Not comparable because it's multiplatform. I'd be impressed if the PS4 version matched series highs though.
Not comparable because it's multiplatform. I'd be impressed if the PS4 version matched series highs though.
This point makes no sense.Not comparable because it's multiplatform. I'd be impressed if the PS4 version matched series highs though.
It came out the same day as the PS2 launch lolIt released at the tail end of the PS1 so it shouldn't be a surprise. I think the PS2 was either out or just about to release.
You know FFVII was the most expensive game ever at its time and is still in the all-time Top 10 when considering inflation, right? FF since then always has been AAA and trying to be cutting edge. It's in the series' DNA for over 20 years now.
What even is your proposal?
I'm sorry but it seems to me like that's exactly what you're implying. You want them to ship these games faster and there's simply no way to do that these days without sacrifices.
Basing it from here: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_Square-Enix_games
1. Final Fantasy VII (13,108,000)
2. Final Fantasy XIV (10,903,000)
3. Final Fantasy X (10,571,400)
4. Final Fantasy VI (10,177,600)
5. Final Fantasy VIII (8,870,000)
6. Final Fantasy XV (8,100,000)
7. Final Fantasy XIII (7,700,000)
8. Final Fantasy XII (7,200,000)
9. Final Fantasy X-2 (5,876,000)
10. Final Fantasy IX (5,731,000)
11. Final Fantasy IV (5,389,000)
12. Final Fantasy I (4,903,000)
13. Final Fantasy III (4,368,300)
14. Final Fantasy V (3,966,500)
15. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (3,600,000)
8 millions is a lot, but considering the pedigree of FF and the huge install bases (PC, XBOX and PC), it it weird to me that MHW sold more copies than a main line FF.
Get Nomura to make another TWEWY or KH, but pls keep him away from FF.
Monster Hunter i think blew up being a multiplayer focus titled on a system people actually play multiplayer oriented games on.8 millions is a lot, but considering the pedigree of FF and the huge install bases (PC, XBOX and PC), it it weird to me that MHW sold more copies than a main line FF.
Get Nomura to make another TWEWY or KH, but pls keep him away from FF.
Agreed. There is growth over XIII but that certainly doesn't mean Square should or will settle. Their goal has to be finding a way to maintain their fan base while also working to bring in new players. Monster Hunter World of course has strong multiplayer elements. You do have to wonder whether Comrades DLC from FFXV might be a hint at least that Square might expand the series by including multiplayer content in future entries even if it isn't necessarily the 'meat' for the original fan base. In fact, much of the stuff added to XV (events, hunts, Multiplayer) does feel like Square really wanted a KPI (whether that be number of hours played, player drop off, number of hunts completed, sales of Comrades etc.)for how each of these elements were engaged with by players and whether they make sense going forward.This is still good enough to place it as the second-best FF ever released numbers-wise, keep in mind. The flip side of that is this: the gaming audience has in general grown and expanded since the days of FF7, the series' best-selling entry. Franchises that are as comparatively big now as FF7 was in the 90s sell a fair amount more than FF7 did at the time, so the phenomenon is that FF isn't growing its audience as games as a medium grow; it's more maintaining. That'll be SE's next goal - to see growth beyond FF7 numbers, not just clawing back the losses since then. That'll be the goal for 16. 15 has done a lot to reverse the fortunes - consider that it's almost sold as much now as the entire FF13 trilogy. But FF isn't really seeing growth beyond where the series has been historically, whereas MHW was new and exciting to a whole new audience, a complete unknown. Of course it jumped so dramatically.
Those sales for IX are probably really accurate actually. It is the top five where it is all wonky where they added rereleases to X and VI.Tell me that it's because FF9 sold like twice the number that appears there. Please tell me that.
That list is mostly wrong anyway.
If you're looking at the Wikia sales, VI only sold half of that lol.Those FFVI and FFX numbers :feelsgoodman:
It came out the same day as the PS2 launch lol
:feelsbadman:If you're looking at the Wikia sales, appeantly VI only sold half if that lol.
They tacked on the ones classic sales.
