Apple Announces iPhone Event for September 12

Deleted member 5666 · Sep 12, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
It's a mistake for them to drop the plus line.

Anyone with a 7+ or 8+ is just not going to upgrade. You lose the second camera. Lame.

Also no touch id or headphone jack is still ridiculous.

You don't lose the second camera though. They aren't removing it from the new phones. The 6.1 phone is not the successor to the plus, the 6.5 inch one is.

peppermints said:
You're saying the 6.1 inch has a worse screen than my 7+? Lol, no thanks.

The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

Ashhong · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
Apples offical name for it is "ten" not "x" so I doubt it. It will be the "Ten S Max" or whatever. All this max stuff is really dumb so I am hoping that is not true.

Ah shit. I swear I read that it was officially iPhone 10. XS and XR is stupid now.

Fliesen · Sep 12, 2018

peppermints said:
You're saying the 6.1 inch has a worse screen than my 7+? Lol, no thanks.

they're saying it has a "been" screen, which could be "better" or "bigger". The former, we don't know, as there haven't been any reviews yet :P

Infinity Times Two · Sep 12, 2018

Stiltzkin said:

I will call it the iPhone ten ess ma-ten. Fuck everything.

CelestialAtom · Sep 12, 2018

I'm really hoping the 2mm increase for the Apple Watch is true, as I will be all over that 44mm, baby!

jts · Sep 12, 2018

Anthony Mooch said:
Wait the cheapest iPhone is bigger than the X lol why

The price is not by the pound.

Deleted member 5666 · Sep 12, 2018

I am confused why people are still thinking the 6.1 phone is the succsor to the 8/8 Plus.

6.1 inch is their "budget" phone. The main high end phones are the the 5.8 and 6.5 inch ones.

Deleted member 13364 · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

There is no way it's meant to be a successor to the SE. It's going to be double the price and double the size of the SE.
It's going to be really interesting to see how they position it, because it makes no sense to me at the moment.

peppermints · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
You don't lose the second camera though. They aren't removing it from the new phones. The 6.1 phone is not the successor to the plus, the 6.5 inch one is.

The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

I understand that, but they're rumored to be charging more than what I paid for my 7+ for a worse screen. No thanks.

Daygon · Sep 12, 2018

Uno Venova said:
Their naming schemes fell off a fucking cliff.

Can't wait for Apple to call an iPhone "The iPhone X: Super Sand Legend edition".

Fliesen · Sep 12, 2018

peppermints said:
I understand that, but they're rumored to be charging more than what I paid for my 7+ for a worse screen. No thanks.

there is ... less than zero information on the screen quality of the LCD iPhone. (cmiiw)
It's likely worse than the X, because it's not an OLED screen.

Deleted member 17092 · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
You don't lose the second camera though. They aren't removing it from the new phones. The 6.1 phone is not the successor to the plus, the 6.5 inch one is.

The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

Yeah but that's going to cost a grand or more. Just saying, you'll see most 7+ and 8+ owners holding out this gen.

Kotze282 · Sep 12, 2018

When is this starting?

Deleted member 5666 · Sep 12, 2018

The names are TERRIBLE if they are true but it can be summed up as:

6.1 Inch Phone (Xr, XC, etc): Is the new "budget" phone. Cheaper than mainline, worse tech.
5.8 inch Phone (Xs): Main phone. Successor to what the non-Plus phones and last years X were in one line.
6.5 inch Phone (Xs Max, Xs Plus, etc): Successor to what the old Plus line was.

ZOONAMI said:
Yeah but that's going to cost a grand or more. Just saying, you'll see most 7+ and 8+ owners holding out this gen.

No way the 6.1 inch phone costs a grand. No chance.

BlastProcessing · Sep 12, 2018

Is Apple going with these names to help them sell phones in China? These names certainly make the phones seem like they are from a Chinese company.

Deleted member 13364 · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
The names are TERRIBLE if they are true but it can be summed up as:

6.1 Inch Phone (Xr, XC, etc): Is the new "budget" phone. Cheaper than mainline, worse tech.
5.8 inch Phone (Xs): Main phone. Successor to what the non-Plus phones and last years X were in one line.
6.5 inch Phone (Xs Max, Xs Plus, etc): Successor to what the old Plus line was.

This is only going to make sense if they price the Xs much closer to the 8. There is no indication of that happening.

iFirez · Sep 12, 2018

It's a damn shame that it doesn't look like we're ever going to get finger print sensors back. I really need a new iPhone though so hopefully what they show in a few hours is really good. Also if we get a bezelless iPad Pro at some point annoyed this year, I'm all in Apple, ya hear me, DO IT!

