But ok if it's woman beating drug addict RDJ?
But ok if it's woman beating drug addict RDJ?
What on earth
If they offend they are a monsterFor tv productions that do check...they take your ID and social security number and run it through the database. Pretty simple.
I don't think productions are prevented from doing felony/sex offender background checks.
The ones that do so, are employing a bunch of kids and are just avoiding liability issues
It's very common for jobs here in the US to NOT check employees for sex offender registrations in jobs that don't involve kids.
I double majored in sociology/psychology in college. One of my intern studies was at a court-ordered sex offender therapy group (as terms of probation/parole)
You'd be surprised how many of these guys have friends/family who love them.
The attraction to kids/teens is basically a "mental disorder"...almost always can be traced back to some sort of trauma around the age the person is attracted to. It should be treated as a mental disorder and society should be willing to help these people overcome a brain schema they can't control.
This board is so good at being sensitive to all kinds of mental issues people suffer from...but it is accepted to treat these people as irreparable trash.
It's a problematic issue...but it's sooo pervasive and common. It needs to be addressed, not demonized. It's not all psychos and monsters.
The guy in the OP was still in prison? I thought he went through the system years ago?
Nobody would cast RDJ when Shane pushed for him to be in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Sadly we will never know if he did. If he is willing and confident enough to talk to a 14yr old girl and want to meet her for sex. I am sure the guy is confident enough to look up underage abuse porn, which is offendingNobody would cast RDJ when Shane pushed for him to be in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
Lucky this guy didn't get that far.
This may be true, but it's damn close to being a massive jump.Sadly we will never know if he did. If he is willing and confident enough to talk to a 14yr old girl and want to meet her for sex. I am sure the guy is confident enough to look up underage abuse porn, which is offending
It's really not. Criminal justice doesn't need to wait until a crime has been committed to intervene. It's okay to hold someone accountable for soliciting sex from a 14 year old without waiting for them to follow through.This may be true, but it's damn close to being a massive jump.
He molested the girl, he just wasn't convicted of it. Read the link in the OP.
Black issued a statement through his publicist and revealed the Times article informed him of new details regarding Striegel's conviction that he previously didn't know.
"Having read this morning's news reports, it has sadly become clear to me that I was misled by a friend I really wanted to believe was telling me the truth when he described the circumstances of his conviction," Black's new statement reads. "I believe strongly in giving people second chances – but sometimes you discover that chance is not as warranted as you may have hoped."
"After learning more about the affidavit, transcripts and additional details surrounding Steve Striegel's sentence, I am deeply disappointed in myself," the director continued. "I apologize to all of those, past and present, I've let down by having Steve around them without giving them a voice in the decision."
Genuine question, are people in this thread against rehabilitation programs that aim to get prisoners back into the work force? This isn't a major role
Your argument might hold slightly more water if Shane Black had been more forthcoming in disclosing his friend's crime and made sure that people were ok with it instead of being all hush-hush about it and keeping everyone, even the studio, in the dark.He was convicted and paid for his crime. I don't see the connection to acting in an action movie with other adults.
I take it back. Fuck this guy forever. Yikes indeed.But a March 2009 arrest warrant affidavit — which identifies the 14-year-old only as "Jane Doe" — alleges that physical contact included "kissing, touching Doe's breast over her clothing, rubbing her legs and stroking her neck" on several occasions.
In one email message, Striegel told the girl that there was no one in the world he would rather have sex with. "I will be VERY honest: There's no question that it's you. None. Hope that doesn't totally freak you out, and just because it's what I want, and what you want, doesn't mean it's the right thing."
In other correspondence, he described his sexual preferences in graphic detail, including his favorite intercourse position and intimate grooming practices.
"EVERY thing you say turns me on!!" he wrote to Doe. "I love that it rocked you when I pulled your hair that time."
Yikes, to say the least.
What he was charged with:
CONTACTING MINOR WITH INTENT TO COMMIT A SPECIFIED SEX OFFENSE
https://www.shouselaw.com/contact-minor-felony.html
So Shane Black wants me to believe that he decided to stay friends with a man who had been arrested and sent to jail for attempting to solicit sex from a minor for years without learning the details of the case? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. If you are going to lie at least make it fucking believable.
So Shane Black wants me to believe that he decided to stay friends with a man who had been arrested and sent to jail for attempting to solicit sex from a minor for years without learning the details of the case? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. If you are going to lie at least make it fucking believable.
I mean, he's saying his friend lied to him about it.So Shane Black wants me to believe that he decided to stay friends with a man who had been arrested and sent to jail for attempting to solicit sex from a minor for years without learning the details of the case? Get the fuck out of here with that shit. If you are going to lie at least make it fucking believable.
And if nobody told you the situation? would you have gone and hunted it down? Because that's very different.Lol, yeah. There's a guy I worked with who ended up being a registered sex offender (statutory: he was 17, she was 16 parental problems etc). I wasn't even cordial with him and couldn't stand him but he was the boyfriend of a manager and despite them not outright telling their employees everyone knew in the matter of a week of meeting him the story. I have a very hard time believing Shane wouldn't know the details. Sounds more like he just doesn't care.
