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Kidgalactus

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It's not evidence, but there being no life on any planet of the hundreds of trillions that exist out there breaks the Copernican principle haaaaard. Shoot, there may be life aside from out own that exists in the solar system not to mention the wider galaxy and universe. So despite there not being much evidence one way or the other, I do think it's a little silly to assume no life exists anywhere outside of Earth.

You quote that principle, yet here you are making faith-based statements.

Like, I said, it's statistically impossible that we are the only planet in the universe with living things on it. The universe is basically infinite for all we know, there's basically no way we are the only living things out there. We can't get proof because as far as we know the next closest planet that could even sustain life could be billions of miles away and we couldn't even know if there are living beings there. We just know what the qualifications are (as far as we know) for life to develop and we've seen at least a few planets that seem like they could sustain life due to how similar they are to earth.

How are you going to extrapolate statistics from 1 data point, exactly?
 

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https://youtu.be/xS5k0eIkMQA

The speaker says it is orbits of the moon and while this seems likely, this seems like it could be more than just a coincidence.
This doesn't seem like a legit channel


If it's an asteroid we'll all be dead so it won't matter, but if it's a sunspot that cripples our electricity and technology for decades I'll be pissed that I can't brag about it.
 

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I see it differently, I see we are proof we exist not aliens, and the universe being infinite is something I am definitely not qualified to discuss lol, I know some people believe it is some people believe it isn't (the idea that it is infinite though seems to be the majority opinion though, my mind just can't grasp how something that is inifite can still be expanding, unless it really isn't expanding after all). By the way what do you think about the multiverse? Do you believe it?
You're basically quoting creation theory
 

Marano

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Yes, in a Universe with trillions of galaxies and even more planets, we are the chosen ones. Hard to believe that.
Truly we can look at it in two different ways, what has been known so far is that we are really the only ones in the universe, on the other hand, based on the amount of galaxies and planets out there, we can speculate and believe there's alien life out there, but that hasn't been shown yet, I guess some people like me would never believe in aliens until we saw them lol.
 
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You quote that principle, yet here you are making faith-based statements.



How are you going to extrapolate statistics from 1 data point, exactly?
I'm not gonna argue with you man, I'm just saying that we don't even know the size of the universe and saying that there's no chance other living being are out there seems silly to me, have a great night/day.
 

affeinvasion

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I'm assuming something having to deal with the mail given that the post office was closed. I've been to Sunspot a couple of times. There's not much up there and even the building the telescope is housed in is relatively small. The only other thing that would make sense for the FBI to be involved with is if they thought there was somebody up there trying to surveil the Air Force Base. You can see pretty much across the whole desert from up there.
 

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I don't think that's what I was saying, admitedly it's mostly based on science videos/debates I've watched on youtube, I must say I'm no scientist or even major in any scientific field and I didn't know this was what creation theory was, it's just what I believe.
Saying the fact that we exist means other life can't exist is equivalent to saying that the universe must revolve around the Earth because we are on Earth, or that all of existence must have started when humans appeared on Earth because that's when we were first aware of existence. It's just not logical.

Also, think of an Infinity expanding universe like this: the field in which the universe exists is Infinity, but the borders around the objects that exist in the universe are not. So these objects keep expanding away from each other on an infinite plane in infinite space.
 

Drksage

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Truly we can look at it in two different ways, what has been known so far is that we are really the only ones in the universe, on the other hand, based on the amount of galaxies and planets out there, we can speculate and believe there's alien life out there, but that hasn't been shown yet, I guess some people like me would never believe in aliens until we saw them lol.

multiple possibilities, maybe the aliens don'T want to be found by a more tHreatening civilization cause thEy could be more advanced than them, You know? or mAybe we Really arE the only civilization in tHe whole universE since all otheRs never existEd or possibly went extinct.
 

Pancracio17

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How are you going to extrapolate statistics from 1 data point, exactly?
You cant. The fermi equation makes a lot of assumptions.
The fermi paradox raises a good point, if there are, statistically, so many aliens out there, why havent we seen any of them yet?

I think aliens are likely, especially since life seemingly accelerates entropy and may be intrinsic to the universe, but its not guaranteed.
 

Marano

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Saying the fact that we exist means other life can't exist is equivalent to saying that the universe must revolve around the Earth because we are on Earth, or that all of existence must have started when humans appeared on Earth because that's when we were first aware of existence. It's just not logical.

Also, think of an Infinity expanding universe like this: the field in which the universe exists is Infinity, but the borders around the objects that exist in the universe are not. So these objects keep expanding away from each other on an infinite plane in infinite space.
No that's not quite what I meant, what I tried to say (and couldn't convey) was that we exist and that's fact, I didn't say the fact we exist must mean aliens can't exist, it's just what we know as fact at this point in time. And you gave me something to think about with the second part of your post, I'll have to look into that, oh well there's a lot of stuff on youtube.
 

