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Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
Golden Sun 3DS is evej better! Metric fucktons of salt AND I can play it soon instead of waiting to save ip money for a Switch. Win win baby.
 

Boiled Goose

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,999
It´s surprising how many Switch games have been announced/hihgly rumoured and we don´t know anything about at all:

- Bayonetta 3
- Metroid Prime 4
- Pikmin 4
- New Retro Studio Game
- Fire Emblem Three Houses (I know, we have the E3 trailer, but that´s all the information and it´s been almost two years since its announcement).

Yoshi.
Smt 5
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
I'm still disappointed Otter is taking votes from "Yes, it's time" for AC. It's like watching a political election.
 

Boiled Goose

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,999
I really don't get the "no more 3DS games, the Switch is out now!!" thing.

Like, it's just really weird to imagine "UGH, whaddaya mean Kirby's Adventure is on that stupid old thing. I have a SUPER Nintendo now!" or "Persona 4? More like Persona POOR. Get with the times Atlus, PS2 is old news." The idea that systems should just stop getting games the second their successor releases is so weird.



Did all the JRPG fans that had 3DSes for the likes of Bravely and Dragon Quest and SMT just throw them out when the Switch came out or something?

It's really hard for me to game on 3ds now.
Just is.
 

Ehoavash

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 28, 2017
7,238
Hm do people still interest on our long dorm ip? Well let's test it out, rerelease it on our dead system. So these fuckers can bug off and stop asking us

Fuck the 3ds
 

Le Dude

Member
May 16, 2018
4,709
USA
A relatively small group of "Nintendo fans" on the internet don't make the difference. Wonderful 101 selling 10.000 copies or 15.000 doesn't move the needle. also: Supporting games with arguably bad or average quality in the naive hope that the next entry will magically be great, anybody should accept.

My point is that even good games in series that people often clamor for don't sell. There's really no reason to expect that any fan demanded games would be huge sellers. Even Mother 3, a Mother collection, or even the entire Mother trilogy completely remade from the ground up likely wouldn't be a huge hit.

Nintendo could release another Golden Sun, but it likely wouldn't sell very well and there's a good chance the people clamoring for another would just complain about it even if it was a solid game. Alternatively they can release another Mario game and those same people will complain all Nintendo releases is Mario, but at least it would sell millions of copies. I don't blame them for focusing on their main franchises and regulated a bunch of fan favorites to B-status.
 

legend166

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,113
I just have to think they have more to announce. The great hope with the Switch was they'd be combining all their software development pipelines into one platform so you'd get a pretty constant stream of Nintendo first and second party releases. That really hasn't been the case in 2018. In terms of new Nintendo retail releases we've got:

Kirby Star Allies
Mario Tennis Aces
Pokemon Let's Go
Smash
XBC2: Torna
Labo

So like...5.5 games and a half game/half STEM software thingy.

Compare that to say, 2013 where you're got something like 15 new retail releases across Wii U and 3DS. Now obviously your standard Switch game is going to need more resources to develop than your standard 3DS game so it's not directly comparable, but I don't see how Nintendo can't be at least putting out 10 new retail releases a year on the Switch from 2019. That's mean to be the whole advantage of the hybrid platform. Unless I'm just completely underestimating how many people they've been putting on individual games now.
 

Phil Good

Member
Apr 25, 2018
342
I just have to think they have more to announce. The great hope with the Switch was they'd be combining all their software development pipelines into one platform so you'd get a pretty constant stream of Nintendo first and second party releases. That really hasn't been the case in 2018. In terms of new Nintendo retail releases we've got:

Kirby Star Allies
Mario Tennis Aces
Pokemon Let's Go
Smash
XBC2: Torna
Labo

So like...5.5 games and a half game/half STEM software thingy.

Compare that to say, 2013 where you're got something like 15 new retail releases across Wii U and 3DS. Now obviously your standard Switch game is going to need more resources to develop than your standard 3DS game so it's not directly comparable, but I don't see how Nintendo can't be at least putting out 10 new retail releases a year on the Switch from 2019. That's mean to be the whole advantage of the hybrid platform. Unless I'm just completely underestimating how many people they've been putting on individual games now.