Deleted member 9479 · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
Why? It makes sense.

Cheaper iPhone is for overseas market where contracts aren't common. Overseas markets have little to no interest in small phones, especially in China. It's why the SE was scrapped. That market want cheaper big phones, not cheaper smaller phones.

Did I miss something? I thought contracts weren't common here either anymore.

So, is the argument that there is no substantial market here for smaller phones? The market is driven almost entirely by larger $1000 phones?

I'm getting old, shit.

5.8" is already pushing it for me. Having to pay more for a smaller screen grates.

mikehaggar · Sep 12, 2018

I'm really surprised they are doubling down on the X design/aesthetic (the notch). It seemed the response to it was lukewarm. I don't normally pay too much attention to these events, but I have a 7 Plus, so I'll upgrade either this fall or next fall. Based on the rumors/leaks, I'll probably wait until next year in hopes they come out with something I'm a little more excited about. My 7 Plus still works perfectly so no issues there.

TetraGenesis · Sep 12, 2018

Kotze282 said:
When is this starting?

10am PDT, I believe.

Batatina · Sep 12, 2018

I know I'll get the Max and the new Apple Watch (which will be my first). But how bad I want them is what truly hangs in the balance.

Infinity Times Two · Sep 12, 2018

mikehaggar said:
I'm really surprised they are doubling down on the X design/aesthetic (the notch). It seemed the response to it was lukewarm.

People complaining on the internet, and I'll venture a guess and say most of them weren't gonna buy it anyway. It still sold like hotcakes.

MrKlaw · Sep 12, 2018

mikehaggar said:
I'm really surprised they are doubling down on the X design/aesthetic (the notch). It seemed the response to it was lukewarm. I don't normally pay too much attention to these events, but I have a 7 Plus, so I'll upgrade either this fall or next fall. Based on the rumors/leaks, I'll probably wait until next year in hopes they come out with something I'm a little more excited about. My 7 Plus still works perfectly so no issues there.

almost everyone I've heard comments from that have owned an X either like or at least have no specific negative thoughts about the notch. I would rather have the notch than have more of the screen arbitrarily locked off for no real reason.

It might shrink a little but I doubt it'll disappear anytime soon. Cameras under screens is a nice idea but is it actually practical?

Deleted member 8901 · Sep 12, 2018

Yeah, the notch is fine. The XS MAX, XR naming (if true) is the real tragedy.

Laserdisk · Sep 12, 2018

Stiltzkin said:

Deleted member 17092 · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
The names are TERRIBLE if they are true but it can be summed up as:

6.1 Inch Phone (Xr, XC, etc): Is the new "budget" phone. Cheaper than mainline, worse tech.
5.8 inch Phone (Xs): Main phone. Successor to what the non-Plus phones and last years X were in one line.
6.5 inch Phone (Xs Max, Xs Plus, etc): Successor to what the old Plus line was.

No way the 6.1 inch phone costs a grand. No chance.

So the 6.1 is not the plus successor but now it is???

You are downgrading imo if you go from a 7/8+ to a 6.1 is what I'm saying.

Fliesen · Sep 12, 2018

Infinity Times Two said:
People complaining on the internet, and I'll venture a guess and say most of them weren't gonna buy it anyway. It still sold like hotcakes.

Yup, it's very likely that this will become Apple's strongest quarter ever.
(Mainly because the average price of each device sold goes up because they have beasts like a 512 gig iPhone XS Max, which will be around ... $1.500?)

MrKlaw · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
You don't lose the second camera though. They aren't removing it from the new phones. The 6.1 phone is not the successor to the plus, the 6.5 inch one is.

The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

we're full on nutsville if we're conditioned to think of a possibly $800 phone as the 'budget' option. Or that they'll use a year old CPU to keep the cost down. Apple have ramped the ASP up significantly over the years, we need to stop enabling it. Yes the Xr (?) will have a folded screen to have small bezels. Yes it'll have face ID. So what? That should have had time to mature now so the costs shouldn't be as high. And a much lower resolution LCD display and probably a single lens camera is fine for around the price of the current 8 as a straight replacement.

That isn't a budget phone - thats their mainstream phone and the Xs/Max are still premium offerings.

Deleted member 5666 · Sep 12, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
So the 6.1 is not the plus successor but now it is???

