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Who is the most manly man in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate?

  • Snake

    Votes: 176 20.4%
  • Simon Belmont

    Votes: 176 20.4%
  • Captain Falcon

    Votes: 328 38.0%
  • Ryu

    Votes: 69 8.0%
  • Ike

    Votes: 114 13.2%

  • Total voters
    863
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Crayolan

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I'm only expecting 2 more newcomers, probably a Pokemon and Geno. In my dreams the final two will be from 2 unrepresented first party franchises.
 

Tribal_Cult

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I love how the underwhelming reveal of Isabelle has pushed back all expectations. Hope it's the usual bait from Sakurai though, and the next reveal will blow everyone's minds.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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kirby_fox

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Cool to see a semi clone, I was hoping they might do one with Dixie. We're definitely getting 2 revealed next time whenever that is.

I'm starting to think Shadow and Skull Kid will be bosses. I'm thinking Dixie, Elma, a popular Pokemon, and Ken as playable. And then one more third party before launch.

And DLC will focus on stuff Sakurai wanted to happen.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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She has a completely different dodging mechanic. And floatier too.

Not being in the morphball for back roll? Rolls have intangibility so its still just an animation change rather than a different mechanic unless you know something I don't.
The wiki seems to just list a bunch of aesthetic changes so I dont think anyones noticed anything significantly different.
 

Mark1

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Oct 30, 2017
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Not being in the morphball for back roll? Rolls have intangibility so its still just an animation change rather than a different mechanic unless you know something I don't.
The wiki seems to just list a bunch of aesthetic changes so I dont think anyones noticed anything significantly different.
I will gladly be proven wrong if that is indeed the case.

Seemed like she was more combo heavy too, but that may just be me as I haven't watched the footage in a while
 
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TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isabelle looks cute but a bit of a disappointing/boring reveal. Another notch in Vergeben's belt though. Guess we have Incineroar, Ken, and a square rep to look forward to.
 

Metto

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Maybe Verg's info was based on an earlier build before she got upgraded from an Echo. Perhaps Sakurai's column next week will give us a better insight to how Isabelle got in the way she did.
 

Tribal_Cult

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Vergeben said she was an echo though...

Things change, I still remember that leak for Smash 4 which predicted basically everything except Chrom and the Chorus Kids, but there was a lot of evidence implying those two were actually took in consideration for the game and later scrapped (Chrom probably got reworked into Lucina, and there was the Rhythm Heaven enemy in Smash Run, the only franchise represented in the mode without a playable fighter). Vergeben's source probably comes from a time in which Isabelle was indeed an echo, probably 2015/2016 info. Vergeben has been too much on the money to be fluff in my opinion. I guess these leaks simply come from a time in which the roster has been planned, yet not finalized, so a couple of things can change.
 

PushDustIn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cool you think that and when Shadow gets revealed as an echo well come back to this

People were saying Dark Samus and Isabelle weren't locks either

Shadow lacked a DLC costume and there isn't a strong rumor he's in.

Dark Samus and Ike had an alt missing. Chrom had a Mii Costume in the last game, as well as Isabelle. Isabelle also had Verge's backing.

Sonic never had a Shadow alt.
They never made a Mii Costume based on him.
I just don't think he's a "lock".
 

TMaakkonen

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Oct 26, 2017
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Pokemon Direct with Incineroar, and final Direct with 2 newcomers.

Still feeling Geno is one final reveal, it seems too fitting for final reveal. Of course, 1st reveal of Final Direct might be long explaining one ala Simon. Maybe Isaac for Golden Sun reveal?

Of course, Dante might also be one, he actually seems like crazy Sakurai pick. As for Capcom denying Dante for Smash, well they wouldn't just reveal him ahead of time now would they. Or maybe not, who knows.

Bandana & Magolor are BTFO because they aren't Sakurai's vision or babies. Also, maybe 2 echoes.

Although that one last slot besides Pokemon & Geno, it could be anyone.
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Vergeben said she was an echo though...
A couple things. He originally said he didn't know if she was an echo or not. Just that she was in. The echo comment was more recent, and honestly at first glance she does seem like an echo... because she's a semi-clone. That's a simple mistake to make and definitely not something that makes him wrong.