I wholeheartedly agree and I've been thinking the exact same for a long while. They have sort of twice the amount of developers but so far it has led to no results.
 

delete12345

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 17, 2017
19,690
Boston, MA
It´s surprising how many Switch games have been announced/hihgly rumoured and we don´t know anything about at all:

- Bayonetta 3
- Metroid Prime 4
- Pikmin 4
- New Retro Studio Game
- Fire Emblem Three Houses (I know, we have the E3 trailer, but that´s all the information and it´s been almost two years since its announcement).
 
Mar 23, 2018
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The Direct is scheduled to be 35 minutes long.

That means there will be 35 individual megatons.

1. Bully HD remake
2. FFVIIR is available ... now on the eShop!
3. Snake amiibo is life-size. Will smoke in your house.
4. Isabelle announced as a fighter in Smash and as a racer in ...
5. F-Zero FX. A cross between F-Zero and Stunt Race FX.
6. Zelda: Twilight Wind Waker HD announced
7. Goku is unveiled as a new fighter in Dragon Ball FighterZ
8. Mother 3 HD de-make
9. Luigi's Mansion: Deceased Estate
10. Super Mario Sunshine with new playable Master Chief character
11. Waluigi is revealed to be Master Hand
12. Splatoon 3: Splatoon 2 announcement
13. Final Fantasy II port
14. Metroid Prime 2: Echoes port. Other games are absent.
15. NSO SNES games available at launch but they're all in Japanese only. Oops.
16. Dragon Quest Loto collection with new MIDI soundtrack.
17. New Animal Crossing announcement. Includes online component where you are encouraged to destroy other towns.
18. Double Dare: HD
19. Fire Emblem Warriors 2: Hyrule Warriors
20. New Captain Toad game featuring Chibi-Robo
21. Golden Sun Collection. Only includes the DS game.
22. Wavebird being rereleased. Works like a pro controller
23. Eternal Dorkness X Life Is Strange crossover title revealed
24. Super Ghouls and Ghosts alarm clock for Switch. You can set it to wake you up and it won't stop until you beat the first level.
25. NSO IS AVAILABLE NOW!
26. NSO has been delayed to September 18th. Oops.
27. Reggie announced for Smash as a special guest referee.
28. Diablo IV exclusive to Switch
29. God of War II 2020 exclusive to Switch
30. Minecraft 2 exclusive to Switch
31. Inverted castle from SotN amiibo
32. Super Mario Maker will now include 3D assets, scheduled for Q2 2019
33. Geno for Smash
34. Isaac for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC Pack 1
35. ???

Let me try one.

1. Skyward Sword HD remake
2. Melee HD is available ... now on the eShop!
3. Tharja amiibo is life-size.
4. Geno announced as a fighter in Smash and as a racer in ...
5. F-Zero anime game #3.
6. Zelda: Phantom Hourglass HD announced
7. Goku is unveiled as a new fighter in Blazblue
8. Mother 3 with remastered 64 assets announced
9. Waluigi's Mansion: Darker Moon
10. Metroid Prime 4 with Master Chief guest star
11. Sakurai is revealed to be Master Hand
12. Splatoon 3: with playable jellies
13. Zelda II port
14. Metroid Prime Pinball port
15. PSO2 with American servers
16. Dragon Ball Z Legacy of Goku HD remake
17. New Animal Crossing announcement. Happy Home Designer 2.
18. Battletoads: Double Dragon HD
19. Wario Warriors featuring Booster
20. New Chibi-Robo game featuring Pikmin
21. Golden Sun Dark Dawn 2, now with two storylines and two cliffhangers
22. Wavebird XL, it works like an original Xbox controller
23. P.T. gets a port, it's perfect for the Switch
24. Game & Watch alarm clock for Switch. You can set it wake you up and it won't stop until you score 200 points.
25. NSO IS AVAILABLE IN A FEW DAYS!
26. Oops. It's available now.
27. Iwata announced for Smash as a special guest Spirit.
28. Overwatch 2 exclusive to Switch
29. Dawn of the New World 2 exclusive to Switch
30. Let it Die 2 exclusive to Switch
31. Hyrule Temple amiibo
32. Super Mario 64 Maker will include 2D assets, like in Odyssey
33. Master Chief for Smash
34. Elma for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe DLC Pack 1, with Rex and Pyra for DLC Pack 2
35. ???

