like they're making another generic high fantasy with people speaking in RP.
Nothing against Cavill, but there are enough opportunities for anglo-saxon lads in other movies and shows. Seems like they're making another generic high fantasy with people speaking in RP.
Can you use black people and Asian people please. "blacks" is used by racists to make us not seem human
I feel like you're going to lose any argument when you mention a user's avatar as a reason to dismiss theirs.
If they actually bent to internet backlash that really sucks. If the reports of a non-white Ciri were just wrong, however, or if the casting changed for some other reason, like if the plan had been to cast all Nilfgaardians as darker, but then they landed a high-profile white actor for Emhyr or something, then I feel really bad they're going to look like they chickened out on what would've been a pretty sensible road to adding some diversity to the core cast. I'm sure you can work a lot of the other characters to have them be non-white, but Ciri would've worked well.
The internet
I've seen massive amounts of people showing disappointment about Ciri not being white. Even black people. One dude was like, man, yall better stop taking these white people's heros before next thing we know they gonna remake Martin starring Tobey Maguire. lol Black twitter be having me weak.
I will watch this show no matter who they cast - doesn't really matter to me as I'm a huge fan of the books and games.
Funny thing I noticed about some people here:
Ciri won't be white - "Yes! Great! Non white Ciri is great, skin color have NOTHING to do with her personality and doesn't matter, I don't care if she was white in books, series and games!"
Ciri will be white - "Fuck whaaa?!! Fuck Netflix and everyone involved! How dare they?! I'll cancel my subscription FOREVER!"
What the hell? Why you making so much noise because of her skin color, if said skin color is unimportant for you?
Also a lot of posters are ignoring fact that they looking for polish actress, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't polish people in minority in America? Isn't Ciri played by polish actress good for diversity?
Ciri won't be white - "Yes! Great! Non white Ciri is great, skin color have NOTHING to do with her personality and doesn't matter, I don't care if she was white in books, series and games!"
Ciri will be white - "Fuck whaaa?!! Fuck Netflix and everyone involved! How dare they?! I'll cancel my subscription FOREVER!"
What the hell? Why you making so much noise because of her skin color, if said skin color is unimportant for you?
Also a lot of posters are ignoring fact that they looking for polish actress, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't polish people in minority in America? Isn't Ciri played by polish actress good for diversity?
There are many characters that makes sense for them to change the cast, I doubt we'll see further backlashes when other main characters get cast.
The rumor was for Ciri, based on all the evidence.
You have a good point here. And I agree about the western Europeans discriminating against eastern Europeas (the nazi party here in the Netherlands had a website for people to specifically complain about Polish people).
I'd be for a Eastern European Witcher show ran by Netflix.
However, the discussion online seems to mostly be about a possible non-white Ciri and are abusing the "it's a polish fantasy story!" Line while obviously not caring about Henry Cavill (cuz white guy).
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Just got this pointed out to me. =/
Ababol is part of the "cuz white guy" group too.
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I'm Southwestern European and I'd love if the show was filled with good Eastern European actors. They always seem to be misrepresented or relegated to villanous roles and this would be a good showcase for them and Easter European culture (of which I know close to nothing about) as well.
Judging by some replies in the thread it seems that some people think that being played by someone white = being represented regardless of the actual ethnic background. I mean, americans probably wouldn't understand why some bosniaks might have a problem with serbs being cast as bosniaks in Hollywood films.
The dude you replying to did the whole "what if a Black Panther character was white" shit. He is being very sus
Sorry, that wasn't my intention at all. English is not my first language and I didn't know that.
A minor storm over an unsubstantiated rumor followed by a minor storm over possible clarification.
But where there's possible drama and accusations to be made lets run wild.
'the alt-right won', is the very definition of a strawman There was nothing to win in the first place, the initial premise didn't exist.
But where there's possible drama and accusations to be made lets run wild.
'the alt-right won', is the very definition of a strawman There was nothing to win in the first place, the initial premise didn't exist.
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The TV series really should try to be it's own thing and offer something unique rather than just try to perfectly emulate the games.
I don't get why people care so much. It's their show their vision. Let them do whatever they want. If a guy want to do a show with black people he will cast black people only for a certain role. I don't see the big deal especially when the original character it is based on is white.
i only have problem with it when "the" is used before XYZ, "the blacks" or "the jews". but that could be because my grammar sucks
Then we get the problem of an old white lady putting on blackface
You may not have thought this through lol
Not really, no
Yes ,yes, I realized that after some people pointed that out lol
Same reason there was outrage for a while that there wasn't a playable female Link in BOTW. The rumour that there was came BEFORE the confirmation that there wasn't. Despite there never being any plan for a female link, people feel they lost something or devs had decided to not be inclusive when there was never going to be an option in the first place.
Funnily enough, this will now muddy any discussion surrounding the casting and show and when the show turns out bad, the showrunners who all possess incredibly average filmography credits (which should be the real red flag for this show's quality) will slip out.
That was the assumption people made. Yes. But it never directly stated that like this is. It could easily be (and probably was) for a completely different character.
It did state that though. Maybe it was fake or a diversion, but the casting called was for Ciri, grandaughter of Calanthe, the Lioness of Cintra etc
Bugger off with your lame attempts at trying to paint me a hypocrite, I'll happily criticise the lack of diversity in Metal Gear and its disturbing history of female representation. Doesn't mean I'm not able to enjoy the series for its many other elements.
If you disagree with what I've said then actually argue my point.
Reading through the thread.
It was never confirmed they were actually looking for a BAME to play her (posts in thread about separate ciri casting and a BAME casting).
The original character is supposedly white (confirmed in thread)
I don't think ciri is polish (if she is then ignore this point) so i don't know why skill set is being limited to 'Caucasian/White Polish' if true
As you can tell i never read the books but i've played the games so i'm cool with a white character also wouldn't mind a black one.
But sticking to authenticity is a good enough reason so i don't see the outrage over her being white tbh.
Nor the outrage over her being black tbh, might be a bit awkward coming from the games (if i ever even watch the show) for the first few secs i guess.
Let the directors do their thing.
It was never confirmed they were actually looking for a BAME to play her (posts in thread about separate ciri casting and a BAME casting).
The original character is supposedly white (confirmed in thread)
I don't think ciri is polish (if she is then ignore this point) so i don't know why skill set is being limited to 'Caucasian/White Polish' if true
As you can tell i never read the books but i've played the games so i'm cool with a white character also wouldn't mind a black one.
But sticking to authenticity is a good enough reason so i don't see the outrage over her being white tbh.
Nor the outrage over her being black tbh, might be a bit awkward coming from the games (if i ever even watch the show) for the first few secs i guess.
Let the directors do their thing.
cool cool. i would rather ciri be white to see a more faithful adaptation. either way is fine though
While white is my personal preference for Ciri due to the source material's origin, i don't care what her race is as long as the acting is good. If they auditioned openly looking for a white girl and found a black one was the best Ciri, then Ciri should be black.
The only main characters that specifically need be white are Geralt (a sickly pale white, unnaturally so) and Yen (who's pale white skin is meant to contrast with her otherwise dark motif).
The only main characters that specifically need be white are Geralt (a sickly pale white, unnaturally so) and Yen (who's pale white skin is meant to contrast with her otherwise dark motif).