Nintendo: new NES games coming every month to NSO, list for October through December

NES is ok

SNES is god tier and that many RPGs on the go would be the killer.

Lufia
Breath of Fire
Final Fantasy
Earthbound
Chrono Trigger
Mario RPG
Terranigma
Gaia
Tales
Dragon Quest
Secret of Mana, Evermore


I can keep going...........add SNES and THEN it will be and insane value at $20

A real selling point would be every Nintendo 1st party game from NES-N64.

Third parties are added or swapped out, GameCube gets paid releases with early access to subscribers.

CHusson91 said:

Yikes.

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Yikes? Selection is much better than expected, titles not already on NES Classic, and showing promise for variety, pace of releases, and possible enhancements.

Megatron said:

I'm fine with it, personally. $20 is almost nothing, and I'm excited for the new games.

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Respectfully, I think people who point out that it's only $20 and cheaper than the services from other consoles are missing the point. One, you're getting much less, so of course it would be cheaper. Two, there was never going to be a situation where Nintendo debuts a bare-bones online service at the same price as the other console makers. The idea is to debut it at a low price that seems palatable and then gradually increase the price to be much closer to the other services.

I'll never be a fan of this rental style model :( This is no Virtual Console.

If they would release Blades of Steel, then it'd be good.

tulpa said:

Respectfully, I think people who point out that it's only $20 and cheaper than the services from other consoles are missing the point. One, you're getting much less, so of course it would be cheaper. Two, there was never going to be a situation where Nintendo debuts a bare-bones online service at the same price as the other console makers. The idea is to debut it at a low price that seems palatable and then gradually increase the price to be much closer to the other services.

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Until the other services continue to increase in price. Those other services aren't immune

Yo I am so down for some switch Tecmo Bowl. Let's go!

Braaier said:

Until the other services continue to increase in price. Those other services aren't immune

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So what? I never said the other services would remain at the same price forever. That's my entire point.

So SNES games in 2019?
and Mother 3 for E3?

I think that's a really good list for the first three months but releases need to continue at a very good pace and there needs to be SNES by the anniversary of NSO.

AtomicShroom said:

Stuck in legal licensing hell. Nintendo would have to pay rights to both the Tetris Company and Ubisoft, who currently holds the console rights. Not happening in a million years.

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Damn it, I love Tetris.
Dr. Mario it is, then.

legend166 said:

People just went insane over Nintendo not making enough NES Classics, and now they're offering way more games for $20 a year with added online play on a modern console and people are upset. I don't get it.

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No, this is just spin. They are removing services, not adding them. They are removing services and adding inferior versions that you have to pay for. They have removed virtual console and are replacing it with a paid subscription service with a much worse selection. They are removing free online and replacing it with a paid online service that has less features than the free online, since it doesn't support voice chat, a completely standard feature that was on Wii U, Wii, and the DS when Nintendo's online service was free.

No Urban Champion :(

tulpa said:

So what? I never said the other services would remain at the same price forever. That's my entire point.

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And my point is it's still relative

Braaier said:

And my point is it's still relative

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How is that a point?

Seeing the term periodic online check in without outrage is weird......anyway sign me up

tulpa said:

How is that a point?

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Huh. How is it not?

I miss Wii Nintendo, believe it or not.

"Periodic online check-in required." oh really, lol.

i hope i am fully downloading these though, like ps plus

Braaier said:

Huh. How is it not?

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It doesn't affect or contradict what I'm saying in any way.

nes games are so boring and dated

tulpa said:

It doesn't affect or contradict what I'm saying in any way.

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Your point is not great. You say it's cheaper because it offers less. Duh. You say the price will increase. So will other online services. So yeah. What's your point?

jett said:

I don't pay for either service, but at least you get semi-new, modern games and not 35 year-old 32KB roms .

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UsoEwin said:

Those games aren't 25+ years old and haven't been re-released 10 different times. NES games are Nintendos safe go to and are boring as hell now.

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You both are extremely delusional if you think those games are worth jack shit on average when NES Classics were causing online petitions because they sold out the first holiday season they were available.