1: Trace from Axiom Verge joins Smash. « Trace glitches the ga_-Mm§(eEE »
2: Bubsy 3D port for the Switch. d-Pad only and tank controls, to keep the feel of the original game. $59
3: Reggie finally reveal Metroid Prime 4: Amiibo Festival.
4: Bill Trinen appears for no reason. He's drinking water for a whole minute. Enjoy.
5: Luigi's Mansion 3 is coming for the New 3DS only.
6: Xenoblade X port for Switch is coming. The skells have been removed to add a bit of challenge. Also, Tatsu is now a forced party member and only his character can talk. Someone at Monolith have removed the Voice setting option in the Sound menu.
7: Persona 5 Dance Racing: A TellTale boring card game is coming.
8: Retro Studios closes its door, cancelling Donkey Kong Burning Ice and Cold Fire.
9: The 2019 core Pokémon RPG for the Switch is in fact a Gatcha game with lootboxes. Because that's exactly what people want, right ? Gotta Gatch'em all.
10: Factor 5 buys Electronic Arts and immediatly fire their entire staff, to keep the feel of the original EA.
11: Activision and 2K convince Belgium goverment to revert the lootboxes ban and becomes ever worse.
12: Nintendo add even worse lootboxes system to Animal Crossing Switch, because thoses in Pocket Camp weren't enough.
13: Miyamoto cancels Pikmin 4 and go work for Konami.

Hope you enjoyed this Nintendo Direct.

