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Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age PC performance thread
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I tried the special K HDR thing, but it doesn't seem to work right for me. Even with HDR enabled in Windows, my TV doesn't actually report that it's been switched to HDR mode in the game itself (although it will if I'm sitting on the desktop). So then the colors just look super wrong and I can't seem to do much to fix them.
Maybe you enabled AA in the game options ? Because it still uses a temporal anti aliasing.
Yeah I fixed it, but the grass was still incredibly aliased even when raising the internal resolution...I think I'll just have to deal with the drawbacks of TAA and go with it
Up the internal res to 200, if your GPU can handle that. SSAAx4 tends to give out clean image.
Have many people backed out of the Draconian options yet? Or sticking with it? I think I'm at the point where I might turn off 'strong monsters'. I've enjoyed the challenge so far and enjoyed bashing my head against an early boss until I got through it but... I'm starting to die a ton and I'm enjoying the game so much that I just want to see what's next. Think I'm at peace with going back to normal mode.
Did you enable the HDR in the Special K settings box and then restart the game? It definitely ticks the HDR on on my TV as well as looking proper.
Nah, I only have "strong monsters" on and I can't imagine going back to play without it. Yes, it slowdowns your story progress but it makes journey from one town to another more meaningful. With default difficulty, you will never have to use strategy for trash mobs and that's just too boring.
So interesting thing about the performance drops in large cities like Heliodor. Kaldaien, the modder doing the HDR mod, says the performance issues in those areas reside entirely in the games lighting.
Kaldaien said:
Hm, I'm not sure then. I'm sorry, it works for me.
Watch this:
I'm pretty sure your Macbook Pro has both a faster CPU (a quad core i7 right?), as well as a faster version of that generation of Intel iGPU.
Edit: by the way, I realize it's not the same game, just giving you a point of reference with a DQ game. In the end, I'm going to say DQXI is even more intensive, and you probably won't be able to run it.
So strong you don't need to ask.
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I was having the same issues until I forced YCbCr422/12-bit in the NVIDIA Control Panel. But that's because I'm on a TV over HDMI.
Ah, yes, I was thinking of that. I always turn my NVCP settings to YUV422 10bit for HDR.
As far as I know max settings are a match for PS4. They didn't add in any graphical bells and whistles beyond higher framerates and resolution. You even gotta force Anisotropic Filtering in your drivers.
Well I was more wondering if I could lower some settings to get "console quality" at full resolution and 60fps, but I guess I'll just keep this 50fps cap in my 970. Thanks.
I'm glad I looked at this thread before I got very far in the game. The settings you can manually add into the config file made the game look significantly better. Especially the motion blur, draw distance and shadow quality. I've got a pretty good PC so it runs super smooth at 1440p for me with all the extras. But I can't understand why we have to manually add this ourselves? Why can't the developers include these options into the game themselves? Japanese PC ports never cease to surprise me.
How do you up the internal resolution, is it resolution quality in game user settings ini? And do you need to set them to read only?
I think it's more likely that adjustments on PS4 are granular rather than being the full "3" on PC (which is UE4 ultra).
But I don't think there's an easy way to compare them. (On PC, 2 is too large a reduction in quality to drop down to unless you have no choice.)
I've seen it running on both on Pro (my copy) and a friends PC and the PS4 Pros grapics are a match for the max settings atleast in the starter town and helidor, the Pro has an agreesive motion blur which blurs everything heavily in motion but atleast the grass shimmer is less of an issue. The PC versions 60fps is great but the drops in Helidor are somewhat annoying on good hardware and the grass shimmer can be offputting. Both versions are really good though it'll be interesting how the PC version runs on the new 2080/2080ti
Ran some Intel iGPU tests. Averaged 19.05fps running loops around Cobblestone at night,, at 720p with everything on 1 or off, whichever was lowest, and at 65% scaling.
If you're following the Special K HDR mod topic over on the Steam forums I'd advise to just stick to refreshing the first post and see if an update is out. People have mentioned Era there multiple times as people in this topic have found out great info for the game and they're sharing it, but alt-right posters are derailing or using slurs to refer to Era anytime it's mentioned. Quite frustrating so I figured I'd give people the heads up to avoid it.
I'll try to post whenever an update for the mod releases.
I'll try to post whenever an update for the mod releases.
It's in the OP, but:
Documents\My Games\DRAGON QUEST XI\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\GameUserSettings.ini
ScreenPercentage=XXX.000000
You don't need to set to read only unless you open the graphics settings again in-game. Might as well set to read only to be safe.
Haha, yeah. I went into the thread to check if there's an update for the mod. Of course it's always one with MAGA hat avatar. Probably a banned member from here at some point.
With the unpacker script for the .pak file available, hopefully it won't be long until we see some additional mods. I'll probably give it a go myself later to find out where the UI textures are stored.
I'm heavily debating it ha. Already died like 5 times and i only just got my first real party member...
I'm in the same boat! Post if you figure this one out because the toggle doesn't get read by my TV either...