Flambe said:

Hope when they add SNES it's either same price or you can choose between legacy platforms cause fuck paying more when I'm not gonna use the $20 NES games at all =p

But we will see I guess. Maybe, eventually.

Goddamnit Nintendo you've had how long to port games that have been emulated for decades, christ.

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Yea it'd be cool if it was $20 and pick a classic system. Extra consoles $10/year.

Durock said:

Four of those games alone would have cost $20 before and now you get all of those games plus what's coming in the future in addition to all of the other stuff. What are people complaining about? Lol

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Nintendo charging for an online service is going to bring up comparisons to competitor's services, which blow this out of the water. A library of 30 year old games doesn't cut it when the competition is giving out relatively new indies and even AAA titles on their services. Yes, those services are 3x the price but that price gap is inconsistent with the gap in services (XBL and PSN have party chat, communities, cloud saves for all games). Sony put Bloodborne, one of the best games of the current generation, on PS+, but for a third of the price Nintendo can only part with 30 year old ROMs?

And yes, at the prices Nintendo charges for NES games this is a bargain, but Nintendo also heavily overvalues NES games in a time when digital sales have drastically devalued video game prices. I can grab MGSV for $5 on Humble Bundle right now, which is also what Nintendo would charge me for Balloon Fight. Nintendo is free to charge what they want for their titles, but I'm free to think that their prices are absurd.

Braaier said:

Your point is not great. You say it's cheaper because it offers less. Duh. You say the price will increase. So will other online services. So yeah. What's your point?

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My point is that the lower price relative to other services won't last long, while the features gap certainly might. Unless you really believe that all console online services increase their prices at the same rate, and that there's no ceiling on pricing for something like PS+/XBL.

ThisOne said:

How anyone could be excited about this is beyond me. Just bring back the wii--style virtual console already.

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Why on earth would you want that when you can have access to ALL the games for mere pennies per day? Like at $20 for a year that averages out to like literally .5 cents per day.

Wait I just realized something, we have proof that a game can be in a collection and on NOS, River city ransom recently(or is soon) getting a complete collection on switch in japan

I think it's fantastic value for money.

• Only $20 (or like $3 if you split a family sub) for 12 months
• Access to the entire library of games no matter when you sub/re-sub, you will have access to everything.
• Online multi (yeah yeah, its the same P2P that PS4 games use without dedicated servers but it's a sad fact of life at this point)
• Automatic Save Backup
• More games added monthly at no additional cost (that we know of)

tulpa said:

My point is that the lower price relative to other services won't last long, while the features gap certainly might. Unless you really believe that all console online services increase their prices at the same rate, and that there's no ceiling on pricing for something like PS+/XBL.

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That's quite the negative speculation there. So the price for online will go up but features will not improve. All while the other services keep their pricing flat. Yeah ok. You go with that theory.

Could give a shit less about a drip feed of NES games after the initial batch.

That's shitty.

Couldn't even promise us SNES/64 games in the future at the end of that part kf the presentation

Other than that, the Direct was awesome

Christ, am i the only one being happy with this? For 20$ a year, a nice nes library, cloud save, and discount on game. Ice Hockey oh yeah!

Where's Joy Mech Fight though

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Couldn't even promise us SNES/64 games in the future at the end of that part kf the presentation

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It hasn't even launched yet, give them a chance. PS+ Didn't tell me what games I was getting in December 2020 when I signed up in 2014 either.

Honestly, online Tecmo Bowl is amazing.

Braaier said:

That's quite the negative speculation there. So the price for online will go up but features will not improve.

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Sorry, are you even reading my responses? Have other online services considerably increased their features while raising the price? What was the last major feature added when PS+ increased its price? Have Nintendo shown any sign of changing their mind on voice chat?

Braaier said:

All while the other services keep their pricing flat.

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Sorry, this is literally the opposite of what I said. At this point I can't help but think you're willfully misconstruing my words. I said that of course other services increase price, but that the price will not increase at the same rate and there is a ceiling on pricing for a console online service.

tulpa said:

Sorry, are you even reading my responses? Have other online services considerably increased their features while raising the price? What was the last major feature added when PS+ increased its price? Have Nintendo shown any sign of changing their mind on voice chat?