I totally misread thatHe molested the girl, he just wasn't convicted of it. Read the link in the OP.
But a March 2009 arrest warrant affidavit — which identifies the 14-year-old only as "Jane Doe" — alleges that physical contact included "kissing, touching Doe's breast over her clothing, rubbing her legs and stroking her neck" on several occasions.
In one email message, Striegel told the girl that there was no one in the world he would rather have sex with. "I will be VERY honest: There's no question that it's you. None. Hope that doesn't totally freak you out, and just because it's what I want, and what you want, doesn't mean it's the right thing."
In other correspondence, he described his sexual preferences in graphic detail, including his favorite intercourse position and intimate grooming practices.
"EVERY thing you say turns me on!!" he wrote to Doe. "I love that it rocked you when I pulled your hair that time."
Yikes, to say the least.
What he was charged with:
CONTACTING MINOR WITH INTENT TO COMMIT A SPECIFIED SEX OFFENSE
https://www.shouselaw.com/contact-minor-felony.html
It sounded like you were posing a general question. But if you're going to put all of those caveats on it then yea it's weird.When the job involves your character being repeat hit on by the person in question, I would think it means quite a bit. The parallels are just too cringeworthy to ignore. Why would you want to put yourself in the middle of a situation like that, as a female professional who already has to deal with harassment online?
For me, I work with kids. That's something I need to know.
I mean, he's saying his friend lied to him about it.
I dunno, I've never had a friend who was charged with anything like that, but I can imagine if someone said they had to deal with some stupid court thing because of bla bla and made it sound believable that I wouldn't go hunting through court records to disprove them.
Not excusing what he did, it's shitty, but I don't think it sounds unbelievable at all.
And if nobody told you the situation? would you have gone and hunted it down? Because that's very different.
I guess if you want to defend a pedophile one way to do it is drop into a thread and mischaracterize everyone's argument as being against rehabilitation programs wholesale.
This post is like a crash course in disingenuous bullshit.
Like... now is not the time to be petty and ghost your actor about their concerns about this shit.Olivia Munn Says Fox Didn't Return Her Call Initially After Reporting 'Predator' Sex Offender
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/...-sex-offender-exclusive-interview-1202933315/
I guess what I'm asking is: at what point is it ok for this guy to take a job?
people bringing up "time served!" and "legal rehabilitation!" when it comes to offending pedophiles are making my eye twitch. The law is the only reason worthless flesh piles like this bastard don't have their skin peeled off slowly. That is as far as I'm willing to grant them, I'm sure as fuck not doing a single thing more than that. To think people advocate 'giving them a chance', holy fuck.
I used to think the same way for many years about pedophiles, even worse actually. I was sexually abused as a child for over 2 years by a family friend and I held on to a lot of that anger growing up, even well after the person who did it to me was arrested (ironically for an unrelated crime). It wasn't until I ended up doing a therapy in my late teens that I moved past that anger and tried see the potential for forgiveness, at least for the ones that are actually sorry for what they did and even that took a long time.
Theres no doubting they did an fucking awful thing and deserved to go to jail, but long as they realize they hurt someone immensely, are repentant, and won't reoffend, I don't think shitting on them more is going to serve any purpose, may just make things worse. Same with trying to take away their jobs after release (As long as it doesn't have to do with kids).
I know it's not a popular view, and I can hear the pedo defence jokes already but I've had a while to think about this stuff due to circumstances and it's what I've come to. Granted, I can still understand the opposite view of just saying screw them all, especially from someone that was abused as well.
she has not actually heard directly from Black, her co-stars, or the studio since speaking on the record to the Times about her efforts to have the scene cut and the "unsettling" realization that Black had cast Striegel without disclosing his history. At the premiere, Munn said that her co-stars—including Boyd Holbrook, Trevante Rhodes, and Keegan-Michael Key—all stood to give Black an ovation when the film ended. "I looked back and I see the guys standing up, and I was just confused, because I hadn't heard from them during the day. Everybody else was sitting down—it wasn't like this massive standing ovation for him. I felt it was still appropriate to clap and cheer, but to actually make that gesture to stand up, especially in this moment . . . and privately I knew that no one reached out to me to say, 'Are you O.K.?' It did feel bad."
I'm now firmly in the fuck Shane Black camp, the rest can fuck also fuck off.As their press duties have continued, Munn said, many of her co-stars have canceled scheduled interviews with her; another, she said, walked out of an interview when the issue of the cut scene came up. When Munn decided to give a comment to the Times, she told Smith, she reached out to all of her co-stars privately to encourage then to make statements of their own. "I wanted them to not be blindsided the way I was blindsided, and I encouraged them to put out a statement once the L.A. Timesreached out to us," Munn said. "I was surprised that none of them did. Again that's their prerogative. Right now the reality is that there will be people who wear Time's Up pins and say they support Time's Up, [but] there will be people in Time's Up who aren't really down with the cause."
people bringing up "time served!" and "legal rehabilitation!" when it comes to offending pedophiles are making my eye twitch. The law is the only reason worthless flesh piles like this bastard don't have their skin peeled off slowly. That is as far as I'm willing to grant them, I'm sure as fuck not doing a single thing more than that. To think people advocate 'giving them a chance', holy fuck.