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Fjordson

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,010
Got my 58x's in last Friday from Massdrop and they sound really good. Super comfortable too.

Sennheiser never lets me down tbh
 

Vipu

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,276
My TR-X00 PH finally arrived, they are as amazing and even more than I had imagined

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EnronERA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,056
I think I might give the Beyer T1 a try. I can get a used pair pretty cheap. Well, "cheap".

Edit: Seller accepted my lowball offer. T1 1st gens for 375!

I paid nearly 300 for my DT880s a decade ago, lol.
 
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Darkatomz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
367
CA
Burn in does absolutely nothing but its probably a good thing to do with Focal headphones. Their manufacturing process seems a little strange, there's a decent number of them that have extremely short life spans that fail within in under 100 hours (ballparking figure here). The rest are fine.
lol k. Trolling aside, even if you don't believe in burn in, how much is it going to kill you to not use your cans and play music at very high volume for a handful of days?

Symbols and high hats are slightly metallic, and the cable is annoying, but other than that, the Focal Clears are really quite something. Kind of weird to still be discovering new little elements in music that I've never heard before in songs that I have known forever.
 

CrankyKong

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76
I need help finding some bluetooth headphones that are good for movies.
The Bose QC 35 seem good but apparently have lag, which is a deal breaker.
Are there any comparably priced ones that are better for movies?
 

Haze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,775
Detroit, MI
I'm getting a pair of m1060s this week, probably one of the open-box deals from Monoprice. I have a Dragonfly Black 1.5 for my Audio-Technica MSR7s right now. Would this be fine for driving these headphones or should I look at another DAC/AMP? A magni/modi isn't really in my budget rn. I was looking at either a Schiit Fulla 2 or a Micca Origen 2.

Or any other recommendations.
 

Vipu

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,276
Was just a poor paint job. I returned them. But it left me with the impression that the finish is somewhat fragile.

How long after u got them they started flaking?
Mine seem really good and overall quality feels really good, just scary those 2 small hinges holding the cups so I use them really carefully.
 

Quantum Leap

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,988
California
Are there any "audiophile" level Apple style earbuds that also look good and are durable? They're literally the only type that don't make my ears throb from pain. The most i'm willing to spend is like $100.
 
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EnronERA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,056
Just got the T1 in. lol at the completely unnecessary box they come in.

so far they are noticeably better than my old dt880s, though they are a tad bit harsher. Asus Xonar Essence STX seems to be able to drive them adquately but i want to try one of the more suggested amp pairings for this thing eventually.
 

Haze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,775
Detroit, MI
My M1060s arrived and they sound fantastic with my Dragonfly Black 1.5 but thats with it cranked all the way up through windows. I decided on the Mayflower ARC as I got a refurb for sub$250 with free shipping. Plus it has a mic in with a groundloop in case I ever want to straight up use these with a mod mic.
 

EnronERA

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,056
speaking of modmic i really really dont want to stick mine on my T1. I think i'm going to get some el cheapo single-sided headphone to slap my mm4.0 onto for discord chat purposes.
 

Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,944
So (unsurprisingly) the cheap ass 3.5mm to usb-c adapters I got from ebay don't sound really good.
Are there any good & cheap alternatives? I don't want to spend like $10-20 on just one adapter, I need at least 3 :(
 

Ra

Rap Genius
Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
12,201
Dark Space
Are there any "audiophile" level Apple style earbuds that also look good and are durable? They're literally the only type that don't make my ears throb from pain. The most i'm willing to spend is like $100.
I don't know about "Apple style", but it sounds like you need to find something small that creates no pressure points.

In that vein I recommend looking at the Hifiman RE400. It disappears in my ears.
speaking of modmic i really really dont want to stick mine on my T1. I think i'm going to get some el cheapo single-sided headphone to slap my mm4.0 onto for discord chat purposes.
I feel the same way about sticking my MM to my E-MU Teak. Just can't get myself to do it.

So (unsurprisingly) the cheap ass 3.5mm to usb-c adapters I got from ebay don't sound really good.

Are there any good & cheap alternatives? I don't want to spend like $10-20 on just one adapter, I need at least 3 :(
I've heard it said that the Xiaomi dongle is one of the very best sounding dongles available. It's also dirt cheap.
 

splash wave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,537
Bay Area, CA
Do I need a "nice" 3.5mm cable? I lost the one that came with my Sony noise cancelling headphones, and I find myself struggling to not buy a Sony replacement. Problem is, they cost $50 here in Tokyo.
 

