Still absolutely hate the new look. Why even call this Streets of Rage? Just to annoy me?
Because I love it and thats' good enough.
Still absolutely hate the new look. Why even call this Streets of Rage? Just to annoy me?
Ha ha, that's fair, it's not just the beard though, the hair, the shirt, slightly ripped jeans at the bottom. He just looks pretty scruffy all around if that helps.As a man with a beard, the amount of "beard = hobo/homeless" comments in this thread are unsettling.
Because Blaze had a design that still looks good and flashy today while Axel didn't.
Axel's old design is very simple and run of the mill.
But sure is weird one having drastic changes and the other being barely touched (and what a surprise who's that character, c'mon it can't be more transparent).
uuhh Blaze design is as simple as it gets. Its fanservice girl #120.
I mean I don't care if they keep the designs or change them, but sure is weird one having drastic changes and the other being barely touched (and what a surprise who's the character that is almost the same! who could have guessed..)
In all brutal honestly, I don't like Axel's SOR4 design.
Why the heck does he have a flannel shirt tied around his waist? Maybe it's "strategic butt covering". Try as I might, I can't think of any other reason why he'd own a flannel shirt.
The beard doesn't work at all. Sorry. That look might have done wonders for Ryu, but Axel's face is way too perfect to be covered up. Also it makes him look like he aged 20 years.
His frame looks altogether bulky and a little too wide. I think he'd probably look better without the jacket. Instead of yellow, the stripe on his gloves should be white.
For whatever reason, Axel is wearing the exact same shoes as he did in SOR1/SOR3. I guess it wouldn't be that big a deal if the collars weren't ludicrously large. They look like funnels designed to catch rain water.
Also the pants are just awful. Did he find those in a dumpster? Dude needs a new pair with all of the seams intact. Nobody wants to look at that bit of exposed skin between his pants and shoes.
In short, the man looks like he gave up. Maybe the bad ending in SOR3 is canon. Axel failed to save the city, so now he's a broken vagrant.
What's transparent, exactly? That they gave her the classic design?
Wouldn't it be more 'transparent' if they gave her a new over sexualized design and phoned in Axel with barely any work or thought put into him?
I'd rather have Adam back than Skate tbh. Skate got two games already.
Sorry, I can't read 35 pages right now and have limited access to to being on mobile:
I'm fucking psyched reading this but has there been a hands-on from anyone on how this actually plays? It took me a few views of the OP's video to get used to the art. First look = yeah, no... Later = yeah, sure, why not!
I don't think this game is set that much later on than the originals. The brief look at the office environment shows crt monitors and old style corded phones, I genuinely think it's still in the 90's. Axel hasn't been aged up beyond just having a beard, it could literally just be a few months after the third game. The art style is just more exaggerated with body proportions, Axel's a lot more muscular and squat, and Blaze is more "thicc". For what it's worth, I'd much prefer Blaze to be more svelte and elegant like the previous games too. I think the loss of her stockings accentuates just how much leg she's showing as well.I don't know, he definitely looks bigger around the midriff to me. My point is, Axel looks different than he did in the Nineties, and Blaze does not. I really don't know what their reason is for updating one character's design and not another.
Yep that's definitely what I said.Because every woman out there covers themselves up whenever they go outside?
Because it's an archaic character design that relies on titillation for the sake of objectifying a woman. You'd think that within the past ~5 years of increased awareness around women and women's rights they might at least put her in some leggings or an entire shirt.
MUH ARTIST INTENTNo way. Her look is iconic. You just cannot change characters like Street Fighter's Cammy even if they are stuck in a different era.
Ayano Koshiro ought to be ashamed of herself. I wish I could buy you a plane ticket to go scream this in her face.
Oh no you caught me, I always forget that women are excused from poorly representing their own gender.Ayano Koshiro ought to be ashamed of herself. I wish I could buy you a plane ticket to go scream this in her face.
I don't like either characters designs for different reasons. Nothing "funny" about that. Things don't have to be either or, not sure what picture you are trying to paint about people's opinions here to be honest.All these comments about loving Blaze before but all of a sudden needing her to get a redesign are so weird.
Also funny how they complain about not liking Axel's new design at the same time.
Like how does that give confidence that you will like the new Blaze design?
Oh no, I wasn't being facetious. I would genuinely like to see you punch her in the stomach so hard she pukes. I hate women and love violence, just like the woman who designed Streets of Rage 2.Oh no you caught me, I always forget that women are excused from poorly representing their own gender.
Christ, is that needed?Yep that's definitely what I said.
Because it's an archaic character design that relies on titillation for the sake of objectifying a woman. You'd think that within the past ~5 years of increased awareness around women and women's rights they might at least put her in some leggings or an entire shirt.
