I really don't get these character updates. Those 20 secs character videos are up since the E3 direct.
I hate Empoleon. I hate most steel types but Empoleon is all my least favorite things combined into a Pokemon.I'm still holding out for Flygon as a Charizard Echo. Flygon deserves justice after being cheated out of a Mega Evolution.
This is an objectively awful take. What, do you hate Venusaur, Feraligatr, Sceptile, & Empoleon, too? Besides, I thought we all agreed Torterra was the worst starter?
This is an objectively awful take. What, do you hate Venusaur, Feraligatr, Sceptile, & Empoleon, too? Besides, I thought we all agreed Torterra was the worst starter?
He's obsessed with an anime targeted at young girls, fucking flips out at the possibility of missing his chance to get in line for hot new anime merchandise, wears anime T-shirts everywhere he goes, and his Japanese voice actor voices him as a loud, brash, obnoxious American that happens to be fluent in Japanese. The weirdest he gets is with an admiration of Mamori (an elementary schooler), though it's in no way lecherous and is more idol worship. (If anyone suggested anything lecherous about her, he'd honestly be the first person to both defend Mamori and probably punch whoever made the comment in the face.)
They really should have made them private to at least give the audience something to expect.I really don't get these character updates. Those 20 secs character videos are up since the E3 direct.
You'll probably be able to attack him from behind at certain points in the match, such as right after dodging his Tatsumaki.Hey, I just thought of something, if Ryu never turns his back on his opponent in a one on one battle, does that mean Robin's Nosferatu and Shulk's Back Slash can never be their most effective against him?
Inceneroar has a bigger crowd of horny fans. Way bigger...It's an easy bet that there's a crowd out there that sees Greninja as a sex machine.
If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
MarioIf Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
I feel like Yoshi got into 64 more for filling a quota than anything elsethe original roster is close to perfect. Puffs kind of more irrelevant now but they used kirbys assets
Don't mean to get all fact-checked here, but I do have some points against Bandanna Waddle Dee, in particular about Kirby representation in general and it's relationship with Sakurai's career. Here's some points for why I think he is unlikely to be a new fighter:
1) His current iteration as a Kirby fourth friend does not match Sakurai's design. Unlike Kirby himself, Metaknight and obviously Dedede, Bandanna Waddle Dee appeared as an enemy in earlier (read: Super Star and GBA) games and his more recent depiction as an ally that was created much after Sakurai quit HAL Labs. People tend to consider Sakurai overzealous over his own OCs specially after Dark Pit got in (which further suggests he may opt for Viridi instead of Medusa as a Palutena Echo), but somehow they forget this entirely when talking about Kirby?
2) Speaking of Sakurai, if he ever holds a grudge after leaving HAL, which I believe he does considering Kirby is still his most popular creation, then he's very likely to ignore everything past Kirby Air Ride, which wouldn't be surprising if we consider pretty much every Kirby stage, fighter and Assist Trophy hails from pre-Crystal Shards era. Not even poor Adeleine was given at least a regular trophy treatment, much less an AT spot. Besides that, stuff like post-KAR music is predictable to exist, and Kirby's and Dedede's new Final Smashes obviously feels needless and just kinda of an advertisement compared to their actual moveset and stage origins.
3) Before the N64, Kirby had several other sidekicks alongside Dedede and Metaknight to serve as actual secondary characters that doesn't feel as "Blue Toad" as Bandanna Waddle Dee does both in our current perspective as well as possibly Sakurai's. Gooey, for instance, is a candidate as he matches the general era Sakurai tends to draw inspiration from, even though Dream Land 2/3 material seems absent from Smash aswell (which further suggests the kind of grudge he holds with how Nintendo handled Kirby sequels).
4) Besides Gooey and actual Player-2 secondary protagonists, there's plenty of known enemies that are much more prominent to Kirby lore as Helpers than Bandanna Dee, including the already-AT Knuckle Joe, but also characters like Blade Knight (as a possible Meta Knight echo), Sir Kibble and Gim. I'm not saying these are more popular than Bandanna Dee, but they match better the (very restrict) source material Sakurai seems to tend to draw inspiration from when adding Kirby content in Smash. If you also consider popular mini-bosses, Bonkers (as a possible Dedede echo), Chef Kawasaki, Paint Roller, Bugzzy and Dyna Blade all seem very doable as heavyweights. Speaking of bosses, I also believe that Lololo and Lalala shpuld get some sort of reference somehow, maybe not necessarily as playable fighters but at least in AT form.
I hate Empoleon. I hate most steel types but Empoleon is all my least favorite things combined into a Pokemon.