Ra

Rap Genius
Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
12,201
Dark Space
Do I need a "nice" 3.5mm cable? I lost the one that came with my Sony noise cancelling headphones, and I find myself struggling to not buy a Sony replacement. Problem is, they cost $50 here in Tokyo.
You do not want to leap down the rabbit hole of cables making a large difference. I also doubt the Sony cable was made of anything but the most basic of copper wiring that you'll find in a $5 cable anyway.

Buy cheap.
 

Char

Member
Dec 9, 2017
193
I posted this little summary of software EQ solutions in another headphone thread and I figured I'd post it here as well.

If anybody is looking to easily upgrade the sound quality of their headphones when listening on Windows, macOS, or *nix, take a look at utilizing system-wide EQ software.

On the paid, professional spectrum, there's Sonarworks Reference 4 and Sonarworks True-Fi. Sonarworks' philosophy is to make your headphones sound like a good pair of calibrated studio monitors. Skeptical? Well you should be with all the snake oil around in the audio industry. Check out their promo page on their EQ standard for more detailed engineering info. It's considered good and standard practice to calibrate one's speakers when working in a studio and it's about time this tech came to headphones. True-Fi installs itself on Windows and macOS as a system-wide EQ with profiles for a variety of headphones and also includes plenty of tools to tune the sound to your liking. Reference 4 shares all the same EQ profiles but is mainly geared for studio users, so it includes plug-ins that you install for a digital audio workstation. However, it also includes a system-wide EQ for Windows and macOS, albeit with fewer tuning features compared to True-Fi. (If you're a *nix user, you can probably find a way to host the Reference 4 plug-in in a VST host and route all your sound through that.)

On the free, open-source spectrum, there's the AutoEQ library of EQ presets. AutoEQ has a similar goal of making your headphones sound flat and "neutral", but it's relying on less reliable headphone data and calibration curve. You can use the settings from there in conjunction with a system-wide EQ program like Equalizer APO on Windows. On macOS all the free system-wide EQ solutions seem to be either convoluted, buggy, or broken, so you'll have to settle for a paid program like Audio Hijack to utilize advanced EQ plug-ins with the features needed to use the AutoEQ settings. I'm not a big *nix user, but I'm sure there's a good, free, system-wide, parametic EQ with the advanced features needed to utilize these settings. You could also program an external DSP, like miniDSP's HA-DSP, with the AutoEQ settings to take a portable EQ set-up with you on the road.

If your headphones are supported by any of the above solutions, you're bound to enjoy increased sound quality without breaking the bank.

Oh, and if you want to experiment with just about every single virtual surround system set-up out there and you're on Windows, check out HeSuVi in conjunction with Equalizer APO!

P.S. If you are interested in high-end gear and want to see some objective comparisons between equipment, check out Audio Science Review.
 

Vipu

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,276
I posted this little summary of software EQ solutions in another headphone thread and I figured I'd post it here as well.

If anybody is looking to easily upgrade the sound quality of their headphones when listening on Windows, macOS, or *nix, take a look at utilizing system-wide EQ software.

On the paid, professional spectrum, there's Sonarworks Reference 4 and Sonarworks True-Fi. Sonarworks' philosophy is to make your headphones sound like a good pair of calibrated studio monitors. Skeptical? Well you should be with all the snake oil around in the audio industry. Check out their promo page on their EQ standard for more detailed engineering info. It's considered good and standard practice to calibrate one's speakers when working in a studio and it's about time this tech came to headphones. True-Fi installs itself on Windows and macOS as a system-wide EQ with profiles for a variety of headphones and also includes plenty of tools to tune the sound to your liking. Reference 4 shares all the same EQ profiles but is mainly geared for studio users, so it includes plug-ins that you install for a digital audio workstation. However, it also includes a system-wide EQ for Windows and macOS, albeit with fewer tuning features compared to True-Fi. (If you're a *nix user, you can probably find a way to host the Reference 4 plug-in in a VST host and route all your sound through that.)

On the free, open-source spectrum, there's the AutoEQ library of EQ presets. AutoEQ has a similar goal of making your headphones sound flat and "neutral", but it's relying on less reliable headphone data and calibration curve. You can use the settings from there in conjunction with a system-wide EQ program like Equalizer APO on Windows. On macOS all the free system-wide EQ solutions seem to be either convoluted, buggy, or broken, so you'll have to settle for a paid program like Audio Hijack to utilize advanced EQ plug-ins with the features needed to use the AutoEQ settings. I'm not a big *nix user, but I'm sure there's a good, free, system-wide, parametic EQ with the advanced features needed to utilize these settings. You could also program an external DSP, like miniDSP's HA-DSP, with the AutoEQ settings to take a portable EQ set-up with you on the road.

If your headphones are supported by any of the above solutions, you're bound to enjoy increased sound quality without breaking the bank.