He was the first person to talk about Isabelle. And notably, he has never leaked an echo until Ken -- and Ken was only something he started talking about after Isabelle. Therefore, it's safe to say that Vergeben's Smash source was not privvy to echo fighter info and because she clearly has Villager variation moves the source thought she looked like an echo even though she was actually a semi-clone.

This confirmation definitely does not wreck Vergeben's smash credibility.
 

Tribal_Cult

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Nov 1, 2017
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Shadow lacked a DLC costume and there isn't a strong rumor he's in.

Dark Samus and Ike had an alt missing. Chrom had a Mii Costume in the last game, as well as Isabelle. Isabelle also had Verge's backing.

Sonic never had a Shadow alt.
They never made a Mii Costume based on him.
I just don't think he's a "lock".

They still haven't showed him as an assist trophy, and we got Knuckles instead. He's not a lock, nobody truly is, but he's as probable as you can get. Also, don't underestimate the power of Sonic representation among the younger audience. Shadow is pretty damn popular and big as a character.
 

memoryman3

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Oct 26, 2017
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I love how cartoony and cute Isabelle looks! Man, she looks like the best newcomer in Smash so far....

Regarding echo fighters, I would not be surprised if some of them got a few decent changes besides Chrom. Sakurai seemed to mean it when he says he adjusts abilites and params, especially with Isabelle....

I am still salty that they couldn't think of something OTHER than turnips though for Daisy.
 

Okabe

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Oh uh this happened

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memoryman3

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Oct 26, 2017
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Still don't believe Dante's in the game, unless there's a stage to go with it. We saw the music list and stage list and everything.
 

Okabe

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dat confirmation bias...
Isabelle being in the direct was something I told a bunch of people would happen, but im not going to claim to be an insider.

Who knows now we have to wait until November considering the other leak with dmc5 info Kamiyas tweet pool etc etc dante has Credence but come November it could be nothing .
 

TMaakkonen

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Oct 26, 2017
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Maybe I shouldn't talk about Daisy, but what the heck.

Maybe they'll replace items Daisy can pick up from ground. Maybe she could pull a Home-Run Bat rarely.
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Interesting. Well hard to know to be sure since this is basically just what Vergeben has been saying (minus the Square rep, which Imran also supports). But he did guess correctly that Isabelle specifically would be the one revealed here. It's possible it was just a lucky guess. That said, the other Dante rumor from the guy who leaked the DMCV stuff still looks strong. So I could see it happening.

Seems like the reveal order might be:

October Pokemon Direct - Incineroar revealed.
November Smash Direct - Dante, Ken, and Square rep revealed?

And that could be it for the base game. Which honestly would be great and satisfying, personally.
 

TMaakkonen

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Honestly the one eerie thing for Dante is that Hideki Kamiya asked in Twitter what outfit Dante should use in Bayo crossover. It was done in same period as Ultimates' character choices. Unless its trademark Kamiya BS it could have been secret way to know which design to use in Smash.
 

qq more

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Oct 25, 2017
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Shadow lacked a DLC costume and there isn't a strong rumor he's in.

Dark Samus and Ike had an alt missing. Chrom had a Mii Costume in the last game, as well as Isabelle. Isabelle also had Verge's backing.

Sonic never had a Shadow alt.
They never made a Mii Costume based on him.
I just don't think he's a "lock".
Don't bother. I've given up on telling people that calling character locks a really dumb thing to do. They think someone telling them they aren't a lock is the same as telling them they're not going to be in. lol
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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Speaking of he tweeted this today. Could honestly be a joke could be a hint. Could be both who knows. November is a long ways away.
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This seems like a clear joke vs the Square/Namco rep thing that was clearly an insider hint. Insiders are people who can joke around too. There's a myriad of reasons why Witcher stuff just would never happen in Smash.
 

Tribal_Cult

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Nov 1, 2017
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I'm starting to jump on the Dante hype train. Not a big fan of DmC but whatever, he's so random I love it. Even better if he gets his classic design instead than the new one he got in Playstation All-Stars. Would be hilarious for Sony fans.
 

Okabe

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This seems like a clear joke vs the Square/Namco rep thing that was clearly an insider hint. Insiders are people who can joke around too. There's a myriad of reasons why Witcher stuff just would never happen in Smash.

That's fair just wanted to post what happened today so far
 
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