Sorry, this is literally the opposite of what I said. At this point I can't help but think you're willfully misconstruing my words. I said that of course other services increase price, but that the price will not increase at the same rate and there is a ceiling on pricing for a console online service.

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Again so you're speculating. There's some imaginary price ceiling and Nintendo will increase their price at a higher rate. Just pulling this out of your ass huh?

Really happy to see third party games being supported. Hopefully Nintendo stick to 3-4 games a month and not just drip feed 1 game a month next year.

I have a feeling that this is kind of a trial though and that in the future Nintendo will release a separate service which includes SNES, N64, GBA and Gamecube games. It would make business sense, include the NES games for free in their online service which gives the majority of people a chance to try their retro service and then in the future offer a separate service (for $10 a month for example) which includes a most of Nintendo's back catalogue.

Risq said:

Only $20

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For now.

Risq said:

Access to the entire library of games no matter when you sub/re-sub, you will have access to everything.

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With virtual console, you had access to the library of games you had purchased without having to maintain any subscription, and for a much wider library of games.

Risq said:

Online multi (yeah yeah, its the same P2P that PS4 games use without dedicated servers but it's a sad fact of life at this point)

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Yeah, you've actually taken apart this point yourself.

Risq said:

Automatic Save Backup (I don't think PS4's is automatic and you have to manually upload them??)

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No, you're wrong. PS4 has automatic save backup and Xbox does it for free. They also don't lock saves behind a paywall and allow you to do it manually, without disabling save backups in a large number of popular titles.

Risq said:

More games added monthly at no additional cost (that we know of)

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The other services have gradually increased their price. Why wouldn't Nintendo?

tulpa said:

With virtual console, you had access to the library of games you had purchased without having to maintain any subscription, and for a much wider library of games.

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Do you sub to Netflix or any other streaming service?

Not bad!

Anyone know how to pay for NSO through the eShop? Is is not available yet?

yuhr33 said:

Anyone know how to pay for NSO through the eShop? Is is not available yet?

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I think they added a subscription option to the menu, but it may not be visible just yet.

Braaier said:

Again so you're speculating

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You can call it speculation if you want, but it's based on clear evidence and demonstrated trends.

Braaier said:

There's some imaginary price ceiling

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Sorry, are you really not getting this? Do you think Sony would make any money if they charged $1000 a month for PS+? The ceiling is the point where you stop making money because less people are willing to pay for something that has become too expensive.

Braaier said:

Nintendo will increase their price at a higher rate

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I haven't said that. You assumed that every service would increase their price at the same rate. When has that ever happened?

Braaier said:

Just pulling this out of your ass huh?

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I would love to ask you that same question, actually. Everything you've said is a mixture of making up things I've never said and points based on no evidence or prior trends.

Risq said:

Do you sub to Netflix or any other streaming service?

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No, I don't. Even if I did, that wouldn't take away my ability to purchase the films I stream on Netflix and keep them in my library.

I'd be excited for this if I didn't have an NES Classic

tulpa said:

No, I don't. Even if I did, that wouldn't take away my ability to purchase the films I stream on Netflix and keep them in my library.

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And you can still buy these games? Nobody is stopping you from logging onto the Wii U VC with a "much wider library of games" (your words) or buying them physically like you can with movies.

I said in the original announcement and I'll say it again: NES games as freebies is lame as hell. What am I getting out of playing 30 year old games? I'll play it for like 5 minutes and never touch it again. I hope they eventually get to GameCube games at the very least.

HF2014 said:

Christ, am i the only one being happy with this? For 20$ a year, a nice nes library, cloud save, and discount on game. Ice Hockey oh yeah!

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I'm happy, high five! Especially with third party games confirmed

Musubi said:

Why on earth would you want that when you can have access to ALL the games for mere pennies per day? Like at $20 for a year that averages out to like literally .5 cents per day.

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See numerous other posts in this thread for why I think it's a very boring and unexciting idea (at least in its current state). I'd rather they release a huge amount of games and let me choose what I want to buy rather than drip feed garbage that has been released dozens of times already.