Draconian mode hard monsters seemed like an alluring proposition, but I surmised that the developers made the normal monsters easy for a reason. Once I got to the tournament part I realized even with me whooping ever monsters ass that I could find, the game knew how to turn up the heat when it wanted to (my hero was never KOed, but you can bet money I was spamming midheal on nearly every match at some point)
Point is it seems like the emphasis is on story and when they want it to be challenging the game knows what to do and when to do it. Like, I was a little bored in the beginning but after picking up all the party characters in the story the game has picked up
Point is it seems like the emphasis is on story and when they want it to be challenging the game knows what to do and when to do it. Like, I was a little bored in the beginning but after picking up all the party characters in the story the game has picked up
I haven't been able to figure out what's causing my stutter. I tried fullscreen, but that didn't do it. Turning everything to the lowest settings didn't fix it.
JaseC some new information about HDR. Credit goes to Kamus on the DQ steam thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/742120/discussions/0/1735463620103882377/?ctp=18
Kamus5 hours ago
Guys, I think you might find this very useful, if you care about HDR on your 4k TV:
The game can't run in HDR unless the desktop is set to 10 bits. This means that people with 4k televisions using HDMI are limited to either 1080p 60 or 4k at 30Hz.
The frame pacing is actually good, so 4k 30 doesn't look terrible... But anyway, here's a way to run the game at 4k 60 in HDR:
Start the game at 4k 30hz (set the display to 30hz on windows) using 10 bit depth. Then, once the game is started, alt tab and simply switch the refresh rate to 60hz on the windows display settings. Maximize the game again, and it will be running at 4k60 in HDR on 8 bits instead of 10.
So here's the interesting part (well, other than the fact that this works to begin with) I see no noticeable banding doing 4k 60Hz, 8 bit using HDR, and I mean no banding what so ever.
So why run in 10 bit at all, if there's 0 banding issues? I'm wondering if nvidia did something 8 bit HDR on the driver side (maybe they're doing really good dithering?) because when HDR was first supported on nvidia cards, I remember some pretty awful banding on games like shadow warrior 2.
Not the case at all in DQXI, there's no more banding than using 10 bit, and the performance should be higher, since the card won't be so bandwidth starved (I notice no performance difference between HDR at 8 bit, and just regular 8 bit with out HDR, some people have mentioned they have noticed a difference, but they're using 10 bits)
This trick should also work with people with those 2,000 dolar HDR monitors, and instead of being limited to 4k at 98 hz, you could do 8 bit at 144 hz.
TL;DR- It is possible to run HDR using 8 bits, and there's no noticeable banding, so 4k 60 with HDR over HDMI is possible and it should also work with 4k 8 bit at 144hz on those 2,000 dolar monitors.
Thank you, what is a good level to set it to for someone with a 1070, i7-4790K, 16 GB ram and a SSD playing at 1440.
Is this like playing in 4K? Like supersampling?
1080p display? I'd try 150% and see how that treats you. That's 2880x1620. If you have frame rate fluctuations there then lower to 125%, which is just under 1440p. You should don't have trouble hitting 60fps there.
This is all because he's sticking with RGB. If you set to YUV422 you get 10bit 4k 60fps. When you use RGB 8-bit in HDR Windows applies Dithering to it. Dithered 8bit isn't desirable over full 10bit.
The dude making the HDR mode is the same way, he says to use RGB and not to use YUV. I do not understand that opinion. YUV really doesn't look worse than RGB, you only notice it on text and even then you gotta look really closely.
Maybe it's different on a monitor. But if you're using a TV via HDMI; YUV422 10bit for HDR is the way to go.
Yeah I couldn't get HDR to work with that mod either, I'd turn HDR on the desktop, swap the display to YCbCr422 10bit or 12bit(same result with both) and the TV(A Samsung TV if that matters) just wouldn't recognise it as HDR inside the game so you get the over-saturated colours. I even tried the dropping to 30hz to activate RGB 12bit, and that also didn't work.
The game seemed super weird with YCbCr422 too, 4k and 1440p were both greyed out while the display was set to that.
I dunno, I'm not that bothered since my TV isn't that good at HDR anyway, but still figured I'd try for curiosity's sake.
The game seemed super weird with YCbCr422 too, 4k and 1440p were both greyed out while the display was set to that.
I dunno, I'm not that bothered since my TV isn't that good at HDR anyway, but still figured I'd try for curiosity's sake.
My game keeps resetting to 1080p from 4k everytime i launch. Any way to counter this annoy8ng shit.
Yeah, me too (but in my case it's 1440p). Nothing serious, just annoying.
Are you in full screen? Did you do any ini tweaks and set it to read only?
No at 2560x1440, set it to 200% and seems to be running ok. If pasted the AA tweaks in ini Engine, is it best to turn in game AA off? Tried it and it seems to look better.
If you use the TAA tweak and set the in-game AA to anything lower than 3, it'll not be applied and revert back to FXAA.
lol you're running above 4K then. That's gonna chug on a 1070.
Honestly, I'd just leave it at 1440p for the sweet 60fps.