I believe hes trying to say shes adorable. I just like it was promptly pointed out that a top ranked player has been beating everyone with jigglypuff.
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I believe hes trying to say shes adorable. I just like it was promptly pointed out that a top ranked player has been beating everyone with jigglypuff.
Sorry, but I don't think any of this is valid. Smashdown has to work with any number of characters because it has to work regardless of the number of characters you've unlocked. I can't imagine Sakurai limiting the roster based on something like this.
That's interesting (and it'd be nice if there was a translation)! Man there's probabyl a ton of Brawl information we barely know anything about because it's in japanese interviews and stuff.
That said, I still feel confident that Isabelle was probably always intended to be a semiclone (or whatever is going on here).
e: Watch Famitsu's column next week just have Sakurai brazenly say "So here's Isabelle! She was an echo fighter at first, but we just couldn't let her stay that way!"
This would also be incredibly easy for a programmer to solve, so seeing that Smashdown number crunching is always kind of hilarious to me. Just have it check the number of players against the number of characters remaining or something.
Isabelle's trailer reminds me of the Smash 4 DLC characters (especially Corrin) by using in-engine Animal Crossing footage over expensive new CGI. It feels very economical.
That's why I mentioned another solution in the next paragraph.
Yeah it is very economical and that's why I think Isabelle was upgraded at some point in development. Maybe earlier this year I reckon.
I don't think you even need to go as far as that alternate solution to get over that particular hurdle. Like, the question I'm forced to ask here is "why don't you just not do that?"
Im pretty sure Armadas Princess Peach is about the most respected character in all of competitive smash, so yeah, I don't think anyone can really say it would be much different.
Shit, if you can get a thousand people chanting this kind of thing, I don't see why it wont happen if Isabelle was the character being played. I want to see what Ranai from Japan can do with the character.
Any adult who cares about smash as a concept either casually or competitively isn't going to care about how cutesy something is when something cool is happening.
I wasted effort on that guy but its probably just a bait
Incineroar and DQXI Hero.
These are the last two ones. No need to argue anymore, just accept it.
These are the last two ones. No need to argue anymore, just accept it.
Thinking more about it 4 more newcomers and 1 more semi could work out in the end.
If newcomers and Echoes were planned together they probably had planned them to be symmetrical. So about 8 Newcomers and 8 Echoes for a 16 character roster. We're already at 4 Newcomers with a Semi Clone and 4 Echoes. If we get 4 more characters that gets us to 8 Newcomers. If Isabelle was upgraded that could leave us with 3 more Echo Fighters. That could be Ken, Shadow and one other character. However I'm thinking that character might be Dixie Kong as she seems like the kind of character they would make an Echo initially.
So if it's her and she gets upgraded then we're looking at
8 Newcomers
2 Semi Clones
6 Echoes
Not a bad spread all things considered.
If newcomers and Echoes were planned together they probably had planned them to be symmetrical. So about 8 Newcomers and 8 Echoes for a 16 character roster. We're already at 4 Newcomers with a Semi Clone and 4 Echoes. If we get 4 more characters that gets us to 8 Newcomers. If Isabelle was upgraded that could leave us with 3 more Echo Fighters. That could be Ken, Shadow and one other character. However I'm thinking that character might be Dixie Kong as she seems like the kind of character they would make an Echo initially.
So if it's her and she gets upgraded then we're looking at
8 Newcomers
2 Semi Clones
6 Echoes
Not a bad spread all things considered.
As the sort of guy who likes MvC1 and TvC roster choices, I thought it was okay for a few lines.
It's in the isabelle thread. They are going off saying they also want minecraft steve and more fe characters.
4 newcomers at most and 2 echos is what I think we'll end at. If Verge continues to be right and Minecraft gets a stage, assist trophy, etc. Then I could see Banjo being likely DLC if they worked with MS to represent Minecraft.
For base roster, newcommers:
For base roster, newcommers:
- Incineroar
- Kirby rep
- Square rep
- Final majoe 3rd party reveal
- Ken
- Shadow
LOL putting Lucina and Richter in the same tier and using Lucina as a pick fans didn't want or expect.
That post is shit, but there is an element I agree with. I kind of feel like there's not a lot of passionate deep cuts Sakurai really cares about and wants to make a creative moveset for. Yeah, there are some well implemented takes on Ridley, Simon Belmont, Inkling, and King K. Rool. This game isn't going to have any creative wildcards like Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Mr Game and Watch, etc. For the last smash game he's making, it kinda makes me sad.
Lol okay I will next time. I stand by what I said though.
It's a toss up between Rayman and Geno for 3rd party newcomer.
I really think Dixie will make it. The game needs more female newcomers. Seems like Dark Samus and isabelle are the only ones so far.
they're not done revealing characters yet and this almost definitely isn't his last Smash game
Be Hopeful
We dont know its not having "creative wildcards" because we haven't seen neither the initial roster nor the DLC.
Being so far into the smash series there was always going to be less characters to use, both for popularity and personal preferences.
Sakurai: "ST Falcon was a character I had been meaning to implement for a long time. It didn't get a lot of votes in the ballot, but all of the people who voted for it were physically attractive people with pure and kind souls, so I felt that it was the right time to add it."
Do people really doubt that Sakurai is an immortal who will be working on Smash long after civilisation has fallen and we've all decomposed?
Major 3rd party will be Monster Hunter. MH is really really big right now. Bigger than Mario or Zelda or Street fighter.
Give me that King Boo and 14e. Dry BowserFun fact: 57% (24/42) of the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe cast is playable in Smash Bros. Ultimate. The percentage is much higher if you don't count the alternate versions of characters.
Will be like that part in 127 hours. Sakurai reveals Tumble from mario party 3 in smash 87, and then he also makes a bunch of reaction videos to it where he puts on wigs and stuff.
I always believe Miyazaki when he says his films are the last ones he's making. So maybe I am wrong about Sakurai being honest about this being his final Smash.
Is he trapped under a pile of gamecube controllers and has to remove his arm?
he actually broke character and said the opposite this time around
When will Metal Mario & Pink Gold Peach join the roster as Melee-styled clones.
yup, felt different than the other trailers.
The absence of CGI and even other Smash fighters in the scene before gameplay combined with the fact that she's more semi-cloney than the other newcomers really hints that she was upgraded
Isabelle is the awkward wallflower at the "smash bros furry characters" club. Everyone else is getting oiled up and wrestling and she just wants a nice cuppa.
Dry Bowser is alternate costume material like Meta Ridley. Would be weird as a separate character but actually we have Dr. Mario I guess.
Anyway:
Echo fighters - gameplay trailer
Clone / semi-clone fighters - low budget trailer using assets from other games like DLC in Sm4sh
Newcomers - high-budget Hollywood-like CGI trailer
Fuck. I like Isabelle but her alone was pretty damn underwhelming. Not a big Animal Crossing fan though.
My prediction of 12-14 total new characters seems stronger and stronger. I'm expecting one more reveal in October and the final blowout in a Smash Direct this November.
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I think the Isabelle trailer worked perfectly. It was news to tie Smash fans over while not being too big to overshadow anything. The big hype was obviously the new AC game. Never played AC but I'm excited to try it out.
Who really knows. My brother thinks there will be up to 5 more newcomers. It would still be less new newcomers than melee,brawl,4 had.
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