  1. Direct opens with a Zoom in to Reggie's face. He covers his mouth and seems to be in pain. Bill tries to give him some water but Reggie refuses and tells Bill to do the direct without him while he sees a doctor. Bill recommends him to see Dr. Mario for the Nintendo Switch, the first Online Game free with all Nintendo Online services. Reggie thanks Bill and gets inside the doctor's office.
  2. Bill shrugs and continues the direct. "While we wait for Reggie, let's talk about the new games and exciting news Nintendo has for you". Yoshi's Crafted World trailer, now with Labo support.
  3. Undertale Exclusive content, Ness, Lucas and Pokey as NPC's/Enemies, depending on your choices.
  4. Bayonetta 3 trailer, now featuring Dante from the Shin Megami Tensei series as a special guest.
  5. Speaking of SMT, new trailer for SMT5, now divided in two versions: Shin Megami Tensei: Shake It! Version and Shin Megami Tensei: Twist It! Version. Jack Bros and Alice are version exclusives.
  6. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe gets new DLC and a new version: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe GOLD! All characters now have precious metal versions, ready for Emerald Luigi and Diamond Baby Daisy?
  7. Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright 2: Mystery Dungeon is announced. It uses the Ace Attorney Investigations engine mixed with Dungeon Crawling elements. All NPC's have great cleavage and beady eyes.
  8. Xenoblade Chronicles X gets a port! Exclusive for New 3DS.
  9. Themes for the Switch are announced. $3.99 each. Folders are $0.99
  10. Fortnite gets Codename S.T.E.A.M. costumes. Why? I don't know.
  11. Metroid Prime 4 gets a single screenshoot of Samus in her powersuit, only difference: She has sunglasses over her visor. "Early 2019"
  12. Overwatch: Pocket Edition announced. Gameplay is the same but with cute chibi characters. Kawaii!
  13. Mario & Luigi: Bowser Inside Story get's a new trailer and new content, a brand new level know as "Bowser´s Constipation Confrontation" no idea what is going to be about, but Bill hints at it with the words "Hold it in for a bit longer" while winking.
  14. Pokemon Let's Go! Pikachu and Let's Go! Eevee! Switch special edition is detailed, turns out the pokeball controller included with the Switch is different: This one is actually painted as the GS Ball and comes with a "Special surprise"
  15. The Direct is interrupted for a bit because of the terrible pain noises coming out of the Doctor's Office, we can hear Reggie scream "Oh GOD please stop" and "I'm never eating Pikmin again. And yes, they are real kids" while Billy tries to speak over the noise of drills and thumps. Bill looks a bit embarrassed and presents the brand new Amiibo: Peach in a Nurse outfit, Walgreens exclusive. Turns out Nurse Peach is a playable character in the new Dr. Mario.
  16. Bill get's a call, is a french guy from Ubisoft. He is happy to announce Mario+Rabbids its getting even more DLC, this time they are adding Rayman from the Rabbids series as a playable character, he remarks he is a bit of an obscure characters, but hardcore fans will remember him and he is pretty cool I guess.
  17. Another call, this time from Rockstar. GTAV: Chinatown Wars HD is coming soon to the Nintendo Switch. "I hope it actually sells this time" He says before hanging up, Bill looks a bit flustered.
  18. Time for the Indie showcase! Wargroove its getting Andy from Advance Wars as a guest. Predictable choice.
  19. Golf Story gets a brand new world based on New Zealand and populated by Lord of The Rings Styled Characters.
  20. Papers Please gets a brand new sequel "First on Nintendo Switch". Titled Papers Pretty Please, the award winning gameplay now with a new Visual Novel inspired anime art-style. Get beautiful girls to join your glorious country!
  21. Indie showcase ends with a montage of games no one cares about: Doki Doki Literature Club, Frog Fractions 2, Five Nights at Freddie and many more games featured with epileptic speed.
  22. Bill let us know the Squid Research team would like to speak with us. It seems that Grizzco has revealed their nefarious plan: An experiment pitting inklings and octolings against each other in a cruel battle for survival. Splatoon 2: Batter Royale.
  23. Xenoblade 2 now can Zoom-in to the feet of the characters. Who asked for this?
  24. Paper Mario has a new game! In this new game, Paper Mario has to save the Cardboardy Kingdom with the help of Labo-inspired items. New companions, new RPG adventure and a battle system based on Labo functionality. Paper Mario: Bend Over to release in Spring 2019.
  25. We go back to Bill, who is now playing the brand new Animal Crossing game. He proceeds to reveal the brand new Animal Crossing amiibo: All your favorite animals now with Nurse Outfits and compatible in the brand new game Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival 2, Say AAAAAAAH! to release on November 23, 2018.
  26. The horrible sounds from the Doctor's Office cease. You can hear Dr. Mario say "You should be a-good now!" Door opens and we can see Reggie carefully caress his jaw and with a lollipop in his hand. Bill ask if he is ok. Camera zooms-in on Reggies mouth. Reggie smiles and we can see his perfect teeth, but wait! Something is written on them. The words carefully crafted in his teeth? "MOTHER 3". Screen fates to white, the main theme from Mother 3 can be heard far away in the background... Screen goes to black... "Welcome to Mother3 world"... the scene lingers for a moment, and then... Shadow the Hedgehog punches the screen. The screen is now playing the Mother 3 intro but takes a few steps back and we can see the actual Mother 3 game in the Final Destination Stage. That is right, Shadow is now fighting against Mother 3, the game. Splash Screen: "Mother 3: Localizes your Ass!". The trailer proceeds to showcase Mother 3's moveset as a playable fighter in Super Smash Brothers and he beats the crap of the just announced Shadow (Echo fighter, btw). Final Smash is Mother 3 bringing out the fan translation and leaving it there until it explodes in a cloud of indifference, causing damage to everyone near. The Super Smash Bros. Ultimate logo appears in the screen. The Direct is over.

I just wanna say I appreciate your work. Thank you for your service.

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This could become spicy.
 