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No that's not quite what I meant, what I tried to say (and couldn't convey) was that we exist and that's fact, I didn't say the fact we exist must mean aliens can't exist, it's just what we know as fact at this point in time. And you gave me something to think about with the second part of your post, I'll have to look into that, oh well there's a lot of stuff on youtube.
I wouldn't recommend YouTube lol

But if you accept the fact that humans were created through natural processes, you have to accept the fact that life exists elsewhere. There's nothing inherently unique to our planet that couldn't exist elsewhere in the universe, unless you bring something like a God into the equation.
 
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I think I have a picture of the facility that was evacuated.
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Why does that look like an old man/wizard's face leaning to the right?
 

B'z-chan

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Couple this with the iss leak and you got yourself a genuine conspiracy theory.

So what really is the reason for this? Anything solid or is it all just nothing?
 

Xe4

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You quote that principle, yet here you are making faith-based statements.
I'm not basing anything on faith. Wihth what we know about how life starts and the conditions for life that exist in the galaxy, I think it's silly to assume there is no life anywhere in the universe. Not talking about an advanced civilization or even multicellular life. But I think its exceedingly likely simple life came about on another planet or moon somewhere in the universe.

https://www.sciencealert.com/g2-geomagnetic-solar-storm-coronal-hole-earth-aurora-september-2018

I found othrr articles about this too. Looks like we might get hit with a CME so large that it will affect communications and power grids and governments want to prevent panic. Might be without power for a while so it's been real Era. See ya in a few months.
I don't think Science Alert is a very reliable source. Looking around on space news related sites (which I browse often) I can't find anything on a CME on that level (only one that led to slightly stronger auroras).
 
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I think it's much more likely that these stations are being hacked into than anything serious happening with the sun. If you all recall, there have been a lot of false weather alerts being sent out to phones in different parts of the US this year. All of the links to pages with deactivated webcams -- some of those have been offline for days at this point.
 

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I think it's much more likely that these stations are being hacked into than anything serious happening with the sun. If you all recall, there have been a lot of false weather alerts being sent out to phones in different parts of the US this year. All of the links to pages with deactivated webcams -- some of those have been offline for days at this point.

You do realize that this station has been evacuated for days too right? :p
 

Ether_Snake

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It takes a few minutes to reach us, up to five days for less powerful ones.

Scientists put the odds at 50% that we'll be hit by a catastrophic CME within the next few decades.
 
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I had a chat with a friend and when the topic of aliens came up I asked "what if aliens have been here the whole time? What if they've been encouraging climate change by posing as humans in charge of fossil fuel companies and agribusiness. What if they want us to kill ourselves and when we're extinct, they take over. Because that's a lot more reasonable than them coming down guns blazing trying to kill us one by one like in the movies"

but with climate change the aliens risk doing severe, irreparable damage to the damage then there goes their investment. with their advance military tech they can just kill us cleaner and keep the environment safe.
 

Zomba13

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but with climate change the aliens risk doing severe, irreparable damage to the damage then there goes their investment. with their advance military tech they can just kill us cleaner and keep the environment safe.
What if they are terraforming? They need higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere to breathe so they pose as humans in positions of power to try and dump as much CO2 into the air as possible. Obviously, the ones in the human suits have a breathing apparatus or the humans are just robots remote controlled via VR/AR tech far superior to our Occulus and Vives.
 

GestaltGaz

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Sure do. And one of the stations in those links has been offline for months.
I was led to those links through the financial blog site zero hedge. After looking more closely, zero hedge seems to be conspiratorial and controversial, pro-russia leaning and right-leaning.

So I would probably take the Webcam outages with a big grain of salt.

I think the closure has to do with this:
So the FBI evacuated the Sunspot Observatory in New Mexico and it's definitely aliens
 

Reven

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Could be something to do with the Air Forces X37B. Maybe they are gonna do something classified that would have been visible at the observatory. Though, with the post office being closed too it's probably something terrorism related.
 

Ether_Snake

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The fact that the only site I could find talkig about a major CME coming our way on sept 11 was the dailymail and some quackpot site makes me think this is some high-level trolling to induce some panic, and it either failed or isn't over yet, if it's anything at all.
 

nilbog

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According to this random youtube guy, the objects are a different size.

I find that interesting, if nothing else.

 

Temp_User

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This was the last thing the telescopes in the National Solar Observatory picked-up before it was closed down:
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Taki

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I hope that this is something real crazy