Oh, and if you want to experiment with just about every single virtual surround system set-up out there and you're on Windows, check out HeSuVi in conjunction with Equalizer APO!

P.S. If you are interested in high-end gear and want to see some objective comparisons between equipment, check out Audio Science Review.

Thanks for reminding about HeSuVi, had to try that long time ago but forgot, gonna try it today!
 

Sinder

Banned
Jul 24, 2018
7,576
Posted this in the BST thread but figured I'd post it here too - selling my pair of Audeze Mobius, just got them in so they're brand new and never used. PM me if interested!
 

Vipu

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,276
Thanks for reminding about HeSuVi, had to try that long time ago but forgot, gonna try it today!

Adding to this, tried that surround and damn it was amazing, definitely a keeper for games and I recommend everyone to at least try it since its free.
I used that Sennheiser profile for the surround, sounded 1 of the best that I tried.
 

erekiddo

Electric
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,247
I received about $160 in Amazon credit through some Sonos splurging (don't ask), so I'm looking to get a pair of good wireless headphones before a cross country trip I have in 3 weeks. I can't decide between the Sennheiser HD1 or Sennheiser PXC 550. This would be mainly focused towards music, I don't care about call quality.

Can someone chime in? Spend my money!
 

Chittagong

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,793
London, UK
What's up with Schiit this year? Feels like they haven't really done anything new, and Jason has way fewer updates this year. Global component shortage maybe?
 

Gorthaur

Member
Oct 28, 2017
377
Hi,

I need to buy a new pair of headphones. I used before some cheap pair of BT and cable IEM but I want something nicer.

I'd like to spend around 150€ max, maybe 180€ if it's worth it but that's the maximum I can spend. I'm using it only with my iPhone 7 plus at the subway or at work. Noise isolation is preferred but not mandatory (i'm fine with a nice passive noise isolation). I'm not hard at all on gear. I'd like them to be circumaural if possible.

I'd like some closed backs, but I want to use them wirelessly and with a detachable cable (i'd prefer it to be a lightning one but I'm ok with a 3.5mm jack).

My preferred tonal balance is nice bass (I'm not bass-head, I just like them to be present) and nice mediums, but I hate sparkly treble.

I listen to every kind of music but I privilege the likes of Enya, Mike Oldfield, Leonard Cohen, Simon & Garfunkel, OST, sometimes Pop and a bit of rock. I never listen to Hip-hop or rap. I also listen to lots of podcasts and audiobooks, but for that I can continue using my IEMs. I watch a LOT of tv shows so that's important too.

I have used in the past only cheap headphones and iems. Xiaomi Piston v3, the hybrids, Creative Aurvana, and some taotronics that I didn't really like. I like my music to sound airy, like I'm there. I hate piercing trebles as I find them tiring.
 

Aiii

何これ
Member
Oct 24, 2017
8,178
I got the WH-1000XM3's yesterday, and boy are they a significant improvement over the MDR-1000Xs. The build quality is so much better, no longer do my headphones creak at every turn of the head. They are also way more comfortable, I wore them for like 10 hours straight (on a plane) and only at the end was I getting a little fatigue (not even anything major, just a tiny bit of discomfort that is probably due to my right ear being a bit too outward facing :D). The sound quality is amazing, the noise cancelling (which was already excellent) is just ever so slightly better.

They are miles ahead in just overall sound than the Bose QC35II's I was using. The Bose's AAC just sounds utterly shit compared to the sound the LDAC and the built-in upscaling the Sony's produces.

As far as BT ANC headphones in this price range go, there's just no competition anymore. Sony fixed pretty much every issue I had with 1000Xs in this third version. Great set.
 

yagal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,166
I got the WH-1000XM3's yesterday, and boy are they a significant improvement over the MDR-1000Xs. The build quality is so much better, no longer do my headphones creak at every turn of the head. They are also way more comfortable, I wore them for like 10 hours straight (on a plane) and only at the end was I getting a little fatigue (not even anything major, just a tiny bit of discomfort that is probably due to my right ear being a bit too outward facing :D). The sound quality is amazing, the noise cancelling (which was already excellent) is just ever so slightly better.

They are miles ahead in just overall sound than the Bose QC35II's I was using. The Bose's AAC just sounds utterly shit compared to the sound the LDAC and the built-in upscaling the Sony's produces.

As far as BT ANC headphones in this price range go, there's just no competition anymore. Sony fixed pretty much every issue I had with 1000Xs in this third version. Great set.