Let me get this straight. You're suggesting spending less on graphics and putting a mainline entry on a handheld console... and yet you're insisting that this is not lacking ambition?They should not stop being ambitous. Being abitious is not equal to producing the best graphics or producing something that is open world, because that is what you are implying. You can be ambitious by - like I said - re-shifting your focus on other things: story, presentation, characters, gameplay, lenght, replayablitly and what not.
Imagine in another reality, Final Fantasy XV was released only on Handhelds. Let's say, 3DS and VITA. The budget to develop would have been lower than the 10 year dev cicle of a console Final Fantasy XV. No pressure to spend everything on graphics. They could've gone all the way out and produced a very well looking game, relative to the hardware, still, and still sold millions of copies in a shorter amount of time and so on.
So all in all, I think the move to inject western industry trends in the mainline Final Fantasy series was a mistake.
Stop. I never said that. Never implied that. You're putting words in my mouth and arguing against yourself here.My proposal for the Final Fantasy series is therefore: going back to their roots. Now your argument might be, that no one wants to play a Final Fantasy game in the style of Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX or X on "modern home consoles".
First of all, I think that's bullshit. Second of all, if that were a legitimate concern, then why not change platforms entirely? Dragon Quest 9 was a handheld game that sold 5.3 million copies (maybe even more), despite the Dragon Quest franchise being way less popular in the west than Final Fantasy.
I'm kind of glad it did better than 13.Basing it from here: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_Square-Enix_games
1. Final Fantasy VII (13,108,000)
2. Final Fantasy XIV (10,903,000)
3. Final Fantasy X (10,571,400)
4. Final Fantasy VI (10,177,600)
5. Final Fantasy VIII (8,870,000)
6. Final Fantasy XV (8,100,000)
7. Final Fantasy XIII (7,700,000)
8. Final Fantasy XII (7,200,000)
9. Final Fantasy X-2 (5,876,000)
10. Final Fantasy IX (5,731,000)
11. Final Fantasy IV (5,389,000)
12. Final Fantasy I (4,903,000)
13. Final Fantasy III (4,368,300)
14. Final Fantasy V (3,966,500)
15. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (3,600,000)
Tell me that it's because FF9 sold like twice the number that appears there. Please tell me that.
Nah FF9 characters were weak.
Nah FFXV simply couldn't get MHW numbers even if it weren't by Nomura/Tabata. You're forgetting that one is a multiplayer focused game while the other is a single player JRPG. Pretty big difference in genre alone. Then account for the fact that Japan is rabbid over Monster Hunter and you have your answer as to why it performed better. Not many series hold a candle to MH in Japan, not even FF.8 millions is a lot, but considering the pedigree of FF and the huge install bases (PC, XBOX and PC), it it weird to me that MHW sold more copies than a main line FF.
Get Nomura to make another TWEWY or KH, but pls keep him away from FF.
mhm. It's past 30 million isn't it? I recall a 30 million users mega sale not too long ago.
CESA which got the sell in data from Square.
And I haven't bought my Windows Edition nor my Royal Edition yet!
(waiting for the super ultimate edition that includes the new upcoming DLC chapters as well)
Excellent result :)
Deserves to sell even over 10 million copies. As well as being one of the best Final Fantasy, it is also one of the wonderful masterpieces of this generation.
(which made me thrill like, and even more, of the Final Fantasy of the PS1 era [FF VII,VIII,IX])
And I wish Tabata, and her team, a wonderful future.
Final Fantasy XV is a real, and a very great and beautiful, Final Fantasy.
Do we know how many copies of FFXV that they managed to sell on PC?
In February this year before the PC version came out it was at 7.1M, now at 8.1M. In July FFXV on Steam was at 489,872 and since then it surely has added a few hundreds of thousands. I think the Royal Edition is a smaller piece of that million, so the PC version should easily pass at least a million in the next months with upcoming Black Friday/Halloween/Holiday/Winter sales. Then the more sophisticated official mod tools are coming in Fall too which include a level editor etc., which could possibly give it a push and longer legs if it catches on in the modding scene. So yeah, it might take another 1-2 years, but I think 2M could be possible.
See above, it was around 500K on Steam two months ago. Probably added a few Ks since.Do we know how many copies of FFXV that they managed to sell on PC?