GiantBreadbug

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,992
I just have to think they have more to announce. The great hope with the Switch was they'd be combining all their software development pipelines into one platform so you'd get a pretty constant stream of Nintendo first and second party releases. That really hasn't been the case in 2018. In terms of new Nintendo retail releases we've got:

Kirby Star Allies
Mario Tennis Aces
Pokemon Let's Go
Smash
XBC2: Torna
Labo

So like...5.5 games and a half game/half STEM software thingy.

Compare that to say, 2013 where you're got something like 15 new retail releases across Wii U and 3DS. Now obviously your standard Switch game is going to need more resources to develop than your standard 3DS game so it's not directly comparable, but I don't see how Nintendo can't be at least putting out 10 new retail releases a year on the Switch from 2019. That's mean to be the whole advantage of the hybrid platform. Unless I'm just completely underestimating how many people they've been putting on individual games now.

Smash Ultimate is like seven games in one tbh tho
 

Terraforce

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
18,917
I just have to think they have more to announce. The great hope with the Switch was they'd be combining all their software development pipelines into one platform so you'd get a pretty constant stream of Nintendo first and second party releases. That really hasn't been the case in 2018. In terms of new Nintendo retail releases we've got:

Kirby Star Allies
Mario Tennis Aces
Pokemon Let's Go
Smash
XBC2: Torna
Labo

So like...5.5 games and a half game/half STEM software thingy.

Compare that to say, 2013 where you're got something like 15 new retail releases across Wii U and 3DS. Now obviously your standard Switch game is going to need more resources to develop than your standard 3DS game so it's not directly comparable, but I don't see how Nintendo can't be at least putting out 10 new retail releases a year on the Switch from 2019. That's mean to be the whole advantage of the hybrid platform. Unless I'm just completely underestimating how many people they've been putting on individual games now.
You forgot Sushi Striker and Mario Party, and even if you only count Labo as 0.5 each that's 1.5 total. And ports still take development time, especially the ones that add a significant amount of content. Without ports they're at 8.5 (by your logic with the 0.5), and 12.5 including ports which isn't a bad number all things considered.

Plus you combined Wii U and 3DS while completely neglecting to mention all the 3DS games that released this year. Counting those we're at 17.5 which is over your comparison.
 

Finale Fireworker

Love each other or die trying.
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,712
United States
I really don't get the "no more 3DS games, the Switch is out now!!" thing.

Like, it's just really weird to imagine "UGH, whaddaya mean Kirby's Adventure is on that stupid old thing. I have a SUPER Nintendo now!" or "Persona 4? More like Persona POOR. Get with the times Atlus, PS2 is old news." The idea that systems should just stop getting games the second their successor releases is so weird.

Did all the JRPG fans that had 3DSes for the likes of Bravely and Dragon Quest and SMT just throw them out when the Switch came out or something?

I know that, in my case, I never liked playing games on the 3DS to begin with. I've had one since launch, and owned numerous iterations of the system, and have poured hundreds upon hundreds of hours into playing games on the device. I've been introduced to series I've never played before. I've revisited catalogs I missed and relished in the opportunity to experience them. I've wondered how some franchises will ever recover when the dual-screen format is abandoned. There is no denying that the 3DS has delivered me good times and good feelings.

But I hate the 3DS as a machine, I have always hated it. I thought it was old, hideous technology the day it was released and that feeling has only worsened and deepened over time. To see a game I love like Luigi's Mansion reduced to that resolution and that control scheme is ruinous to me. There is no game I have ever played on the 3DS that I didn't wish I was playing on a better system. Every game I have ever played on the device is categorically worse of an experience, in my opinion, because it's a 3DS game instead of something else. I often wishes the 3DS had failed in the beginning when it looked like it might so Nintendo would have had to release a superior handheld that did the catalog justice. But Nintendo is good at sticking it out and turning things around.

A lot of people, I think especially fellow Nintendo fans, will say that it's all about the games and the hardware doesn't matter. I get that. But I don't really feel that way myself. I think a system itself should feel good to play, too. I don't think the 3DS ever felt good to play and all it's games suffered for it. I think the 3DS is a poor stage on which some great games were played. It's like fine dining on a paper plate.

