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Till was the fave in Vegas cuz Dana probably put a large bet on Til. Dana looks pissed AF cuz Woodley won.

I'm laughing now about all that "the real fight is the scale" talk about Till as if Woodley was going to be an easy fight for him as long as he made weight.

Move up to 185 so we never have to fucking hear about the weight cut again.

Sinder said:

Till did literally nothing to him and just got completely annihilated. He looked like an amateur in there.

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It's MMA.. He used the first round as a feeling out process and then got caught in the 2nd. He still has great striking and was able to stop Woodley's takedowns.
A rematch could go the same way or go completely different. Either way, Till will be back.

Hell yeah I'm glad for Woodley but man you gotta learn to sell yourself a little bit..

Syder said:

The fights were close but really Woodley was better in both, Thompson has since lost to Till too (who we now know can't hang with TW). Thompson is on the decline, Woodley is still at his peak.

It's kind of irrelevant as Dana will never book that fight again.

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I don't think there's any evidence that Wonderboy is on the decline.

I feel like this went the way everyone wanted Romero vs. Whitaker to go.

Like poetic justice for being an arrogant shitbird for being too big for your division.

Bradbatross said:

MMA math doesn't really work, and doesn't really make sense since we already saw them fight once.

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The math is 2018 - 2014, their trajectories are headed in opposite directions.

Is Colby fighting Usman to see who's next in line or is it just Colby?

Sinder said:

Is Colby fighting Usman to see who's next in line or is it just Colby?

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Dana stated it was Colby but Dana lies so who knows.

Dr.Acula said:

The math is 2018 - 2014, their trajectories are headed in opposite directions.

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Which is why a rematch would be interesting since Rory embarrassed Woodley back in 2014.

Till needs to move up to MW but it's gonna much tougher for him there.

I still can't get over that Andrade KO, Such a crazy performance. Rose vs Andrade is going to be so good.

Snoop Dogg's reaction has me in stitches.

Bradbatross said:

MMA math doesn't really work, and doesn't really make sense since we already saw them fight once.

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It's not MMA math.

It's an observation on career trajectories and comparing common opponents to see who improved what and where.

Did Snoop confuse Till with Covington?

Bradbatross said:

Which is why a rematch would be interesting since Rory embarrassed Woodley back in 2014.

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Bruh, stop. We know you don't like Woodley.
Jesus, people here trying to put competent arguments together and you are over here saying "I mean, anybody can beat anybody" right after this man wins.
Definition of a hater.

BloodHound said:

Bruh, stop. We know you don't like Woodley.
Jesus, people here trying to put competent arguments together and you are over here saying "I mean, anybody can beat anybody" right after this man wins.
Definition of a hater.

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That's MMA though.... Rory dominating Woodley already isn't a reason to believe Rory could beat Woodley again?

And saying "No one's beating Woodley" isn't a competent argument.

Rumblebones said:

Snoop Dogg's reaction has me in stitches.

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Oh my gaaaawwwwd >_<

Rumblebones said:

Snoop Dogg's reaction has me in stitches.



It's not MMA math.

It's an observation on career trajectories and comparing common opponents to see improved what and where.

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It just doesn't really work. Matchups make fights, and Rory and shown that he's a bad matchup for Woodley.

But it doesn't really matter since we won't know how a 2nd fight would go unless it actually happens.

Woodley is top 3 P4P right now

NinjaScooter said:

Did Snoop confuse Till with Covington?

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The "Fuck Donald Trump!" outbursts interspersed between his praise of Woodley would suggest so, lol.

Bradbatross said:

It just doesn't really work. Matchups make fights, and Rory and shown that he's a bad matchup for Woodley.

But it doesn't really matter since we won't know how a 2nd fight would go unless it actually happens.

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MMA math doesn't work.

This isn't that.

Woodley is not the same fighter he was before. He's changed camps, he's actually got a head coach instead of training himself like he had done up until the Rory fight, and he has clearly improved his gameplanning for fights because he's been shutting down everyone since he made those adjustments.

I would not favour Rory in a rematch, and that fight could actually happen given how desperate the UFC are to rid themselves of Woodley. If Rory fights out his contract and the UFC pay him, they got a solid and bankable Canadian star again.

Rumblebones said:

The "Fuck Donald Trump!" outbursts interspersed between his praise of Woodley would suggest so, lol.



MMA math doesn't work.

This isn't that.

Woodley is not the same fighter he was before. He's changed camps, he's actually got a head coach instead of training himself like he had done up until the Rory fight, and he has clearly improved his gameplanning for fights because he's been shutting down everyone since he made those adjustments.

I would not favour Rory in a rematch, and that fight could actually happen given how desperate the UFC are to rid themselves of Woodley. If Rory fights out his contract and the UFC pay him, they got a solid and bankable Canadian star again.

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I do think Woodley has improved, but I don't think Rory has fallen that much. Either way, I'd definitely expect Woodley to have more success in a rematch. I'd have the odds set at about even.

Hopefully that fight happens.

Tyron is amazing and I'm hoping he'll finally get the respect he deserves.

Him smashing Colby is going to be fantastic. He's definitely the modern day WW GOAT. I never would've said this even 1 year ago.

Woodley is honestly one of the most underrated fighters in all of MMA

Rory gets worse every time he fights, the wars he's been in have fucked him up permanently. Woodley meanwhile has become a completely different fighter since their first fight, gets better all the time, and hasn't really taken any damage during his title reign aside from that injury against Maia. Rory would get knocked out if they rematched, it would not be pretty.