You are downgrading imo if you go from a 7/8+ to a 6.1 is what I'm saying.

No that is exactly what I am saying. The 6.1 inch one is not the successor to the Plus. It's the new budget phone. The 6.5 inch Xs is the successor the plus.

MrKlaw said:
we're full on nutsville if we're conditioned to think of a possibly $800 phone as the 'budget' option. Or that they'll use a year old CPU to keep the cost down. Apple have ramped the ASP up significantly over the years, we need to stop enabling it. Yes the Xr (?) will have a folded screen to have small bezels. Yes it'll have face ID. So what? That should have had time to mature now so the costs shouldn't be as high. And a much lower resolution LCD display and probably a single lens camera is fine for around the price of the current 8 as a straight replacement.

That isn't a budget phone - thats their mainstream phone and the Xs/Max are still premium offerings.

I use "budget" in quotes because I agree its silly to call it cheap but thats how Apple seems to be treating it.

Deleted member 17092 · Sep 12, 2018

Faiz said:
Did I miss something? I thought contracts weren't common here either anymore.

So, is the argument that there is no substantial market here for smaller phones? The market is driven almost entirely by larger $1000 phones?

I'm getting old, shit.

5.8" is already pushing it for me. Having to pay more for a smaller screen grates.

Just get a Sony Xperia compact. Newest version is under $500. Don't understand you folks who can't switch between apple and Android. I do it every six months typically with Jod. Probably sitting this apple round out though, honestly probably indefinitely if they never bring touch id back.

Deleted member 9479 · Sep 12, 2018

MrKlaw said:
That isn't a budget phone - thats their mainstream phone and the Xs/Max are still premium offerings.

Yeah, I'm still inclined to think this way. If it came out with last year's A11 at a price lower than last year's 8 I would agree to considering it the "budget" offer. Otherwise it's the mainline phone.

Now granted, depending on which price rumors pan out, a lower price than the 8 is possible. Still not sure I would consider it a "budget" model on the order of the SE at the lowest rumored price of $600.

Cheebo said:
I use "budget" in quotes because I agree its silly to call it cheap but thats how Apple seems to be treating it.

Fair.

jts · Sep 12, 2018

Not only the competition is following the notch like there's no tomorrow, also in advertising companies love to show the shape of the iPhone X. With their app or website or game or whatever.

newline · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
No that is exactly what I am saying. The 6.1 inch one is not the successor to the Plus. It's the new budget phone. The 6.5 inch Xs is the successor the plus.

I use "budget" in quotes because I agree its silly to call it cheap but thats how Apple seems to be treating it.

I think people need to stop thinking of this new lineup as having direct predecessors. The only phone in the new lineup that has any semblance of a predecessor is the iPhone XS. The 6.1 inch LCD doesn't match up to anything previously put out and neither their does the 6.5 inch as it no longer offers more features compared to the smaller model.

The reality is that you should upgrade to a new phone if it offers you something valuable that your current phone doesn't, simple as that. Until we watch the event and get details of the final specs, we can only speculate.

Slime Stack · Sep 12, 2018

Why is their budget phone so big?

Tigress · Sep 12, 2018

Cheebo said:
The Xr is the "budget" phone. The Xs and Xs or whatever they call them are the mainline phone

The Xr is the successor to the SE not the 8/8 Plus.

Is the Xr going to be the same size as the SE? Not that I can afford a new phone but the one that would tempt me would be that rumor of an iphone 5/SE sized phone with a full screen like the 10. That actually made me jealous of not being able to get a new phone (where as I've been fine so far with my 6. First phone I haven't updated every 2 years but without subsidies I just can't justify it plus nothing really even stood out as I really needed it. Hell, I only got the six cause with some trade in offers it was really cheap for me and glad I did otherwise I'd be rocking a 5 now <- my favorite iphone but at this point it would be really outdated and slow).

Deleted member 5666 · Sep 12, 2018

Tigress said:
Is the Xr going to be the same size as the SE? Not that I can afford a new phone but the one that would tempt me would be that rumor of an iphone 5/SE sized phone with a full screen like the 10. That actually made me jealous of not being able to get a new phone (where as I've been fine so far with my 6. First phone I haven't updated every 2 years but without subsidies I just can't justify it plus nothing really even stood out as I really needed it. Hell, I only got the six cause with some trade in offers it was really cheap for me and glad I did otherwise I'd be rocking a 5 now <- my favorite iphone but at this point it would be really outdated and slow).

Nah Apple isn't in the small game anymore by all indicatilns. The LCD screen phone is 6.1 inches.