I was ready to leave the 3DS behind in, like 2015. So every year I've had to continue using it has been undesirable to me. It's a system I don't really consider replaced by the Switch, and it's a system I would prefer to see succeeded with a similar form factor, but settling for another 3DS experience sucks the joy right out of me. I consider it a bad experience.

So a game coming out on the 3DS in 2018 is just a worse version of the feeling I've always had: I wish these games were anywhere but here. Or, at least, I will never stop wishing the 3DS had been something other than it was.


My personal and dramatic grievances with the hardware aside, I do think that the convenience and cost factor of juggling several systems at a time is discouraging to most players. I really want to play Demon's Souls, but it's locked away on the PS3, which means it might as well not exist for me. I don't have the money or the space to own a system for every older game I want to play. This is why backward's compatibility, or at least remasters, are so important to me. At least the 3DS got that part right.

I'm glad other people enjoy playing games on their 3DS. I just never did.
 

Deleted member 3700

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I just had a quick glance on Switch Rumor Archive thread, I wonder if we will see some heavily-rumored titles (ie. NSMBU port and Star Fox Grand Prix) in the direct. In addition, Emily did mention Metroid Prime Trilogy in Feb. There are also some titles like Ridge Racer 8 and Call of Duty which were rumored before but never got confirmation.
 

Rand a. Thor

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
10,213
Greece
I just had a quick glance on Switch Rumor Archive thread, I wonder if we will see some heavily-rumored titles (ie. NSMBU port and Star Fox Grand Prix) in the direct. In addition, Emily did mention Metroid Prime Trilogy in Feb. There are also some titles like Ridge Racer 8 and Call of Duty which were rumored before but never got confirmation.
I mean, I want all the spicy rumors to be true but I doubt EVERYTHING will come to pass in this direct. That would put it above January Direct 2013 and then some, which is statistically imlossible to happen. Then again, this Direct is basically a Pre TGS event for a lot of Japanese Devs, and its the strongest TGS in years. So who knows, maybe this is September Direct 2018: The Return of January
 

HypedBulborb

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,921
I just had a quick glance on Switch Rumor Archive thread, I wonder if we will see some heavily-rumored titles (ie. NSMBU port and Star Fox Grand Prix) in the direct. In addition, Emily did mention Metroid Prime Trilogy in Feb. There are also some titles like Ridge Racer 8 and Call of Duty which were rumored before but never got confirmation.
That is actually very interesting, especially when you look at all the other mentions from Emily which were almost all correct.
 

LegendofLex

Member
Nov 20, 2017
5,466
I just have to think they have more to announce. The great hope with the Switch was they'd be combining all their software development pipelines into one platform so you'd get a pretty constant stream of Nintendo first and second party releases.

The part you're forgetting is they specifically said that their new dev pipeline would make *porting assets* easier, not just that it'd make developing new assets from scratch easier.

And when you count ports we're getting *way* more Nintendo-published games on Switch this year than we did last year--about twice as many.
 
Oct 27, 2017
9,792
Peru
I think the DS game just needs a few QoL fixes and a few minor changes to be a great game.

I recently played Dark Dawn and is actually better than I remember. Sure, it has severe flaws like the fact that you can't return to certain parts of the game after a certain point (which means there are completely missable Djinns) and bad pacing but it still introduced neat stuff like more varied weapons and crafting, different designs for the Djinns and being able to learn more about the story with certain key words.

A sequel that could build upon that and fix some of the other issues could be pretty great and is about time for the series to go full 3D, I don't even need a gigantic world like Xenoblade Chronicles 2 but GS should start implementing big scale dungeons.
 

P-MAC

Member
Nov 15, 2017
4,464
I've thought about two things and two things only this week. Nintendo Direct and Mac Miller. I think I'm going insane.
 

Spine Crawler

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,228
I just hope we will get some more info on the nintendo first party stuff. MP4, starfox grand prix, bayo 3, fire emblem three houses