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Oct 25, 2017
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All I can say is, if you believe Elle being infected is major can't turn back now because the game is ruined for me spoiler you're in for a treat when you start the game.


I'm sorry you feel I spoiled the game for you but you're taking one part of the story with zero context. No one should have to tip toe around a game's story that was release somewhere around 5 years ago. I gave a spoiler warning in the topic title for more meaningful things that happens in the first Last of Us. If you feel this post is not good enough feel free to report me to a mod or admin.


I copy and paste this response I had with another user.
You know whats a spoiler is her kissing someone which isn't part of any promotional things til recently
 

gattotimo

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Marketing material isn't a spoiler.
Yeah right. Tell that to the folks who whatched the T2 trailer back in the days, just to name the first example which comes to my mind. Maybe let everyone decide for their own what they consider to be spoilers material and what not? And what's the point of putting 'spoilers' in the thread title, since you already state your theory in the same thread title?

Anyway, I hope that won't be the case. It was stupid in 28 weeks later, it would be stupid now: Ellie should know better, so it'll either be that the other girl is another immune infected, or it will be established that the virus has to enter directly in the blood stream to take on
 
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You know whats a spoiler is her kissing someone which isn't part of any promotional things til recently

I'm not sure I understand, it's not a leak of smuggled footage. It was at Sony E3 demo a few months ago. She kissed someone, can you tell me the person she kissed name or the context behind the kiss? She kissed someone before in the first game. Unless her kiss is some major plot point it's not a spoiler.
 

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I don't think Ellie can infect anyone. I think she just said this to distract David.

Was David infected though? I don't think she's an immune carrier, just immune.

I think you're onto something.

I mean the Cordyceps has supposedly wrapped itself all around her brain so I can't see why her saliva wouldn't be a vector for others to get infected

It was stated in TLOU that Ellie wasn't immune, but the fungus had evolved to be non-harmful which is why they wanted to harvest it from her. Therefore anyone Ellie "infected" would also be immune.
 
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It was stated in TLOU that Ellie wasn't immune, but the fungus had evolved to be non-harmful which is why they wanted to harvest it from her. Therefore anyone Ellie "infected" would also be immune.


That's ... a different take from what I've seen and from my own.

I don't remeber anything that indicated the fungus evolved into a non-harmful strain. I remember that Ellie was immune to the infection but her brain was able to resist the effects of the fungi which was why Marlene gave the order to harvest her brain because her blood was useless. I would like to hear more of your understanding of Ellie's immunity just because it seems so different from everyone else's.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not sure I understand, it's not a leak of smuggled footage. It was at Sony E3 demo a few months ago. She kissed someone, can you tell me the person she kissed name or the context behind the kiss? She kissed someone before in the first game. Unless her kiss is some major plot point it's not a spoiler.
That wasn't part of your arugment what I quoted.

Not knowing she was infected you could probably gleen that from both ad campaigns for the game (release and remaster) but at no time was her sexuality advertised til the E3 video. While E3 is huge still most people don't see anything about it. And Part 2 doesn't have official ads for it because the game doesn't even have a release date.

So say someone plays he base game and not DLC, beat the entire game, misses the Part 2 video. Your thread title would still spoil them for the DLC and Part 2.

He'll one could argue if they did know about the game and her being infected but never played saying she's still infected in Part 2 would be a spoiler
 

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That's ... a different take from what I've seen and from my own.

I don't remeber anything that indicated the fungus evolved into a non-harmful strain. I remember that Ellie was immune to the infection but her brain was able to resist the effects of the fungi which was why Marlene gave the order to harvest her brain because her blood was useless. I would like to hear more of your understanding of Ellie's immunity just because it seems so different from everyone else's.
The fungus still grew on her brain, just mutated, which is why it doesn't kill her, that's probably what they are referring to.
 

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That's ... a different take from what I've seen and from my own.

I don't remeber anything that indicated the fungus evolved into a non-harmful strain. I remember that Ellie was immune to the infection but her brain was able to resist the effects of the fungi which was why Marlene gave the order to harvest her brain because her blood was useless. I would like to hear more of your understanding of Ellie's immunity just because it seems so different from everyone else's.

The fungus still grew on her brain, just mutated, which is why it doesn't kill her, that's probably what they are referring to.

Yes, that is what i am referring to. I assumed this was the common thinking, but obviously not.

There are a couple of ways to explain it, but another couple of takes on my understanding below.

I think Ellie is actually the cure and you would be lucky to be bitten by her!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....llies_condition_spoilers_inside_ye_be_warned/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....llies_condition_spoilers_inside_ye_be_warned/
 

Toxi

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It's not a virus. It's a fungus spread through spores.

Ellie's immunity likely means the fungus isn't able to progress to spore-producing structures. Which means her saliva will not contain spores to infect other people with.
I think the virus is spread through spores, not saliva. Ellie doesn't produce spores.
The spores are in the saliva.
 

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The last of us was a complete fridge-fest, especially in the first act.

And let's be real - Uncharted is way lighter on the "major character killed" front. That comparison is disingenuous and you know it.
Yes, they are very different kinds of games, so I guess that proves my point that Naughty Dog is not synonymous with fridging. If you want to talk specifically about how they handled Joel's daughter in The Last of Us, I can see how someone would label that a fridging, except I'm not sure it really fits the spirit of the tag since they only did it to set up a story all about his complex relationship with a fully realized and developed female character. The whole game is about that relationship.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's not a virus. It's a fungus spread through spores.

Ellie's immunity likely means the fungus isn't able to progress to spore-producing structures. Which means her saliva will not contain spores to infect other people with.