MUH ARTIST INTENT
Yep that's definitely what I said.
Because it's an archaic character design that relies on titillation for the sake of objectifying a woman. You'd think that within the past ~5 years of increased awareness around women and women's rights they might at least put her in some leggings or an entire shirt.
MUH ARTIST INTENT
Kind of needed yeah. When the post responded too was just "nothing can be changed because that's how they were designed 20+ years ago" is a simple fallacy anyway. Changing things can go wrong (Axel imo here) but equally can be bad leaving them as they are. Sometimes old designs just don't translate going forward and while Blaze isn't that terrible compared with some I feel her newer design could be better reflecting the current climate personally.Christ, is that needed?
In any event, they likely consulted Ayano Koshiro on Blaze's design. I am certain this is what she would want.
Blaze's design is about the only thing I like of what I've seen so far. She's badass and hot as always, versus Axel, whom looks like he's literally been living on the streets. I also don't agree with aging up any characters because it's "realistic" ether, especially when there's no timeline. I even hope they keep Skate as a kid too.
Well as an art student I tend to draw all of my female characters voluptuously and in attire that is somewhat revealing, why? Because I just like it, I find beauty in the female form, sue me.
You tell me.Christ, is that needed?
In any event, they likely consulted Ayano Koshiro on Blaze's design. I am certain this is what she would want.
Hey mate you want to show me where I wrote anything about being "fucking ashamed" in my original post you're all losing your minds over? It's an archaic, tone-deaf design. I don't care who designed it or what the "intent" of her being in a crop-top and mini-skirt is; it's a bad design in 2018.
I mean, Mona and Lisa were just recolored Blaze.To start a contrarian debate, SoA already tried toning down Blaze in the US version of SOR3 and it is easy to argue that it backfired.
Also: There is actually way more point to Blaze being sexy than just for the heck of it, and it primarily goes back to SOR1's look and thematics - the player characters not only blend in with the "late night street life" aesthetic, but also blend in with their enemies. If you swapped the player/enemy characters around, it would be difficult for an outside observer to know the difference. That is part of why people consider the game's "bad ending" where you DO become the bad guy so effective. It would not have worked nearly as well if Blaze looked stylistically out of place compared to the dominatrix-with-whip archtypes she was kicking the butt of. Old lady or nerdy glasses teenager girl becoming a crime lord? While a narrative-driven genre might be able to pull that off, i doubt an arcade brawler could.
Sure, more power to you but you aren't designing the characters so why would we care?Well as an art student I tend to draw all of my female characters voluptuously and in attire that is somewhat revealing, why? Because I just like it, I find beauty in the female form, sue me.
Oh no you caught me, I always forget that women are excused from poorly representing their own gender.
Ah the old "go play something else".It's freedom of expression. If you don't like it, go play something else. Why isn't Axel a fat mess? He's burly and built like a brick shit house. Is that wrong too?
Yeah I don't intend to purchase this game; but as a long-time fan of this series and franchise (despite how well some of it's aspects haven't aged) I'm entitled to express an opinion about it. Thx tho.It's freedom of expression. If you don't like it, go play something else. Why isn't Axel a fat mess? He's burly and built like a brick shit house. Is that wrong too?
People would be begging for leggings if Blaze were permitted Axel's laid-back approach to grooming.It's freedom of expression. If you don't like it, go play something else. Why isn't Axel a fat mess? He's burly and built like a brick shit house. Is that wrong too?
I do. His lost soul probably just goes from one bare knuckle fight to the next.
Yuzo Kushiro's own sisterOh no, I wasn't being facetious. I would genuinely like to see you punch her in the stomach so hard she pukes. I hate women and love violence, just like the woman who designed Streets of Rage 2.
I appreciate that, I mean this design doesn't make me mad or anything just for my personal view Blaze could still be sexy, in colour and dressed to fight with pretty minimal design changes. She could be updated without changing her core if you know what I mean?My two cents: I'm all for updating old, outdated sexualized designs and I understand the complaints, but in Blaze's case it works for me because it's an intentional throwback to the over the top, sexy artstyle of the originals. If the game was going for a modern, serious look the lack of pants would bother me a lot more.
Also I don't think "less sexualized designs" should mean "no design is allowed to look like this again, ever" but I'm just a guy so idk.
I think her design wouldn't be nearly as uh, out there if her proportions were a bit more modest. I mean, look at the trailer and how it focuses on her butt and cleavage, right after Axel is just shown as a badass.I don't mind Blaze's design here, but I think something more in line with her Streets of Rage 1 design might have gone over a bit better. Her Bare Knuckle mobile design for example, was pretty much the SoR1 outfit with black leggings, IIRC.
Sure, more power to you but you aren't designing the characters so why would we care?