Jill Sandwich · Sep 12, 2018

shoryukens said:
Why is their budget phone so big?

Market research probably indicated that most people are size queens.

jts · Sep 12, 2018

It's not a budget phone in the same sense that the SE is was.

Just imagine Apple makes the MacBook Pro in 13" and 15", and a MacBook in 14" as a single size compromise. Screen slightly inferior and a few other specs as well, so it's cheaper than the Pros. But not cheap.

Halbrand · Sep 12, 2018

ZOONAMI said:
Just get a Sony Xperia compact. Newest version is under $500. Don't understand you folks who can't switch between apple and Android. I do it every six months typically with Jod. Probably sitting this apple round out though, honestly probably indefinitely if they never bring touch id back.

Switching from an iPhone now for me would mean:

Losing functionality of my Apple Watch
Not having access to my iTunes movies on my phone
Not having access to all my notes
Losing MacBook interactivity with phone for pages, notes, messages, phone calls etc
No AirDrop between my phone and Mac and whatever else

So yeah, doesn't make any sense for me to switch between them. And I actually have switched before, with iPhone 4s > OnePlus X > OnePlus 5 > iPhone X.

Servbot24 · Sep 12, 2018

I'll hold out for the iPhone XMas.

lunarworks · Sep 12, 2018

iFirez said:
It's a damn shame that it doesn't look like we're ever going to get finger print sensors back. I really need a new iPhone though so hopefully what they show in a few hours is really good. Also if we get a bezelless iPad Pro at some point annoyed this year, I'm all in Apple, ya hear me, DO IT!

People want the all-screen front, and under-the-screen fingerprint tech hasn't matured fast enough to a point where it's accurate, secure, and quick enough. Going on the back wasn't going to happen either.

mikehaggar said:
I'm really surprised they are doubling down on the X design/aesthetic (the notch). It seemed the response to it was lukewarm.

The internet complaint chorus was loud, but also a very small minority. The fact that nearly every other manufacturer went the notch route should tell you as much.

JadeGiveTwoRides · Sep 12, 2018

I suspect that the Xr will sell really well, but the compromises are pretty stark. While I'm not a total OLED fanatic there's no doubt that the X has the best display of any iPhone to date (I say iPhone because the 120hz iPads make it a close call) and going back to the single camera and a resolution closer to that of the standard iPhone 6 are not things I'm especially interested in doing.

killertofu · Sep 12, 2018

Shit if there's gonna be a yellow Xr idk if I'll be able to resist lol

Deleted member 33057 · Sep 12, 2018

I'll be in the Apple Store for an appointment while this is going lol. I wonder if they'll be playing it live.

Draper · Sep 12, 2018

No Ipad Pro?

Fuck this noise

Maybe just a big ass iPhone will suffice

The Real Abed · Sep 12, 2018

I'm not expecting any Macs today anyway. That'll hopefully come next month. For now just gimme that new iPhone and Watch. Maybe Watch. Haven't decided yet. Haven't worn a watch since 2006 when I got my first phone. Never had an interest in the Watch, but I've been starting to warm up to the idea again just because of what they can do now that isn't just telling the time. I just hope it doesn't interfere in my work.

Are we just using this thread for reactions or is another one going to be made?

jts · Sep 12, 2018

JadeGiveTwoRides said:
I suspect that the Xr will sell really well, but the compromises are pretty stark. While I'm not a total OLED fanatic there's no doubt that the X has the best display of any iPhone to date (I say iPhone because the 120hz iPads make it a close call) and going back to the single camera and a resolution closer to that of the standard iPhone 6 are not things I'm especially interested in doing.

Apple has a phone for you and it's called the XS, comes in 2 sizes :p

I wonder if people buying the XS will be miffed at the size of the XR being the perfect one they would like to take.

mikehaggar · Sep 12, 2018

lunarworks said:
People want the all-screen front, and under-the-screen fingerprint tech hasn't matured fast enough to a point where it's accurate, secure, and quick enough. Going on the back wasn't going to happen either.

The internet complaint chorus was loud, but also a very small minority. The fact that nearly every other manufacturer went the notch route should tell you as much.

I just assumed the other manufacturers were playing follow the leader with Apple and that it wasn't necessarily an indication that people love the design.

Jill Sandwich · Sep 12, 2018

If the iPhone XS gets ProMotion screens I'll do a backflip.

Relix · Sep 12, 2018

What time is the event? I depend on this to see if I make the switch from android

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