I'm debating whether or not Marth would get in.If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
Include Lucina insteadI'm debating whether or not Marth would get in.
Because FE is huge now, but it's only huge in part because of Smash...
FE is huge because of Awakening. FE had very middling sales in the decade after Marth appeared in Smash.I'm debating whether or not Marth would get in.
Because FE is huge now, but it's only huge in part because of Smash...
Would FE Awakening exist if Smash was a new IP?
If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
I think Luigi is more likely to be in the game than Bowser. Not only is his skeleton extremely similar to Mario, he has been only skipped two of the mainline Mario games.I'm gonna assume you mean original 8? Smash 64 had 12 total, including the hidden 4.
1. Mario
2. Link
3. Pikachu
4. Donkey Kong
5. Kirby
6. Villager
7. Inkling
8. Marth
Hidden:
9. Samus
10. Olimar
11. Bowser
12. Zelda
MarioIf Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
Similarly, Captain Falcon is the face of Smash Bros., but he certainly wouldn't get in in the first 12 nowadays without that history.I'm debating whether or not Marth would get in.
Because FE is huge now, but it's only huge in part because of Smash...
Obscurity?I don't see Zeraora getting added even if the timelines matched up. It's a Pokemon that's going to quickly fade into obscurity because:
- It's tied to an event not everyone will get
- That event is an event only for the 'director's cut' version/s of Gen 7 that sold half as much as the original releases (still a lot, but less than a lot of games in the series)
- IIIRC it wasn't even released until the next Pokemon games had already been announced, and it was just put out there without much fanfare
Yep. Marth and Roy certainly helped Nintendo consider localizing the series, but that entire era of sales was a decline. And Shadow Dragon bombed so hard it almost killed the series in the west.FE is huge because of Awakening. FE had very middling sales in the decade after Marth appeared in Smash.
Okay, Brock has finally affected me.I hate Empoleon. I hate most steel types but Empoleon is all my least favorite things combined into a Pokemon.
Mario, Kirby, Link, Samus, Pikachu, DK, Villager, Pikachu, Inkling, Sonic, Pac-Man, Pokemon Trainer, Bowser.If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
I hate Goku. I hate most anime types but Goku is all my least favourite things combined into a character.I hate Empoleon. I hate most steel types but Empoleon is all my least favorite things combined into a Pokemon.
That was a margin call. But for deep cut Smash 64 original 12 characters I had to pick Ness.Everyone not having Cpt Falcon in the starting roster make me sad. The greatest completely made up moveset and over the top cornyness.
If smash was invented today Captain Falcon would be a no-one TBHEveryone not having Cpt Falcon in the starting roster make me sad. The greatest completely made up moveset and over the top cornyness.
That was a margin call. But for deep cut Smash 64 original 12 characters I had to pick Ness.
If smash was invented today Captain Falcon would be a no-one TBH
If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
Besides, I thought we all agreed Torterra was the worst starter?
I've been looking at Lady Bow sideways for a little while. I think s/he has had some inside info all this time. Lady Bow is what will have me holding out for Skull Kid.
Mewtwo was the villain of the first Pokémon movie and the final final boss of the first game. Saying Incineroar is more of a villain for Pokémon than Mewtwo is the real stretch.You may joke, but that's honestly why I think Inciniroar has a better chance at getting in over other Pokémon. It's clear by now that Smash Ultimate has a heroes vs. villains theme, and Pokémon doesn't exactly have a "villain" rep yet that can work as a fighter (Mewtwo coooould fill the role, but that's a bit of a stretch)
Oh, geez. Given just the known circumstances of his departure from Intelligent Systems, it seems Kaga burned every bridge he could set a match on before he left. He wasn't even mentioned in a book on the history of the series released for FE's 25th anniversary.It's still incredible to me that Shozou Kaga Fire Emblem only has one rep while Awakening alone has three. You would think the creator of the series would have some clout in these decisions, but I guess there's too much ill will between him and Nintendo for that to happen.
I hate Goku. I hate most anime types but Goku is all my least favourite things combined into a character.
Everyone not having Cpt Falcon in the starting roster make me sad. The greatest completely made up moveset and over the top cornyness.
True, but if I had to live in a world without Earthbound or F-Zero, I've got to say I'd pick a world without F-Zero.Could say the same about Ness, but this is a personal list right?
True, but if I had to live in a world without Earthbound or F-Zero, I've got to say I'd pick a world without F-Zero.
Base roster:If Smash was making its debut this year, who'd ya'll have for your original 12 and secret 4?
That's a really good point, who knows where the FE franchise would have ended up without SmashI'm debating whether or not Marth would get in.
Because FE is huge now, but it's only huge in part because of Smash...