I have the WH-1000XM2 and fatigue is a big issue. I have large ears like Will Smith :).
The MDR-1AM2's driver, UBC C and the fast charging ... now I wish I had wait few months
 

Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,944
Do you know if the WH1000XM3 are available worldwide? Or did they release them so far only in US?
I'm in Japan atm and thought these could be cheaper than $350 here but they don't exist on any Japanese online store I've seen so far. Would be odd if a Japanese product is not available in Japan..
 
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Zafir

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,005
Do you know if the WH1000XM3 are available worldwide? Or did they release them so far only in Japan?
I'm in Japan atm and thought these could be cheaper than $350 here but they don't exist on any Japanese online store I've seen so far. Would be odd if a Japanese product is not available in Japan..
I saw some people getting them from Amazon.com. On .co.uk it just says delivery in 1-2 months. I think over all the first shipment was relatively small.

That said I already got the XM2 earlier in the year on sale and I'm fairly happy with them (fortunately I have small ears I guess, lol) so I won't be upgrading.
 

Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,944
I saw some people getting them from Amazon.com. On .co.uk it just says delivery in 1-2 months. I think over all the first shipment was relatively small.

That said I already got the XM2 earlier in the year on sale and I'm fairly happy with them (fortunately I have small ears I guess, lol) so I won't be upgrading.
So I just found it on Amazon Japan. It's out on October 6th and is priced at 43k yen (which is almost $390), wtf. The X2 was sold for $285-290!
Dammit I hope price goes down after release
 

erekiddo

Electric
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,247
I ended up getting the PXC 550s, but I may be having a device issue.

Do the headphones ever have the ability to charge to 100%? Everything I've read and heard (through the voice prompts) only shows higher than 80% being the last level.

Mainly, my 5th LED light never stops blinking while charging and it drives me nuts. How do I know when it's done charging?
 
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Aiii

何これ
Member
Oct 24, 2017
8,178
Do you know if the WH1000XM3 are available worldwide? Or did they release them so far only in Japan?
I'm in Japan atm and thought these could be cheaper than $350 here but they don't exist on any Japanese online store I've seen so far. Would be odd if a Japanese product is not available in Japan..
I bought them on the airport in America and see them available all across The Netherlands. So yes, they are.

The M2s were discounted because the 3 is out.
 

Dragoon

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
11,231
Looking for some good wireless headphones that I can use at the gym and for running. $40-80 price range, and I am from the land of Canada. Any suggestions?

I have some I bought but need to use them at work since I have a new Macbook and for whatever fucking reason, they don't allow normal headphones jacks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Blizniak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
394
Looking for some good wireless headphones that I can use at the gym and for running. $40-80 price range, and I am from the land of Canada. Any suggestions?

I have some I bought but need to use them at work since I have a new Macbook and for whatever fucking reason, they don't allow normal headphones jacks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Porta Pro Wireless maybe. Generally you have to pick 2 out of cheap, good, wireless.
 

wilflare

Member
Oct 25, 2017
123
I don't know about "Apple style", but it sounds like you need to find something small that creates no pressure points.

In that vein I recommend looking at the Hifiman RE400. It disappears in my ears.

I feel the same way about sticking my MM to my E-MU Teak. Just can't get myself to do it.


I've heard it said that the Xiaomi dongle is one of the very best sounding dongles available. It's also dirt cheap.

wish they had a black/dark coloured version for the dongle.

and I finally ordered the Sony WH1000XM3 - hope it's a good upgrade over the MX1000
 

signal

Member
Oct 28, 2017
40,183
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ier-m7 and m9 are this expensive? explosive wara. Guess it's better than the $2000 or whatever the IER-Z1R costs.
 

Sunbro83

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,262
Just realised I lost my 1more Triple Drivers at the weekend (which were also annoyingly connected to my iPhone lightning adapter). Before I replace them, anything else that's a go to in that budget range at the moment? (Around £70-80 here in the UK)

Edit: Ugh, just realised I also had comply foam tips attached so that's like a £100 loss ;_;
 
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thuway

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,168
Been out of the headphone game for a while. I own some hd650s and Fidelio x2s. Has anything came in that has shattered the audio world in the.sane price range of 300?
 

Wat

Member
Dec 10, 2017
221
Been out of the headphone game for a while. I own some hd650s and Fidelio x2s. Has anything came in that has shattered the audio world in the.sane price range of 300?
I think the biggest change is that equivalent quality is now available for less (Massdrop editions of everything, 6xx and so on). I've been forever in the same quality class, but recently sold the X2s and went one level up to Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pros. They are lovely and noticeably better than the X2s, but diminishing returns are obviously kicking in. I actually don't see myself buying another traditional pair of headphones. Wireless with zero perceptible latency, high end virtual surround with proper headtracking and external reference point, noise cancelling, it's going to take something like that to make a real difference.