The spores are in the saliva.
man instead of getting your yearly shots you got to get bitten by Ellie for your spore immunity
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Wait... the fact that Ellie is infected is a spoiler?

Even if I don't know a thing about the game, just knowing about the general gist of TLOU---a grown man tasked to escorting a young girl somewhere in a zombie-plagued land, it's more than enough to infer that like, really easily. It's like the most tropey of the most cliched tropes in a zombie outbreak media ever, like, yeah, it's 100% cliche. Like seriously, how many of you genuinely shocked by the revelation that Ellie is infected during playing TLOU...........??? You can like, see it from tens of thousands of miles away.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Wait... the fact that Ellie is infected is a spoiler?

Even if I don't know a thing about the game, just knowing about the general gist of TLOU---a grown man tasked to escorting a young girl somewhere in a zombie-plagued land, it's more than enough to infer that like, really easily. It's like the most tropey of the most cliched tropes in a zombie outbreak media ever, like, yeah, it's 100% cliche. Like seriously, how many of you genuinely shocked by the revelation that Ellie is infected during playing TLOU...........??? You can like, see it from tens of thousands of miles away.
it's only slightly one the real spoiler in the title is her queerness. But never be shocked at people's lack of information about something in media purposeful or not.

hell I never saw a advertisement for Avengers Infinity War until 2 months after i saw it twice
 
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it's only slightly one the real spoiler in the title is her queerness. But never be shocked at people's lack of information about something in media purposeful or not.

hell I never saw a advertisement for Avengers Infinity War until 2 months after i saw it twice

Even her being gay is often talked about by the devs in various interviews, it's not like it's considered a secret even by Naughty Dog themselves.

It's just that it's so tropey, the moment I know about the main gimmick of the game, escorting Ellie to someplace safe in a zombie-ravaged land, and the moment she joins Joel, it's really really really easy to infer that she's infected, unless you are really really ignorant about the cliches and tropes of end-of-world fiction, or heck, fiction in general.

It's really not a big deal at all.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Even her being gay is often talked about by the devs in various interviews, it's not like it's considered a secret even by Naughty Dog themselves.

It's just that it's so tropey, the moment I know about the main gimmick of the game, escorting Ellie to someplace safe in a zombie-ravaged land, and the moment she joins Joel, it's really really really easy to infer that she's infected, unless you are really really ignorant about the cliches and tropes of end-of-world fiction, or heck, fiction in general.

It's really not a big deal at all.
oh i'm not saying one couldn't find out about it, but you have to figure most people only know about things via ads so if the ads never talk about something odds are most wouldn't know about it. unless it's a word of mouth viral type shit. Now this board isn't most people but that doesn't bring the number to 0% but maybe 30% wouldn't know/click on TLoU threads recently
 
Oct 27, 2017
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oh i'm not saying one couldn't find out about it, but you have to figure most people only know about things via ads so if the ads never talk about something odds are most wouldn't know about it. unless it's a word of mouth viral type shit. Now this board isn't most people but that doesn't bring the number to 0% but maybe 30% wouldn't know/click on TLoU threads recently

I am more surprised about the fact that Ellie is infected is considered like, such a HUGE thing. It's really not, especially since like I said, you can see it from tens of thousands miles away considering how really really really tropey and cliche the entire thing is.

It's like getting surprised that a dog dies in the end in a dog-centered movie. Or surprised that a black dude getting offed in a horror movie, haha.
 

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I am more surprised about the fact that Ellie is infected is considered like, such a HUGE thing. It's really not, especially since like I said, you can see it from tens of thousands miles away considering how really really really tropey and cliche the entire thing is.

It's like getting surprised that a dog dies in the end in a dog-centered movie. Or surprised that a black dude getting offed in a horror movie, haha.
Noone is considering it a huge thing though. It's more that people are particularly careful to avoid spoiling even the smallest things for others. That and a ton of people who don't ever watch anything with zombies in it even try out TLoU.
 

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I reported the thread last night requesting a thread title change to save more people like you from getting spoiled, but the mods didn't act on it :(



Ellie being infected has been in marketing materials?

It's not a fucking spoiler.

It's literally revealed within the first hour, maybe two hours, of the game.

The revelation isn't even that big, the game isn't about that, so stop complaining.

News flash, nobody is going to care about protecting "spoilers" for a half decade old game from a plot point that happens in the first 1/5th of the games story.
 

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It's not a fucking spoiler.

It's literally revealed within the first hour, maybe two hours, of the game.

The revelation isn't even that big, the game isn't about that, so stop complaining.

News flash, nobody is going to care about protecting "spoilers" for a half decade old game from a plot point that happens in the first 1/5th of the games story.
I wasn't spoiled here just so we're clear. It's my favourite game from last gen and I've already played it several times.

Other people in this thread evidently felt spoiled by it, which begs the question why it had to literally be in the thread title. You don't decide what others feel is a spoiler. Discuss it openly all you want inside a thread, but it's impossible to avoid reading a title.
 
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I wasn't spoiled here just so we're clear. It's my favourite game from last gen and I've already played it several times.

Other people in this thread evidently felt spoiled by it, which begs the question why it had to literally be in the thread title. You don't decide what others feel is a spoiler. Discuss it openly all you want inside a thread, but it's impossible to avoid reading a title.


If you played it multiple times you know that Anyone who thinks it's a spoiler they are in for one hell of a treat once they start playing.


It's rediculous. It's been 5 years. We're safely in that Aerith dies zone. It was part of the marketing for its launch and the director talks about actual spoiler stuff during interviews.