Syder said:

Till has some exciting potential match-ups at Middleweight (Adesanya, Costa, Gastelum) but if he struggles that much against an elite wrestler like Woodley, I think he'll get brutally rag-dolled by the MW wrestlers so he's just lucky he'll (probably) never have to fight Yoel.

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Till seemed to hold his own when Woodley shot for the TD and ended up in the clinch. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt at MW.

Woodley saying he's down to fight at MSG Nov. 3rd, didn't take any damage here.

My boy T-Wood. Hell yeah, fight again in November. Beat some ass.

lmao Woodley talking mad shit on Colby right now its hilarious

"You punch his ass in the solar plex"

Dana so upset he left the building and won't be showing up for the presser.

Darren Till in this post-fight presser:

"I just know I'm the better fighter but Tyron was the better man tonight."
"I'm still, mentally, the toughest motherfucker out there."
"I'm laughing because I don't wanna cry."
"It just hurts."
"It fucking hurts."
"Fucking... tonight it hurts."
"I knew he was scared of me."
"I should've warmed up backstage better. There's no excuse of course."
"He wasn't hurting me."

This guy. He got outclassed and couldn't come to terms with it basically.

Rose is still shook. Create an interim title fight between her and Andrade.

See, this is why I have issues with Woodley. He's VERY capable, but there are times where he just doesn't do what I know he can do.

Glad to see Till get smashed. Hate that Dodson lost again and it seems like KK is just done. She hasn't been fighting particularly well, lately.

Also.. ZABIT!

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Class from both. Love this.

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Awesome.

Woodley gets a ton of shit but Maia is a boring one dimensional BJJ guy who can't do anything if he can't get them down and can't strike for shit. Surprised he even made it as far as he did. Wonderboy is also out there point fighting and one of the most vanilla guys on the roster albeit in a charming way. Those guys have proven they are boring as shit against different opposition time and time again. Tyron is at his absolute peak right now and I don't see him being stopped by anyone on the roster right now especially Colby who won't be able to out grapple him easily and has zero standup. I was super impressed tonight and knew it would be a long night for Till when Woodley came out swinging the way he did. Not really sold on Usman. He's looked mediocre and basically just prevented himself from getting taken down by that turd Maia. RDA probably poses the biggest threat stylistically but I can't see him sniffing a title shot anytime soon.

Poor KK :( She just doesn't match up well with Andrade. Karolina usually likes to overwhelm opponents in the clinch but that's a bad idea against the second coming of Wanderlei. Would actually love to see Lil Khabib Suarez fight Andrade in a title eliminator. She looked like a beast tonight and could be the new champion coming up.

Rivera Dodson was boring af. Dodson is showing his age and that receding hairline afro doesn't help.

Zabit was amazing but I thought Davis looked pretty good up until the finish. Chad Mendes is a good fight but I would love to see him against another striker (maybe Moicano or Stephens?). Yair Zabit seems like the Tony Khabib @ 145 and has already lost it's luster. Zabit works him pretty easy anyway.

This Al Hassan guy looked pretty beastly but is already 33 and seemed like a pretty wild brawler during his flurry. Feed Maia to him maybe.

Overall a surprisingly good card. 229 up next!

Just watched it. Gutted for Till, like most Brits in the UFC once it goes to the ground it all goes wrong.

Woodley is the GOAT though.

I looked at the other PPV's this year and yeah, I guess it was the best overall PPV so far.
Not sure what that says about 2018. And maybe ufc 229 will take that crown right away.

Rumblebones said:

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love this

That was probably the best performance of Woodley's title run. He brought the fight to Till and didn't do his usual wait against the cage thing. Looking at the Welterweight division, the only fighters I'd give much of a chance against Woodley are Covington and RDA but there hopes depend on their chins surviving the first couple of rounds.

For Tills part, at least for now I just don't think he's good enough. He doesn't throw enough shots and his defence is not great. He should probably move up in weight for his health and his chin going forward.

Other notes on the card. I think Andrade mauls Rose when they fight. Abdul Razak Alhasan is Melvin Manhoef regenerated. Nearly every John Dodson fight is awful. The Sterling and Zabit submissions were slick as fuck.

PaulKersey said:

See, this is why I have issues with Woodley. He's VERY capable, but there are times where he just doesn't do what I know he can do.

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It was the same thing with Anderson a decade ago. Extraordinary skilled/talented fighters who had a few stinkers in their prime that too many define them by. Sure you're paying for the privilege to watch them and there's a level of expectation that comes along with that, but considering the nature of the sport I still think it's a bit entitled to expect a spectacular performance from bell to bell every time.

Also, Anderson didn't help his image by acting like kind of a weirdo at times just like Woodley isn't doing himself any favors when he acts like a whiny bitch. (even when he makes a valid point)

I am not seeing what some of you see in Covington, these fight will likely be him eating a pull counter KO somewhere in the second, his wrestling is mildly above average and his striking is terrible. He's like a welterweight Chael Sonnen.

I don't think he could beat Usman let alone Woodley.

Riskbreaker said:

I am not seeing what some of you see in Covington, these fight will likely be him eating a pull counter KO somewhere in the second, his wrestling is mildly above average and his striking is terrible. He's like a welterweight Chael Sonnen.

I don't think he could beat Usman let alone Woodley.

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Who's saying Colby can beat Woodley?

Riskbreaker said:

I am not seeing what some of you see in Covington, these fight will likely be him eating a pull counter KO somewhere in the second, his wrestling is mildly above average and his striking is terrible. He's like a welterweight Chael Sonnen.

I don't think he could beat Usman let alone Woodley.

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Haven't seen anyone here saying Colby has a chance